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28 minutes ago, Jaded said:

That was the worst game of the year and the best win. I finally believe that we are serious contenders. Not because we played particularly well, but because we found a way to win and when we got on top we really put the foot down. 
The mark of a good team. Finally. 

100%

Good teams find a way.

Special teams destroy when they get a whiff.

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27 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

He plays next week

We've killed former Captains numerous times over last 2 decades 

The team is obviously happy to take Jonesy to 300 so let's all embrace it!!

I appreciate your loyalty as you obviously appreciate Chunks.

If he plays poorly and we lose will it have been worth it.

Cant we wait until the game after that is all Im saying?

 

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1 minute ago, chook fowler said:

Even though Jackson isn’t tearing games apart he is holding his own in the ruck and getting plenty of ball. He is allowing Max to drift forward and back and is a big factor in Max having a stellar season.

We need to remember that he is only a second year player. I can’t think of a second year ruck playing like Jackson, ever!

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25 minutes ago, kev martin said:

and Hibberd all game,

Great addition to our backline today.

Stepped back in with his old best form. Made a difference considering May is out. Great call by the club.

Yep Rivers did very well too.

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31 minutes ago, Jaded said:

That was the worst game of the year and the best win. I finally believe that we are serious contenders. Not because we played particularly well, but because we found a way to win and when we got on top we really put the foot down. 
The mark of a good team. Finally. 

Without jake levers first half heroics we would have been well behind at half time. Big improvement needed next we to even be competitive.

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35 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Nor should he

That's the role we give him, and when the ball finally rolled forward he converted 

Has to go.

He pkayed 10 mins of goody foory with Weid busting the door down.

Wont be Brown or Tmac.

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27 minutes ago, Jaded said:

That was the worst game of the year and the best win. I finally believe that we are serious contenders. Not because we played particularly well, but because we found a way to win and when we got on top we really put the foot down. 
The mark of a good team. Finally. 

Like you Jaded I believe we are really on the the cusp of being great. I am an oldie who watched the champion Melbourne teams of the 50s. What we saw today in the last quarter was exactly what those champion teams did almost every week. Ground them into the turf. And when did we have a percentage like we have today?  Max Gawn? It's impossible to find words to describe this Hercules. What a champion and inspiration to the team..

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3 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

I appreciate your loyalty as you obviously appreciate Chunks.

If he plays poorly and we lose will it have been worth it.

Cant we wait until the game after that is all Im saying?

 

He is absolutely not the difference between us winning or losing that game. You have an extremely short memory if you don’t think our heart & soul ex Captain doesn’t deserve this game. He was the one reason that I went to the football at times. He deserves this honour ?❤️?❤️

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54 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

We have won 4 in a row against Hawthorn. How the tables have turned.

Now how do we fit Tom Mac, Weideman, Ben Brown, Mitch Brown, Jackson and Fritsch in the forward line?   ;)

We play TMac one the wing, B Brown at FF, Weid at CHF, Jackson second ruck, Fritsch HFF. Best forward half / on ball brigade l can remember in my 50 Years following the Dees. 

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First 3 quarters we worked hard, but again our forward half field kicking and kicking for goal was appalling. Gut-wrenching, foul-language-producing, face-palming kicking that is killing me!

And then, we started hitting targets and kicking goals from everywhere. Not sure what the trigger was, or where the change came from, but very glad it did.

Another great team effort with great team footy to watch. Gawn, Langdon, Lever, Hibbo, Kozzie,. The best thing is we win significant moments. 

Love being 5-0.

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It might have taken us 3 quarters to start kicking goals, but the game turned after quarter time when we tightened up defensively. They kicked half their score in the first quarter, and except for the McEvoy bonus free > goal, only managed one goal a quarter after that.

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Flat and listless for much of the first. No rhythm, no tempo. We allowed the Hawks to drag us down to their level.

Our class and quality told in the end but we’ll get belted next week playing like we did in the first 3 quarters. Too many passengers. I get the emotion but I don’t know if we can carry Jones next week.

Lever and Maxy immense. TMac lifted when we really needed him to. Salem Hibbo Langdon and Kozzie were good. Nice cameo from M Brown but he's replaced next week by either BB or Weid.

Petty found his feet after a shaky first half. He’ll be better for the run. He plays next week.

I’m apprehensive about the Richmond game. May a huge loss down back.

Our conversion simply has to improve. Stoppage work not that good today. Forward pressure was off. Need to work on that this week as Spargs, Nibbler and Kozzie gotta bring the heat next week. Too much spoiling our own marks as well. 

Plenty to review on Monday and work on during the week.

We’ll bank the 4 points and move on. Big big test next week.

Go Dees.

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11 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

I appreciate your loyalty as you obviously appreciate Chunks.

If he plays poorly and we lose will it have been worth it.

Cant we wait until the game after that is all Im saying?

 

Nuh

You are clearly missing the point 

Heart, Symbolism, Momentum,  all mean something 

We haven't lost a game this year with Jonesy playing...?‍♂️

This is a massively important day for the club, and we're  5-0 having worked towards it...

Why get smart and try to change anything! Embrace it and get out there and give it 110%

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7 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Brown was average until after the floodgates opened

Like for like, Brown is the out For another KPF

But he opened the floodgates as melk just help mop up.

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41 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Really don’t think our wingmen need replacing. 

T Mac to the wing and Gus replaces Jordon in the midfield rotation. 

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This reminded me of a game we played against Hawthorn at the end of 2010.

I remember at the time that despite Hawthorn looking much more impressive when they had ball in hand, and that our young blokes not being able to stick a tackle on them, we seemed to be giving them a run for their money. We hung in, and hung in, while blokes like Hodgey, Burgoyne, Mitchell, Jordie, Buddy and Roughy (my gawd they were spoilt weren't they?) were hassled by weedy kids like Trenners, Scully, Gysberts and Cale Morton while flaky vets like Beamer and Col lent a hand. 

By the end, their bigger bodies and nous got them the three goals they needed to get them over the line. It was always the way it was going to be sadly, as our fellas were too callow to challenge a Hawks team destined for bigger and better things.

I am not saying we are comparable to what that Hawthorn team would become, but the script was flipped today. Their younger bodies were up for the fight today, and they pushed, harassed and took the chance they got. They did bloody well for 3 quarters too.

Unfortunately, I saw that when they did apply frontal pressure, our blokes 8 times out of 10 stood up in the tackle and got the ball away. It was always going to come down to a battle of stamina, and we saw how we ran away in the last quarter. They'd used up their petrol tickets, and it was a matter of how much.

Lever was a colossus today. His intercepting, spoiling and reading of the play played a big part in 'rope-a-doping' them (though it wasn't our intention of playing that way in any way!). By the time we got to the last quarter, the amount of energy they had expended getting the ball in there left them vulnerable to us. You could say the same for Max.

I'd also add that Melk showed why he is in the team. Some of his vision was top notch. We had forgotten how much of a vital cog he is in our team as he can pick blokes out where few can spot them.

I am still keeping the lid on. Next week, we go in underdogs, and I like that. BBB coming back in is something I like the sounds of.

Enjoy the win, kiddies. 

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11 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Nuh

You are clearly missing the point 

Heart, Symbolism, Momentum,  all mean something 

We haven't lost a game this year with Jome playing...?‍♂️

This is a massively important day for the club, and we're  5-0 having worked towards it...

Why get smart and try to change anything! Embrace it and get out there and give it 110%

So your argument he has some kind of Mascot and lucky charm about him.

Saying its important is not an argument.. .Its because its important at 5 zip.. I put it out there. 

The point I was making which I think you actually overlooked is quite simple..

IS he our best 22?

Yea sure he has heart. Symbolism..lost me there.

I just want us to be 6 zero thats the symbolism i want.

On his current form I dont think he has been in the best 22 for a while.

Is it important for the big 300. YES.

Whats the rush is the point Mr Mullet?

 

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8 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

Flat and listless for much of the first. No rhythm, no tempo. We allowed the Hawks to drag us down to their level.

Our class and quality told in the end but we’ll get belted next week playing like we did in the first 3 quarters. Too many passengers. I get the emotion but I don’t know if we can carry Jones next week.

Lever and Maxy immense. TMac lifted when we really needed him to. Salem Hibbo Langdon and Kozzie were good. Nice cameo from M Brown but he's replaced next week by either BB or Weid.

Petty found his feet after a shaky first half. He’ll be better for the run. He plays next week.

I’m apprehensive about the Richmond game. May a huge loss down back.

Our conversion simply has to improve. Stoppage work not that good today. Forward pressure was off. Need to work on that this week as Spargs, Nibbler and Kozzie gotta bring the heat next week. Too much spoiling our own marks as well. 

Plenty to review on Monday and work on during the week.

We’ll bank the 4 points and move on. Big big test next week.

Go Dees.

I agree with most of this, I just don’t think we were flat and listless though. Our defensive structures were broken in the first quarter and better but with fumbles in the second. Probably not surprising when we lose both may and Jetta but it wasn’t just the back 6, we weren’t folding back quickly enough and they were able to link and kick without a lot of pressure.

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