CHANGES: Rd 15 vs Essendon

[titan_uranus 25,229]

Getting in early given we don't play for another 12 days, but:

In: B Brown, Viney

Out: Weid, Sparrow

The poor performance is very little to do with player selection and a hell of a lot to do with application. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,676]

In. A brain 

out. Stupidity. 
 

In. First option

Out. Handballing to a bloke under more pressure 

In   Marking inside fwd 50  

out.  Kicking to the fwd pocket 

In. Viney out Sparrow 

In. Brown out Weideman 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Getting in early given we don't play for another 12 days, but:

In: B Brown, Viney

Out: Weid, Sparrow

The poor performance is very little to do with player selection and a hell of a lot to do with application. 

Agreed. Weid simply must go - another Barry Crocker today. BBB should be given the time to settle in to our structure ( though I'm not sure what that was today)

Viney in. Sparrow is the logical out but he will get more opportunities.

[Click_Bate 182]

IN Viney, B.Brown.

OUT Weid, Sparrow.

Besides Tomlinson who I think is now clearly the better option over Petty when fit, we should be able to field our best possible side against Essendon

[Demon Dynasty 17,150]

Too easy.

Viney (if fit) or Chunk for Sparrow (reaction time too slow / sloppy for AFL at this stage)

BB or MB for Weid

[olisik 4,060]

Melksham would have kept Maynard quiet today.

In: Melksham, B.Brown, Viney

Out: Weiderman, Sparrow, Chandler

Edited June 14, 2021 by olisik

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Easy changes 

In: Viney, Ben Brown 

Out: Sparrow, Weideman 

Melksham medical sub 

[whatwhat say what 23,748]

8 minutes ago, olisik said:

Melksham would have kept Maynard quiet today.

In: Melksham, B.Brown, Viney

Out: Weiderman, Sparrow, Chandler

we definitely missed someone with 'smarts' around half forward to kick it i50

i'mma second those changes, but it'll be interesting to see who would be the medi-sub...i suspect one of melksham or jordon, given that viney will start straight away as an inside mid option

Edited June 14, 2021 by whatwhat say what

[Older demon 2,801]

Agree with all of the above. WE failed to lock the ball in our forward line which has been our strength. Pies cruised out the backline lowered their eyes and hit forward leading targets. Simple game plan

[deebug 1,754]

And yet we stood back and let it happen?

Goodwin sees this, so why the dosn't he do anything about it???

[titan_uranus 25,229]

3 minutes ago, deebug said:

And yet we stood back and let it happen?

Goodwin sees this, so why the dosn't he do anything about it???

Do anything about what?

We got to 11-1 by implementing a gameplan and structure and following it. We're not about to throw the magnets around. He correctly put the onus on the players to right the ship, which they'd done vs Hawthorn and North, but this time it didn't happen. Not Goodwin's fault, and not lost at selection either.

[Ollie fan 3,671]

3 minutes ago, deebug said:

And yet we stood back and let it happen?

Goodwin sees this, so why the dosn't he do anything about it???

Perhaps because he wasn’t playing. There is only so much he can do. Or are we back to “Is Goodwin the right guy?” even though we are still on top of the ladder.

[Superunknown 4,246]

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

Do anything about what?

We got to 11-1 by implementing a gameplan and structure and following it. We're not about to throw the magnets around. He correctly put the onus on the players to right the ship, which they'd done vs Hawthorn and North, but this time it didn't happen. Not Goodwin's fault, and not lost at selection either.

Disagree on selection aspect 

[titan_uranus 25,229]

1 minute ago, Superunknown said:

Disagree on selection aspect 

Why?

I'd have picked Brown over Weid the entire time but having backed him in and having beaten two top 4 sides in a row, we didn't miss a trick with selection this week.

[Superunknown 4,246]

7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Why?

I'd have picked Brown over Weid the entire time but having backed him in and having beaten two top 4 sides in a row, we didn't miss a trick with selection this week.

Brown over Weid for some weeks now. Hubris carrying him this long. Compare to other flag favourites. Would Geelong carry someone with these numbers this long ? I haven’t consulted the stats so it’s possible other teams have carried KPFs but let’s not compare Weid to Riewoldt Cameron Lynch et al

[dl4e 5,851]

Out Weed

In Viney

Smaller forward line.

[titan_uranus 25,229]

11 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Brown over Weid for some weeks now. Hubris carrying him this long. Compare to other flag favourites. Would Geelong carry someone with these numbers this long ? I haven’t consulted the stats so it’s possible other teams have carried KPFs but let’s not compare Weid to Riewoldt Cameron Lynch et al

It's not hubris.

The call that was wrong, IMO, was dropping Brown over Weideman when we did. Since then, Brown had one chance at Casey to get form back and didn't take it. Weideman did just enough to warrant further chances.

Whilst IMO Brown would have made a sizeable difference to how we moved the ball and what we did with it inside 50, reality is there was too much else wrong with us to win today.

[doc roet 1,302]

Weidermam should do a Watts and ask to be dropped. 

[Dave1711 145]

Was just an off day, our minds weren’t on it and they were always gonna do it for Buckley 

Out Weid sparrow 

in Brown Viney

[Superunknown 4,246]

22 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

It's not hubris.

The call that was wrong, IMO, was dropping Brown over Weideman when we did. Since then, Brown had one chance at Casey to get form back and didn't take it. Weideman did just enough to warrant further chances.

Whilst IMO Brown would have made a sizeable difference to how we moved the ball and what we did with it inside 50, reality is there was too much else wrong with us to win today.

I think hubris but I can see why there is a perception you give him a block of games (also keeping in mind BBB apparently in a 6 week fitness hardening block), but, given his form I think we’ve thought we can carry him. He wasn’t Robinson Crusoe today by any stretch .

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,367]

Out Weid, Sparrow

In Chandler, Viney

I still think our forward line has looked at its best with TMac and Jackson with  Fritsch as the third early in the year. Time to get back to that until BBB is banging the door down to force us to consider something taller. 

[DeeSpencer 26,650]

In: Viney
Out: Weid

Under consideration: Brayshaw for Chandler or Jones.

Our forward line was better with the 1 tall forward and Jackson/Fritsch. Viney back means more Harmes and Petracca forward as well.

Brayshaw is so pitiful. Just miles off his man all game. Don't tell me it's structure either because JJ and Langdon manage to get on theirs (less so this week).  If a half back got caught up the ground he made no effort to cover back for them. His ball use is awful. 

 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

I don’t mind reverting back to a smaller forward line.  But I don’t know if Tmac and Fritsch provide enough scoring or contested marking power come finals. 

[WERRIDEE 5,637]

2 obvious ins and outs.

IN: VINEY, B.BROWN

OUT: SPARROW, WEIDEMAN

Weideman won't play a game for the rest of the season he's cooked. Time to let him go for a second rounder.

[DeeSpencer 26,650]

6 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I don’t mind reverting back to a smaller forward line.  But I don’t know if Tmac and Fritsch provide enough scoring or contested marking power come finals. 

We might be better off with one of Brown or Weid come finals, but I think it's clear Weid needs a spell and Brown can't come back in on no form or games. 

Let's get our pressure game back on track then work out if we need the extra tall. There's still a long way left in the season