Where will we play the Lions?

[Demonland 70,259]

3 minutes ago, Nasher said:

How does it offer no tourism benefits? Someone on here said recently they tried to get accomodation in Alice for the game and there was NOTHING available. 

I find it hard to believe there are NO benefits, or otherwise why would they do the deal in the first place? I do note I get an “Explore the NT” ad every time I watch video content on the MFC website, for starters (I can hear that catchy fluty song in my head now).

No benefits now that the Vics can't attend. I'm sure there are plenty of room available now if you want to fly to the NT this weekend.

[Superunknown 4,058]

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

If we are given the option of SCG and the Gabba I would prefer to take the SCG. It might however become a purely financial decision given the loss of the 800K (Alice Springs) and likely $1 Mil (Queens Birthday). Taking the Gabba gate might just be a case of cutting our financial losses than playing in front of an empty SCG. I doubt the 100s of NSW Dees and those Lions that travel south would even come close to what we could make playing at the Gabba.

It was earlier reported that Carlton were offered SCG or Optus Stadium next week to play West Coast and chose SCG. They didn't have the huge financial loss hanging over their heads and they are already in Sydney so why travel into the belly of the beast and play the Eagles on their flat track. They've understandably chosen the SCG.

We have a big decision to make. I would at least try to get our next 2 games vs the Lions at the G. We hardly ever seem to play them there.

 

The bigger picture here is the grand final. Strategically that is the goal because from that flows sponsorships, memberships and a kick butt draw next year including blockbuster TV. Forgoing the Gabba to get an advantage (perceived or not) from the SCG is good long term sense.

[Demonland 70,259]

3 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

+1

people are demonstrating they have limited perspective on the entire issue and looking quite silly

There are other venues online for people to vent or have their voices heard.

[Cards13 9,117]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Would you prefer to fly in and out of Alice Springs (if permitted by NT) or hub in Sydney (meaning better preparation) for the Lions match?

I put it that way because if we are allowed to play in the Alice it would likely be a fly in fly out situation like we did in Cairns. However if we hub for a week or two in Sydney and play at the SCG or Giants then our preparation is more settled.

 

I would and I wouldn’t. Yes because we make the $700k and get to see a game played in an amazing place, no because NT and our club misses out on the community development aspect of the NT gov paying for teams to come to the NT. 

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 4,778]

Sorry if this has been floated before, but any chance a later home game could be in ASP? We have Ess, GWS, Haw, WB, Adel remaining. Hawthorn perhaps? If they keep going the way they are, the MCG gate may be no bonanza...

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Melbourne will lose $800,000 from the NT Government if it loses its Alice Springs clash and $1 million-plus if the Queen’s Birthday clash at the MCG in Round 13 is relocated.

Demons CEO Gary Pert said on Saturday the alternative was playing in Sydney or Queensland on Friday night.

“At this stage it’s more likely to be interstate,” Pert said of the clash, which could cost the Demons $800,000 if not played under a NT sponsorship arrangement.

Im sorry for swearing everyone but that is [censored] [censored] brutal!!! 

[chookrat 4,205]

30 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Can anyone explain why we are “no chance” to play in Alice? Hard Vic-NT border?

I wonder what day/time a decision needs to be made. With the 7 day "circuit-breaker" lockdown scheduled to finish midnight on Thursday, and an announcement likely on the Thursday morning on whether restrictions would ease, it is plausible that the NT Government could allow Melbourne to travel on either Thursday or Friday morning if we don't have cases that cannot be traced to an existing case.

[Cards13 9,117]

32 minutes ago, Nasher said:

How does it offer no tourism benefits? Someone on here said recently they tried to get accomodation in Alice for the game and there was NOTHING available. 

I find it hard to believe there are NO benefits, or otherwise why would they do the deal in the first place? I do note I get an “Explore the NT” ad every time I watch video content on the MFC website, for starters (I can hear that catchy fluty song in my head now).

I would assume half to 2/3s of the guest would have been from Vic who now can’t attend. A lot less guests and a lot less $$ sadly.

I mentioned before but one of the key benefits we’re all missing is the AFL clubs being in the communities for a week (well it used to be).

[Adam The God 29,358]

59 minutes ago, Jaded said:

NT is the one place in Australia where a hard border at all times makes sense. They have such a large number of vulnerable communities. The risk is too great if an outbreak was to happen and they don’t have the resources that big states have in terms of hospitals. 

WA very similar situation...

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,291]

I imagine we need the cash. Our gate this year has been pathetic. Despite being on top of the ladder, outside the Tigers game, don’t think we have cracked an MCG crowd over 40k. Pretty disappointing given the way the team is playing. 

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

35 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

I would assume half to 2/3s of the guest would have been from Vic who now can’t attend. A lot less guests and a lot less $$ sadly.

You would assume wrong.

 

another frustration is for the Santa Teresa community who were going to get a visit from some at the Demons to open the newly grassed oval that that this week had the goal posts from the MCG installed. Saw them Friday, they look brilliant.

[Brownie 5,863]

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Ch 7 news reported it just then. I think it was Mark Stevens that mentioned Brisbane as an outside chance to host the game.

Aside from finances I can’t work out the rationale in conceding a home game to Brisbane.

Destroy them on their home turf and take the gate takings from 35000 lions fans would be sweet as bro.

N.b. I live in the northern rivers and it's less than two hours drive away so I'm biased.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

58 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I wonder what day/time a decision needs to be made. With the 7 day "circuit-breaker" lockdown scheduled to finish midnight on Thursday, and an announcement likely on the Thursday morning on whether restrictions would ease, it is plausible that the NT Government could allow Melbourne to travel on either Thursday or Friday morning if we don't have cases that cannot be traced to an existing case.

If in the next 2 days, there was no cases (unlikely I know), the government here would more likely than not, let the game go ahead

[Diamond_Jim 12,357]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

If we are given the option of SCG and the Gabba I would prefer to take the SCG. It might however become a purely financial decision given the loss of the 800K (Alice Springs) and likely $1 Mil (Queens Birthday). Taking the Gabba gate might just be a case of cutting our financial losses than playing in front of an empty SCG. I doubt the 100s of NSW Dees and those Lions that travel south would even come close to what we could make playing at the Gabba.

It was earlier reported that Carlton were offered SCG or Optus Stadium next week to play West Coast and chose SCG. They didn't have the huge financial loss hanging over their heads and they are already in Sydney so why travel into the belly of the beast and play the Eagles on their flat track. They've understandably chosen the SCG.

We have a big decision to make. I would at least try to get our next 2 games vs the Lions at the G. We hardly ever seem to play them there.

 

Tired of having our season compromised by finances.

We've been doing it for 20 odd years starting with the slae of our home game to Brisbane.

Happy to throw in $10-20 to soften the blow.

I've learnt to like the Alice game as an exception but NO MORE

[Nasher 33,607]

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

I would assume half to 2/3s of the guest would have been from Vic who now can’t attend. A lot less guests and a lot less $$ sadly.

I mentioned before but one of the key benefits we’re all missing is the AFL clubs being in the communities for a week (well it used to be).

Yes, sorry. That question was a brainfart.

[layzie 32,816]

33 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Destroy them on their home turf and take the gate takings from 35000 lions fans would be sweet as bro.

N.b. I live in the northern rivers and it's less than two hours drive away so I'm biased.

Would be a nice throwback to when we sold off home games to them and occasionally knocked them off!

[DubDee 24,354]

So we have no idea yet??

[Cards13 9,117]

45 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

You would assume wrong.

 

another frustration is for the Santa Teresa community who were going to get a visit from some at the Demons to open the newly grassed oval that that this week had the goal posts from the MCG installed. Saw them Friday, they look brilliant.

Sorry do I assume wrong, we’re are the guests coming from for the NT gov to pay $800k for the game?

I was the first in the thread to say that one of the key issues I see is the club not being able to interact with the NT community during the week even if we do get to play in NT but sure..

Edited May 30, 2021 by Cards13

[spirit of norm smith 15,143]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

How does it offer no tourism benefits? Someone on here said recently they tried to get accomodation in Alice for the game and there was NOTHING available. 

I find it hard to believe there are NO benefits, or otherwise why would they do the deal in the first place? I do note I get an “Explore the NT” ad every time I watch video content on the MFC website, for starters (I can hear that catchy fluty song in my head now).

Missed the point. Yes the tourism benefits are there usually and attracts lots of us Victorians fans making a winter escape. I’ve been to the Alice game and twice to Darwin.  Spent 2-3 days each side and spent plenty of $$$ each time towards the NT economy.  
 

But if Victorians cannot travel to NT, this will greatly reduce the NT benefits from the game and they (NT GOVT) may decide risks are too great (and lack of tourism add on means better to delay).

Recommended- I think Dees could swap this NT game and ask AFL to try to reschedule our round 16 (July 3rd) match v Giants to be played at Alice Springs. 

Edited May 30, 2021 by spirit of norm smith
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[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

14 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Sorry do I assume wrong, we’re are the guests coming from for the NT gov to pay $800k for the game?

I was the first in the thread to say that one of the key issues I see is the club not being able to interact with the NT community during the week even if we do get to play in NT but sure..

Sorry, have you attended the bulk of these games?

 

Yes you are way off the mark, the government pay for the game for the advertising it brings and to a less extent, to give some entertainment to the locals, many of whom travel a few hundred kms just to attend the game, see the Mt Liebig mob last year.

 

so glad you are pointing out how you were first to point out the lack of interaction, this person who has previously organised some of those events is so grateful.

 

but sure.... apology accepted.

[Demonland 70,259]

20 minutes ago, DubDee said:

So we have no idea yet??

Not yet. I assume they’ll (AFL & Dees) try everything they can to get an exemption to FIFO for the game in Alice Springs and failing that play it at the SCG/Giants Stadium or Gabba/Metricon. 

[titan_uranus 24,595]

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Not yet. I assume they’ll (AFL & Dees) try everything they can to get an exemption to FIFO for the game in Alice Springs and failing that play it at the SCG/Giants Stadium or Gabba/Metricon. 

Agree, I assume the delay is because the hope is we can get into the NT.

Another day or two (max) might be the difference, if we get a decent run on numbers in Victoria. If not, then NSW.

[Cards13 9,117]

21 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Sorry, have you attended the bulk of these games?

 

Yes you are way off the mark, the government pay for the game for the advertising it brings and to a less extent, to give some entertainment to the locals, many of whom travel a few hundred kms just to attend the game, see the Mt Liebig mob last year.

 

so glad you are pointing out how you were first to point out the lack of interaction, this person who has previously organised some of those events is so grateful.

 

but sure.... apology accepted.

Uhm why are you being so aggressive? I made a statement based on the concept of a Dees game would be attended by Dees fans who hhhgmmmm are from Melb thus accom would be booked out due to interstate tourism, you’ve yet to make a single point that dissuades me from this point. Happy to hear otherwise.

Outside of that you’re coming across as way over the top for zero reason, a you know it all just because kind a guy. Zero apologise from this side needed muscles.

[Supermercado 2,784]

For the sake of $700k+ (especially if we get shafted out of Queen's Birthday) move the Round 16 GWS game there.

[titan_uranus 24,595]

1 minute ago, Cards13 said:

Uhm why are you being so aggressive? I made a statement based on the concept of a Dees game would be attended by Dees fans who hhhgmmmm are from Melb thus accom would be booked out due to interstate tourism, you’ve yet to make a single point that dissuades me from this point. Happy to hear otherwise.

Outside of that you’re coming across as way over the top for zero reason, a you know it all just because kind a guy. Zero apologise from this side needed muscles.

Mate, he's given you two points in his previous post: the NT government pays for the game for marketing (i.e. it doesn't matter who shows up in the crowd, what matters is the broadcast showing off Alice Springs) and for entertainment for their own population, who wouldn't get to see AFL games in their own Territory unless the government paid for a game.

And if @Rod Grinter Riot Squad is coming across as.a "know it all", that might just be because he's from Alice Springs, and actually knows what is happening in the NT.