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Getting in early given we don't play for another 12 days, but:

In: B Brown, Viney

Out: Weid, Sparrow

The poor performance is very little to do with player selection and a hell of a lot to do with application. 

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    In. A brain 

    out. Stupidity. 
     

    In. First option

    Out. Handballing to a bloke under more pressure 

    In   Marking inside fwd 50  

    out.  Kicking to the fwd pocket 

    In. Viney out Sparrow 

    In. Brown out Weideman 

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    2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    Getting in early given we don't play for another 12 days, but:

    In: B Brown, Viney

    Out: Weid, Sparrow

    The poor performance is very little to do with player selection and a hell of a lot to do with application. 

    Agreed. Weid simply must go - another Barry Crocker today. BBB should be given the time to settle in to our structure ( though I'm not sure what that was today)

    Viney in. Sparrow is the logical out but he will get more opportunities.

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    IN Viney, B.Brown.

    OUT Weid, Sparrow.

    Besides Tomlinson who I think is now clearly the better option over Petty when fit, we should be able to field our best possible side against Essendon

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    Too easy.

    Viney (if fit) or Chunk for Sparrow (reaction time too slow / sloppy for AFL at this stage)

    BB or MB for Weid


    Melksham would have kept Maynard quiet today.

    In: Melksham, B.Brown, Viney

    Out: Weiderman, Sparrow, Chandler

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    Easy changes 

    In: Viney, Ben Brown 

    Out: Sparrow, Weideman 

    Melksham medical sub 

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    8 minutes ago, olisik said:

    Melksham would have kept Maynard quiet today.

    In: Melksham, B.Brown, Viney

    Out: Weiderman, Sparrow, Chandler

    we definitely missed someone with 'smarts' around half forward to kick it i50

    i'mma second those changes, but it'll be interesting to see who would be the medi-sub...i suspect one of melksham or jordon, given that viney will start straight away as an inside mid option

    Edited by whatwhat say what

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    Agree with all of the above. WE failed to lock the ball in our forward line which has been our strength. Pies cruised out the backline lowered their eyes and hit forward leading targets. Simple game plan

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    And yet we stood back and let it happen?

    Goodwin sees this, so why the dosn't he do anything about it???

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    3 minutes ago, deebug said:

    And yet we stood back and let it happen?

    Goodwin sees this, so why the dosn't he do anything about it???

    Do anything about what?

    We got to 11-1 by implementing a gameplan and structure and following it. We're not about to throw the magnets around. He correctly put the onus on the players to right the ship, which they'd done vs Hawthorn and North, but this time it didn't happen. Not Goodwin's fault, and not lost at selection either.

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    3 minutes ago, deebug said:

    And yet we stood back and let it happen?

    Goodwin sees this, so why the dosn't he do anything about it???

    Perhaps because he wasn’t playing. There is only so much he can do. Or are we back to “Is Goodwin the right guy?” even though we are still on top of the ladder.

    1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

    Do anything about what?

    We got to 11-1 by implementing a gameplan and structure and following it. We're not about to throw the magnets around. He correctly put the onus on the players to right the ship, which they'd done vs Hawthorn and North, but this time it didn't happen. Not Goodwin's fault, and not lost at selection either.

    Disagree on selection aspect 

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    1 minute ago, Superunknown said:

    Disagree on selection aspect 

    Why?

    I'd have picked Brown over Weid the entire time but having backed him in and having beaten two top 4 sides in a row, we didn't miss a trick with selection this week.

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    7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    Why?

    I'd have picked Brown over Weid the entire time but having backed him in and having beaten two top 4 sides in a row, we didn't miss a trick with selection this week.

    Brown over Weid for some weeks now. Hubris carrying him this long. Compare to other flag favourites. Would Geelong carry someone with these numbers this long ? I haven’t consulted the stats so it’s possible other teams have carried KPFs but let’s not compare Weid to Riewoldt Cameron Lynch et al

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    Out Weed

    In Viney

    Smaller forward line.

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    11 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

    Brown over Weid for some weeks now. Hubris carrying him this long. Compare to other flag favourites. Would Geelong carry someone with these numbers this long ? I haven’t consulted the stats so it’s possible other teams have carried KPFs but let’s not compare Weid to Riewoldt Cameron Lynch et al

    It's not hubris.

    The call that was wrong, IMO, was dropping Brown over Weideman when we did. Since then, Brown had one chance at Casey to get form back and didn't take it. Weideman did just enough to warrant further chances.

    Whilst IMO Brown would have made a sizeable difference to how we moved the ball and what we did with it inside 50, reality is there was too much else wrong with us to win today.

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    Was just an off day, our minds weren’t on it and they were always gonna do it for Buckley 

    Out Weid sparrow 

    in Brown Viney

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    22 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    It's not hubris.

    The call that was wrong, IMO, was dropping Brown over Weideman when we did. Since then, Brown had one chance at Casey to get form back and didn't take it. Weideman did just enough to warrant further chances.

    Whilst IMO Brown would have made a sizeable difference to how we moved the ball and what we did with it inside 50, reality is there was too much else wrong with us to win today.

    I think hubris but I can see why there is a perception you give him a block of games (also keeping in mind BBB apparently in a 6 week fitness hardening block), but, given his form I think we’ve thought we can carry him. He wasn’t Robinson Crusoe today by any stretch .


    Out Weid, Sparrow

    In Chandler, Viney

    I still think our forward line has looked at its best with TMac and Jackson with  Fritsch as the third early in the year. Time to get back to that until BBB is banging the door down to force us to consider something taller. 

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    In: Viney
    Out: Weid

    Under consideration: Brayshaw for Chandler or Jones.

    Our forward line was better with the 1 tall forward and Jackson/Fritsch. Viney back means more Harmes and Petracca forward as well.

    Brayshaw is so pitiful. Just miles off his man all game. Don't tell me it's structure either because JJ and Langdon manage to get on theirs (less so this week).  If a half back got caught up the ground he made no effort to cover back for them. His ball use is awful. 

     

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    I don’t mind reverting back to a smaller forward line.  But I don’t know if Tmac and Fritsch provide enough scoring or contested marking power come finals. 

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    2 obvious ins and outs.

    IN: VINEY, B.BROWN

    OUT: SPARROW, WEIDEMAN

    Weideman won't play a game for the rest of the season he's cooked. Time to let him go for a second rounder.

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    6 minutes ago, Jaded said:

    I don’t mind reverting back to a smaller forward line.  But I don’t know if Tmac and Fritsch provide enough scoring or contested marking power come finals. 

    We might be better off with one of Brown or Weid come finals, but I think it's clear Weid needs a spell and Brown can't come back in on no form or games. 

    Let's get our pressure game back on track then work out if we need the extra tall. There's still a long way left in the season

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