Luke Jackson Replacement - vs Carlton

[Jaded No More 68,973]

This is not really a question. Weideman will come in. We’ve waited all year for an opportunity to slot him in. 
Given Jackson is only 1-2 weeks away, he, Tmac and BB will all wanna play at their best. Someone will lose their position in two weeks. Not a bad thing really. 

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1 hour ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

PHHHRRAAAWWW, THAT’S SOME GOOD GEAR BOYS! 

Gold. 

[bush demon 2,062]

Majak will be there, mark it. His journey is inspirational and his time will come during the season. Sam's time is now, he is cherry ripe and will seize the the chance to show his wares. 

[ProperDee 1,698]

I now wait with bated breath to see young Sam come into the team on a wet and slippery MCG, not have an impact and watch those here who have been screaming for his inclusion, tear him a new one. 
 

I hope he kicks 6.
 

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4 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

we're a team that's struggling to win clearance, but can kick a winning score. 

Majak for me. we need a ruckman who can play forward, not a forward who can play ruck. 

priority has to be the midfield and clearance. 

We're getting smashed in centre clearances with the best ruckman in the game. How is a part time ruckman in Majak going to change anything? Clearly its a structure  and spacing issue. 

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42 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

I now wait with bated breath to see young Sam come into the team on a wet and slippery MCG, not have an impact and watch those here who have been screaming for his inclusion, tear him a new one. 
 

I hope he kicks 6.
 

Throw out a hypothetical here:

Weid comes in this week and kicks 4 as second ruck/forward, with TMac and Brown kicking 3 each.

Jacko has another week off and we get similarly positive performances from all three, do we drop one so Jack comes in or does Dogga have to come back via Casey?

[kev martin 10,409]

1 hour ago, ProperDee said:

I now wait with bated breath to see young Sam come into the team on a wet and slippery MCG, not have an impact and watch those here who have been screaming for his inclusion, tear him a new 

Assuming Weids gets a call up.

Weids is ok below his knees and has been out at Casey (wet and windy), so could be used to challenging conditions. 

The very least, his will bring the ball down in front of himself, giving the crumbers a go at it, or following up himself.

Hoping he clunks his marks.

Who do Carlton send, Weitering, Jones, maybe Omac? 

22 minutes ago, Pates said:

Weid comes in this week and kicks 4 as second ruck/forward, with TMac and Brown kicking 3 each.

Jacko has another week off and we get similarly positive performances from all three, do we drop one so Jack comes in or does Dogga have to come back via Casey?

Wouldn't want him in the seconds, comes straight back in, after training load is right.

Play him as a mid, rotations to forward area. 

Do you mean Viney (Jack). Have to play him as well.

The team balance is not all that important,  if they are playing well find a place for them all, reward performance. 

We can restructure and vary the system. It will give us flexibility for our game plan. Keep the opposition guessing so they can't get a read on our blueprints. The coaches can keep innovating, and come the end of the home and away they will know our best match plans and match ups.

Edited May 12, 2021 by kev martin

[Fork 'em 6,991]

Bring on the Weid.
If he gets overlooked for Daw he will think seriously about forking off to another club.

 

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I think I may be only person to have have selected other ?

I don’t really see Jackson as a real forward. Don’t get me wrong, he’s done a fantastic job with Brown and Weid out. He kicks the odd goal and has brought the ball to ground but his real damage is functioning as a mid around stoppages (and freeing Gawn in the early rounds).

And am still not convinced we can play Brown, TMac, Fritsch and Weidemen in the forward line with or without Jackson in the side. 

Could we replace his mid role with Sparrow, let TMac ruck in the forward half, and let Gawn handle the Center Bounces and back half stoppages?

Given Jackson’s incredible versatility, I guess it depends on which of his roles we really need to replace to match up with the blues.  I don’t think we need his forward role.   The Sparrow option wouldn’t free up Gawn, but it would give us more options to rectify the centre clearance deficit.  
 

Majak would be my second vote. Frees Gawn and avoids too many changes to our forward line.  

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59 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Do you mean Viney (Jack). Have to play him as well.

Haha I was meaning "Jacko" not Jack! Viney definitely comes in when fit. 

I get what you're saying with LJ playing more as a mid but I feel like the balance of too many talls could affect our two-way running and the pressure we put on other teams. It's a good potential problem to have but a problem none the less.

[58er 6,560]

6 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Weideman.
No brainer.

Happy for TMac to play with a bit more freedom around the ground in the Jackson role and then Weideman and Brown to play the key forward roles they trained for in pre-season.

 

No we need Tommy  up forward msinly.  

[58er 6,560]

2 hours ago, kev martin said:

Assuming Weids gets a call up.

Weids is ok below his knees and has been out at Casey (wet and windy), so could be used to challenging conditions. 

The very least, his will bring the ball down in front of himself, giving the crumbers a go at it, or following up himself.

Hoping he clunks his marks.

Who do Carlton send, Weitering, Jones, maybe Omac? 

Wouldn't want him in the seconds, comes straight back in, after training load is right.

Play him as a mid, rotations to forward area. 

Do you mean Viney (Jack). Have to play him as well.

The team balance is not all that important,  if they are playing well find a place for them all, reward performance. 

We can restructure and vary the system. It will give us flexibility for our game plan. Keep the opposition guessing so they can't get a read on our blueprints. The coaches can keep innovating, and come the end of the home and away they will know our best match plans and match ups.

Team balance is very important KM 

Get one  tall too many and we will flounder if it is wet.

[kev martin 10,409]

24 minutes ago, 58er said:

Team balance is very important KM 

Get one  tall too many and we will flounder if it is wet.

I just feel we can experiment a bit.

The backline is strong, we are not relying on perfection from the mids or fwds. So, the balance can appear out of whack but it might come off brilliantly. 

[58er 6,560]

2 minutes ago, kev martin said:

I just feel we can experiment a bit.

The backline is strong, we are not relying on perfection from the mids or fwds. So, the balance can appear out of whack but it might come off brilliantly. 

More likely fail dismally KM

Wr saw what Pruess did in Cairns in the wet!! 

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52 minutes ago, 58er said:

Get one  tall too many and we will flounder if it is wet.

Carlton have been a good marking side, in the back and up fwd.

They will suffer more from the rain (if) then us.

Carlton are rattled until Cripps and Williams fire, although on paper they look pretty good.

Perhaps the buy in isn't there yet.

I didn't know the weather forecast. I'm stuck in thailand till covid fears are finished with.

Our talls did alright in the wet against the Swans.

Edited May 12, 2021 by kev martin

[58er 6,560]

3 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Carlton have been a good marking side, in the back and up fwd.

They will suffer more from the rain (if) then us.

Carlton are rattled until Cripps and Williams fire, although on paper they look pretty good.

Perhaps the buy in isn't there yet.

I didn't know the weather forecast. I'm stuck in thailand till covid fears are finished with.

Our talls did alright in the wet against the Swans.

We have been good in the wet but talls are Risky if it's wet underfoot as against  just a shower or two.

ideally full input should see a team effort and success. 

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5 hours ago, bush demon said:

Majak will be there, mark it. His journey is inspirational and his time will come during the season. Sam's time is now, he is cherry ripe and will seize the the chance to show his wares. 

I'd consider that we have been there, before. Many times, with Sam. Faith says 'yes' for Sam. The head says innovation - so it's Majak for me (rucking strength, marking strength, mobile by nature, kicks well & reliably, good defensively, can play forward or back as well). 

[spalding 1,128]

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Is he not delisted yet..?

I was pleasantly surprised when I saw him in the VFL game v North. He was very competitive in the ruck when Majak was off for the second half, and quite agile and mobile when the ball was on the ground (poor man's LJ!). Remember Max took about 6-7 years in the system (I know there were some significant injuries during that period) biding his time behind Jamar etc before he was ready to take the no1 ruck position. 

I would at least rookie Bradtke for next year (if he's not contracted).

[binman 43,753]

Jackson is not really a key forward as such. More a floating half forward, albeit a tall one. And of course he is taking serious minutes in the ruck

So Daw is really more a like for like replacement. And I reckon he would be a terrific option.

But surely they will go with weed from a player management perspective. Now really a senior player who has worked super hard and by all accounts has handled being in the twos very maturely. Lots of comments from teamates about his team first approach.

And Weed rucked a bit in 2019, both at Casey and in the seniors. And I thought he looked quite a natural ruck. Improved quite a bit through the year and improved his ruck craft.

I thought it strange he didn't ruck st all last season (other than in the forward line). But that may well have been because of his hip issue that he apparently was struggling with.

All that said a forward line of Brown, melksham, friiter and weed really worries me in terms of their collective lack of forward pressure.

Sure weed can lay a hard tackle. But he barely laid any in the second half of last year. And when the ball hits the ground often ball watches and doesn't apply referred pressure. Both issues were evident in the Casey v roos game.

He better bring the heat. 

Edited May 12, 2021 by binman

[Kent 2,914]

2 minutes ago, binman said:

Jackson is not really a key forward as such. More a floating half forward, albeit a tall one. And of course he is taking serious minutes in the ruck

So Daw is really more a like for like replacement. And I reckon he would be a terrific option.

But surely they will go with weed from a player management perspective. Now really a senior player who has worked super hard and by all accounts has handled being in the twos very maturely. Lots of comments from teamates about his team first approach.

And Weed rucked a bit in 2019, both at Casey and in the seniors. And I thought he looked quite a natural ruck. Improved quite a bit through the year and improved his ruck craft.

I thought it strange he didn't ruck st all last season (other than in the forward line). But that may well have been because of his hip issue that he apparently was struggling with.

All that said a forward line of Brown, melksham, friiter and weed really worries me in terms of their collective lack of forward pressure.

Sure weed can lay a hard tackle. But he barely laid any in the second half of last year. And when the ball hits the ground often ball watches and doesn't apply referred pressure. Both issues were evident in the Casey v roos game.

He better bring the heat. 

Agree completely Binman! This is Weids' opportunity He need s to bring a high pressure game and compete in the air, on the ground and physically tackle anything that moves.

If he doesn't then we don't need him and he should be traded. There is no position in this side that doesn't require these attributes

"Come on Sam step it up show us what you have!"

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Goodwin has confirmed that Weideman will come in to replace Jackson.

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1 minute ago, demonstone said:

Goodwin has confirmed that Weideman will come in to replace Jackson.

?

Edited May 12, 2021 by binman

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Confirmed that Weid will be in this week.

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12 minutes ago, binman said:

?

heard goody on 3aw - weid to replace jackson

MODS - can you close thread now?

Edited May 13, 2021 by daisycutter

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12 hours ago, 58er said:

More likely fail dismally KM

Wr saw what Pruess did in Cairns in the wet!! 

Preuss isn’t  playing and we are not, thank the lord, playing in Cairns an hour after a transfer to Brisbane then a 2+ hour flight.