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26 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

We'd potentially have to move McDonald down back. 

He was moved there when they subbed May off so it's definitely in the back of the coaches mind.

He only moved there when Lever was taken off in the last to rest. 
Tmac down back is last resort stuff. 
 

This is the grand final. We have worked all year to have a settled team and game plan. And now people want to throw random positional moves? No chance. 

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    50 minutes ago, Jaded said:

    This is the grand final. We have worked all year to have a settled team and game plan. And now people want to throw random positional moves? No chance. 

    So what you're saying is there's a chance we borrow Frosty for a week from the Hawks to replace May?

    I like it. 😁:laugh:

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    1 hour ago, Jaded said:

    He only moved there when Lever was taken off in the last to rest. 
    Tmac down back is last resort stuff. 
     

    This is the grand final. We have worked all year to have a settled team and game plan. And now people want to throw random positional moves? No chance. 

    You've missed the point of the post.

    This is a suggestion only if for some unfortunate reason May doesn't get up with his Hammy.

    If May does his hammy say 2nd quarter of the AFL grand final then you'd be kidding yourself if the coaches don't seriously consider moving McDonald back. It would leave us a tall short, especially coming up against English, Schache and Naughton who are all good in the air and can all take good contested marks.

    They did it against North Melbourne when Tomlinson went down and again over the weekend. So yeah they'll potentially consider it if May does go down.

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    3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    You've missed the point of the post.

    This is a suggestion only if for some unfortunate reason May doesn't get up with his Hammy.

    If May does his hammy say 2nd quarter of the AFL grand final then you'd be kidding yourself if the coaches don't seriously consider moving McDonald back. It would leave us a tall short, especially coming up against English, Schache and Naughton who are all good in the air and can all take good contested marks.

    They did it against North Melbourne when Tomlinson went down and again over the weekend. So yeah they'll potentially consider it if May does go down.

    Spot on. They absolutely will

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    2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    We'd potentially have to move McDonald down back. 

    He was moved there when they subbed May off so it's definitely in the back of the coaches mind.

    I just don't trust him, mate. His kicking between the arcs is still very hit and miss.

    14 minutes ago, A F said:

    I just don't trust him, mate. His kicking between the arcs is still very hit and miss.

    Who are our other potential options?

    Barring Stephen May not getting up I think No Change, Hunty is really stiff. If May doesn’t get up I would feel really exposed down back and we don’t have a like for like replacement?

    Im sure the coaching team already have this covered so I am not going to fret about it.!!!

     
    3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Who are our other potential options?

    I'd be tempted to play Smith as medi sub. Then if a forward or a back goes down he could step in. Not a great option though, I'll admit. I don't trust either of them.

    We may actually not need the extra tall if May goes down. Petty to Naughton, Lever on Schache or even Hibbo on Schache or Gawn in slow plays.

    Not ideal of course, but you roll with the punches.

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    5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Who are our other potential options?

    The option would be to chuck Gawn down back and if May is anything other than 100% going in, have a defender as the sub. 
    Tmac will only go down back in a real emergency. He didn’t go back on Friday night until the very last quarter when they pulled Lever off. May was off halfway through the third and we adjusted. Tmac was still forward. And yes of course it helped that were never going to lose at that point. 
    But Tmac down back would be last resort. We would take a defender as the sub in either Smith or Hunt if we are worried about May blowing up. 
     

    Btw Channel 7 reporter the club hasn’t even bothered with scans for May. He must have pulled up well. 


    2 minutes ago, A F said:

    I'd be tempted to play Smith as medi sub. Then if a forward or a back goes down he could step in. Not a great option though, I'll admit. I don't trust either of them.

    We may actually not need the extra tall if May goes down. Petty to Naughton, Lever on Schache or even Hibbo on Schache or Gawn in slow plays.

    Not ideal of course, but you roll with the punches.

    I also agree with this. We don’t need an extra tall against the Dogs. In fact I would put Petty on Naughton (not sure May has the athleticism to go with him) and have May take Schace so he can’t try to take out Lever. Which of course will mean Lever can chop off Naughton. 
    Unsure who takes Weightman. I would have Rivers on Hannan. Hibbo on Weightman is a serious worry. Hunt? 

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    11 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

    If fit I would bring in Joel Smith to play on Naughton.  He is the only one with the athleticism to go with him.  It's a perfect match up   I would bring him in for Hibberd who has been solid but he is clearly slowing down and is now limited athletically.

    Absolutely agree. Smith is the perfect matchup for Naughton. 

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    1 hour ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

    Absolutely agree. Smith is the perfect matchup for Naughton. 

    I think you'll find that Naughton is a bit  like TMac and Weid - needs a clear run at it to cause damage in the air.  From memory May has been very effective at stopping him getting a run at it in our previous matches.  I rate Smith but he's not the right one for Naughton

    9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    You've missed the point of the post.

    This is a suggestion only if for some unfortunate reason May doesn't get up with his Hammy.

    If May does his hammy say 2nd quarter of the AFL grand final then you'd be kidding yourself if the coaches don't seriously consider moving McDonald back. It would leave us a tall short, especially coming up against English, Schache and Naughton who are all good in the air and can all take good contested marks.

    They did it against North Melbourne when Tomlinson went down and again over the weekend. So yeah they'll potentially consider it if May does go down.

    Yes in which case we might need some forward class...just in case.MELKSHAM?? as potential medi sub? I think it all depends on the integrity or not of Mays hammy. Would still be looking to play Hunt for his run.

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    11 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    Yes in which case we might need some forward class...just in case.MELKSHAM?? as potential medi sub? I think it all depends on the integrity or not of Mays hammy. Would still be looking to play Hunt for his run.

    Been also thinking where is Melksham out of all this but I think is the ideal option.

    His speed could really become important if needed when he's fresh compared to others in the game.

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    Petty on Naughton ...

    Hibberd on Hannan. (Weightman would be too quick for Hibbo.)

    Probably Rivers on Weightman? Or Bowey?

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    @bingers I think bowey would be a better match up for weightman the little *censored* he can go with him and can match the pace, I am just worried about Weightman's aerial ability, I am pretty sure May said in an interview earlier this year that he finds weightman was the hardest player for him to match up on.

    29 minutes ago, bingers said:

    Petty on Naughton ...

    Hibberd on Hannan. (Weightman would be too quick for Hibbo.)

    Probably Rivers on Weightman? Or Bowey?

    Bowey!! Yes please

     

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    Hey fellow dees

    any chance someone could send me a priority 2 bar code please. I have mine but I would like my partner to come and so if anyone if feeling Generous this morning could you please send me a code. It's exciting times for us and it sucks you guys can't travel over 😞 

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    Assuming May is 100% fit - he plays on Naughton. He's beaten him before and will do it again. Wouldn't consider bringing in Smith to play on Naughton and would only consider Petty as a backup. Petty goes to English, Hibberd to Hannan, Rivers to Weightman, Lever to Schache and Salem and Bowey dominate the ground balls. I'm a big fan of Hunt but can't see them dropping any of the back 7. Would like Hunt as sub though. 

    14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    We'd potentially have to move McDonald down back. 

    He was moved there when they subbed May off so it's definitely in the back of the coaches mind.

    Played a half down back against Norf too.

    7 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

    I think you'll find that Naughton is a bit  like TMac and Weid - needs a clear run at it to cause damage in the air.  From memory May has been very effective at stopping him getting a run at it in our previous matches.  I rate Smith but he's not the right one for Naughton

    Naughton’s game dropped off when Bruce went down. He looked good on Sat  (& he is good), because they played English a fair amount of time in the forward line and used Scache  to isolate Allir. They could use English that way because Lycett & Ladhams are def no Gawn & Jackson (find it amazing that media continually reference Gawn & the opposing ruckmen but don’t mention Jackson). I think our ruck combo is a massive headache for them.  Hibberd would def match up on Hannan & the combo of May..Lever & Petty with Gawn  dropping back  should be able to handle basically Naughton & Scache with English thrown in. If we play & Bulldogs play similar to the PF’s …we win .

     

    I reckon May plays.  The club said the hamstring is related to his back.  This is consistent with May missing a game late in the season for back issues.  He missed one week.  He now has two weeks to rest up.  

    When Hibberd was dropped post Bulldgos, Bowey came in and has cemented his spot and the team included Hunt.  The only changes we've had since were for injuries utilising Smith then Hibberd when Smith went out.. 

    Based on that recent history I think our selection order is Hunt, Smith then Hibberd.

    Our 'settled' team is with Hunt and if fit I think he will come in for Hibberd.  Hunt's speed will be an asset vs the fast wbd mid sized wds.

    I don't envy selectors.  Some worthy players will miss out on a dream to have a chance at a premiership.

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    12 hours ago, A F said:

    I'd be tempted to play Smith as medi sub. Then if a forward or a back goes down he could step in. Not a great option though, I'll admit. I don't trust either of them.

    We may actually not need the extra tall if May goes down. Petty to Naughton, Lever on Schache or even Hibbo on Schache or Gawn in slow plays.

    Not ideal of course, but you roll with the punches.

    Sadly for Jordan, I think this is an option to consider. Smith can play tall, good engine and pinch hit in a number of positions, but mainly an important insurance for the premiership defence set up that will win us the game.

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