UMPIRES - Some Stats

[jnrmac 19,505]

In the past 5 years, Geelong have never lost a game when either Andrew Stephens (12 games) or Nathan Willamson (10 games) have officiated.

In 11 Brisbane games Simon Meredith has umpired, the Lions have had a 72.7% winning rate.

Melbourne boasts its strongest winning percentage when Andrew Stephens is officiating, winning 76.9% of games. The Dees have won 68.8% with Ray Chamberlain

GWS have a winning % of 80 with Dean Margetts.

The dogs have a 72.7% winning rate with Chris Donlon

Port Adelaide win 90% with Leigh Haussen umpiring but only 36.4% with Jeff Dalgleish.

Power have won 66.7% of their games when Ray Chamberlain had the whistle.

Sydney has won 80% of their games under either Hayden Gavine and Andre Gianfagna.

* These stats are for the last 5 years with a minimum 10 games umpired. No mention of West Coast and Margetts!

MELBOURNE

Games/ W/ D/ L/ %

Best

Andrew Stephens 13 – 10 – 1 – 2 – 76.9

Worst

David Harris 10 – 3 – 0 -7 – 30

BRISBANE LIONS

Games/ W/ D/ L/ %

Best

Simon Meredith 11 – 8 – 0- 3 – 72.7

Worst

Robert O’Gorman 13 – 4- 0 – 9 

Edited August 27, 2021 by jnrmac

[Demonland 66,956]

Our umpires this week are:

Umpires

Chris Donlon (1), Ray Chamberlain (18), Craig Fleer (26)

[george_on_the_outer 7,105]

How could they possibly give us Fleer (26) again this week after that appalling "no intent" OOB against Gus?

[buck_nekkid 5,642]

1 minute ago, george_on_the_outer said:

How could they possibly give us Fleer (26) again this week after that appalling "no intent" OOB against Gus?

Hopefully the git has been spoken to.

[Sydee 3,755]

1 minute ago, george_on_the_outer said:

How could they possibly give us Fleer (26) again this week after that appalling "no intent" OOB against Gus?

Not sure if the same umpire but the one they didn't pay against Sellwood was just as bad - he had one single intention - putting the ball out of play - remarkable he got away with it particularly given the circumstances

[Lord Nev 13,512]

What a ridiculous thread and completely silly time to bring up the notion of umpire bias...

It's like you're daring the Red Fox.

[Skuit 9,382]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

In the past 5 years, Geelong have never lost a game when either Andrew Stephens (12 games) or Nathan Willamson (10 games) have officiated.

In 11 Brisbane games Simon Meredith has umpired, the Lions have had a 72.7% winning rate.

Melbourne boasts its strongest winning percentage when Andrew Stephens is officiating, winning 76.9% of games. The Dees have won 68.8% with Ray Chamberlain

GWS have a winning % of 80 with Dean Margetts.

The dogs have a 72.7% winning rate with Chris Donlon

Port Adelaide win 90% with Leigh Haussen umpiring but only 36.4% with Jeff Dalgleish.

Power have won 66.7% of their games when Ray Chamberlain had the whistle.

Sydney has won 80% of their games under either Hayden Gavine and Andre Gianfagna.

* These stats are for the last 5 years with a minimum 10 games umpired. No mention of West Coast and Margetts!

MELBOURNE

Games/ W/ D/ L/ %

Best

Andrew Stephens 13 – 10 – 1 – 2 – 76.9

Worst

David Harris 10 – 3 – 0 -7 – 30

BRISBANE LIONS

Games/ W/ D/ L/ %

Best

Simon Meredith 11 – 8 – 0- 3 – 72.7

Worst

Robert O’Gorman 13 – 4- 0 – 9 

Any qualifiers here? Do some umpires tend to officiate more often at certain venues, such that an existing home-ground advantage is already in play? I note that most of the clubs mentioned are non-Melbourne based. 

[buck_nekkid 5,642]

Incidentally, these stats are meaningless.  They are correlative not causative.  The percentage victories of the team has little to do with the umpire designated to that game.  It would be more value to review the number of free kicks, or differential, per team compared to average of all umpires officiating that team.  This would begin to expose any *unconscious* bias. 

[george_on_the_outer 7,105]

6 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Not sure if the same umpire but the one they didn't pay against Sellwood was just as bad - he had one single intention - putting the ball out of play - remarkable he got away with it particularly given the circumstances

The central controlling umpire at the time was Stevic. He didn't call Gus's "indescretion" same as he didn't call Selwoods. 

Fleer was the forward umpire who should never have even made the call against Gus, as it wasn't in his controlling area ( apart from being blatantly wrong). 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Razor has been good to us, if your reading Ray.....have a great game on Saturday Night and good luck. :)

[leave it to deever 16,581]

26 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Incidentally, these stats are meaningless.  They are correlative not causative.  The percentage victories of the team has little to do with the umpire designated to that game.  It would be more value to review the number of free kicks, or differential, per team compared to average of all umpires officiating that team.  This would begin to expose any *unconscious* bias. 

This post is probably fifty five percent correct.

[Jaded No More 60,093]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Our umpires this week are:

Umpires

Chris Donlon (1), Ray Chamberlain (18), Craig Fleer (26)

Hi Ray, we love you, be kind to us.

The other two, please stay irrelevant by not making poor calls. Cheers. 

[loges 6,373]

53 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Razor has been good to us, if your reading Ray.....have a great game on Saturday Night and good luck. :)

Don't mind Razor, usually pays 1 howler a game but other than that he's pretty solid.

[jnrmac 19,505]

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

Any qualifiers here? Do some umpires tend to officiate more often at certain venues, such that an existing home-ground advantage is already in play? I note that most of the clubs mentioned are non-Melbourne based. 

No idea. There was an aricle on Fox footy about it.

It doesn' t mean anything of itself. It simply looks at the numbers. It doesn't claim there is bias or otherwise. Just presenting facts.

 

[jnrmac 19,505]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Our umpires this week are:

Umpires

Chris Donlon (1), Ray Chamberlain (18), Craig Fleer (26)

I've always loved Donlan Chamberlain and FLeer.

My favourite umpires in the whole world (in case they are reading...)

[TRIGON 4,721]

3 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

How could they possibly give us Fleer (26) again this week after that appalling "no intent" OOB against Gus?

Because he set-up our win!

[DEE fence 4,593]

Anyone know of a good interview with an umpire about the pressure and public recognition they might get? Must be intense, and often confrontational.

[Demonstone 20,032]

I don't have the transcript to hand, but here's a photo of a recent interview with an umpire.

[ucanchoose 1,807]

As long as we don't see Williamson again

[Fritta and Turner 3,898]

5 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

How could they possibly give us Fleer (26) again this week after that appalling "no intent" OOB against Gus?

He promised to get it right next time?

[whatwhat say what 20,399]

razor is one the best decision makers and one of the the worst bouncers of the ball

[Willmoy1947 3,855]

2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

razor is one the best decision makers and one of the the worst bouncers of the ball

..and he knows it..

[dl4e 5,702]

Nicholls is the one that bothers me the most.

[Jaded No More 60,093]

2 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Nicholls is the one that bothers me the most.

He hates us and the feeling is very mutual. 

[Demon Head 253]

18 hours ago, Demonland said:

Our umpires this week are:

Umpires

Chris Donlon (1), Ray Chamberlain (18), Craig Fleer (26)

Hoping Razor Ray’s Melbourne %age goes to over 70 tonight.