On 13/04/2021 at 22:41, Win4theAges said:

Well in Langers great interview, Clarry and Trac can't be tagged they made O'connor crap the bed on Sunday.

yep, I loved when Dermie said after the game - When O'Conner went to Petracca, he didnt even realise he was being tagged!  Is that a mozzie on me??

  On 13/04/2021 at 22:35, Altona-demon said:

The combination of the surfer bros Hunt and Langdon is a generational joy to watch.  Hunts dare and speed puts your heart in your throat, and Langdon's endeavour is an example to the entire team on effort.  And now he is more settled in the team culture you can see that starting to disseminate across the team

I too am loving the apparent synergy between Langdon and Hunt. I’m of the opinion that Langdon, in no small part, is responsible for Hunt’s turnaround in form.  Maybe an early call, but I haven’t seen a pairing like that since Cameron Bruce and Brad Green helped take us to a GF in 2000.

Edited April 14, 20214 yr by hardtack

  On 13/04/2021 at 23:14, Clint Bizkit said:

Huge indictment, but better late than never.

Sometimes you wonder if they are watching the same game as us in outer! 

I hadn’t seen much of Mr Ed play at The Shockers 

I had no idea the Bloke was in this elite category 

Or has he gone up a level?

Robbie Flower and Stan Alves played the wing like Langers

They owned it

  On 13/04/2021 at 22:29, Kent said:

So they now need to Tag Him, Oliver and Petracca Impossible task for any opposition coach

This is a good point.  The problem for oppo teams is that a traditional tagger can't run with Langdon, and so would need a couple of them to lock him down in bursts.

Not achievable.

  On 13/04/2021 at 23:53, DubDee said:

yep, I loved when Dermie said after the game - When O'Conner went to Petracca, he didnt even realise he was being tagged!  Is that a mozzie on me??

This reflects Dermies comment the prvious game against GWS about Oliver's tag.

Dermie sees tags as a compliment and just another player to beat, which is the mindset he suggested Oliver could take on. He said Olivers eilite enough to just play through the problem.  Seems for certain Petracca is.

Olivers performamnce on Satuarday, still with Cats hanging off him at clearances suggest he might have takne this approach.

  On 14/04/2021 at 01:51, Sir Why You Little said:

I hadn’t seen much of Mr Ed play at The Shockers 

I had no idea the Bloke was in this elite category 

Or has he gone up a level?

Robbie Flower and Stan Alves played the wing like Langers

They owned it

5th in Freo B&F in 2019 and 4th in 2018. 

  On 14/04/2021 at 02:30, Dannyz said:

5th in Freo B&F in 2019 and 4th in 2018. 

We dealt very well to get him for what we paid. 

mr ed is definitely in my favourite player list

i just feel so comfortable whenever he is in the play. hardly anyone can lay a glove on him. never loses his footing.

  On 13/04/2021 at 15:03, chook fowler said:

There it is. Proof of the importance of Choco in our form turnaround. 30 minutes a day on improving kicking compared to zero previously. A master stroke getting him to the Club. 

The only justification I can think of for not having a focus on kicking previously might be that there were so many other even worse deficiencies to concentrate on. Fitness levels is one that comes to mind.   

  On 14/04/2021 at 02:35, PaulRB said:

We dealt very well to get him for what we paid. 

Remarkable dealing with peter Bell that we got a good deal...

  On 14/04/2021 at 02:40, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The only justification I can think of for not having a focus on kicking previously might be that there were so many other even worse deficiencies to concentrate on. Fitness levels is one that comes to mind.   

Thats a joke if so

Halfway through the last quarter Mitch Duncan receives the ball in open space & starts running it towards Geelong's forward line. Langdon gives him 25 metres start and is no hope of catching him. But he puts on the jets & bloody near gets him just as Duncan takes his kick.

I thought that summed Langdon up. Unconditional effort given no matter what.

  On 13/04/2021 at 21:37, Cards13 said:

I’d love to know if there is a team based % of game time played type stat.

Someone mentioned on here recently that there is a huge benefit by having guys like Langers, Gawn etc playing 90 - 100% of game time as it allows the other more explosive players more rest, I think it would be great to see if there is any correlation in that thought. 

Yep. Go to afl.com.au into the MFC matches and the player stats. It's there for every player for every game. ToG%.   Makes for very interesting reading. I was checking it out last year and noticed how Viney's time was down compared to other midfielders. Bit the same this year. I suspect he's being managed for the rest of his career. His stat's are amazing when you see that he plays less game time than the other top midfielders. It also probably tells a bit of a story on how they are managing players loads week to week. For instance Lingers game time was down after the 100% Saints game. There's sure to be a lot of science around that stat. 

  On 14/04/2021 at 02:40, daisycutter said:

mr ed is definitely in my favourite player list

i just feel so comfortable whenever he is in the play. hardly anyone can lay a glove on him. never loses his footing.

You've highlighted something that pretty much applied across the board against the Cats, our players were much better at keeping their feet.

  On 13/04/2021 at 15:03, chook fowler said:

There it is. Proof of the importance of Choco in our form turnaround. 30 minutes a day on improving kicking compared to zero previously. A master stroke getting him to the Club. 

Agreed, it's wonderful and makes a great change. However, it has been recognised by DL contributors for years, and years, and years as a necessary matter for improvement and accuracy. Why it was not attended to in the recent and longer-term past is beyond belief (correct me if I am wrong, but it is FOOTball, is it not?).

Both Chocko and Yze must be responsible and I include Yze in this as he was a far better kick himself than Chocko ever was.

Yet another highlighted area of supporter concern, that had been largely ignored, is passing. Wonder what is next? Exciting times are ahead...

 

  On 14/04/2021 at 03:58, TRIGON said:

You've highlighted something that pretty much applied across the board against the Cats, our players were much better at keeping their feet.

Pity about them not keeping their fists and elbows in check, as well.

  On 14/04/2021 at 02:30, Dannyz said:

5th in Freo B&F in 2019 and 4th in 2018. 

That is what made Tulip and Stan so effective - they owned the territory to which they were assigned  - and no other player was welcome. Both could run to where they wanted to play the ball - and did so impreccably. 

  On 14/04/2021 at 00:20, hardtack said:

I too am loving the apparent synergy between Langdon and Hunt. I’m of the opinion that Langdon, in no small part, is responsible for Hunt’s turnaround in form.  Maybe an early call, but I haven’t seen a pairing like that since Cameron Bruce and Brad Green helped take us to a GF in 2000.

Those two are good mates. Definitely helping them enjoy their footy

  On 14/04/2021 at 02:22, Demon17 said:

This is a good point.  The problem for oppo teams is that a traditional tagger can't run with Langdon, and so would need a couple of them to lock him down in bursts.

Not achievable.

I also see this in our 'yet to be implemented new forward line' with BB and Fritta, Weid and MB, and including the larger untaggable Majak Daw (if used up front correctly). An absolute nightmare for any opposition teams to tag or 'cover', particularly as this brigade and improving and fresh smalls is also creating havoc on the good side of the midfield. Canardly wait!

 

  On 14/04/2021 at 04:17, godees said:

Those two are good mates. Definitely helping them enjoy their footy

Never forget the Bruce/Green connection ... a prime example of the 'best' combo for several years.

  On 13/04/2021 at 22:27, Webber said:

I was sitting ground level, southern wing on Sunday, so had a close-up experience of Ed Langdon’s game. What struck me, other than the sheer mileage and fluidity of his running, was his absolute calm command. Even in the tighter keepings-off type stuff that happens near the boundary, he’s never panicked, always seems to know how he’s going to create best effect with his disposal and positioning, and executes brilliantly. He’s right there with Alves, Tingay and of course Flower as a pure winger, a joy to watch, and the kind of player who makes our game. 

Alves, Robbie and Stingar were elite, well above what we see now. I do feel that Langdon is getting there rather quickly now, just a little more success to come.

 

  On 14/04/2021 at 02:26, Demon17 said:

This reflects Dermies comment the prvious game against GWS about Oliver's tag.

Dermie sees tags as a compliment and just another player to beat, which is the mindset he suggested Oliver could take on. He said Olivers eilite enough to just play through the problem.  Seems for certain Petracca is.

Olivers performamnce on Satuarday, still with Cats hanging off him at clearances suggest he might have takne this approach.

I thought Oliver dealt with the tag beautifully on Sunday . He took O’Connor well away from the circle, then pushed off him to the contest instead of being clogged in at the tap, so not being held in at the contest. And as someone else has noted, hit the contest at speed. Do I detect a growth in football IQ in the lad? 

I didn't know Ed Langdon could talk. I've never seen him in an interview before. He continues to impress.

  On 14/04/2021 at 01:51, Sir Why You Little said:

I hadn’t seen much of Mr Ed play at The Shockers 

I had no idea the Bloke was in this elite category 

Or has he gone up a level?

Robbie Flower and Stan Alves played the wing like Langers

They owned it

He was a good player for Freo. His 2019 was very good in fact. He was about explode towards the end of that season. 

I thought his 2020 was a step backwards for him but the whole 2020 year was a nightmare for many players. 

His improved kicking and the consistent impact on games this year  has taken him to the level he looked like he was close too at the dockers. 

 

 

 

 

 

  On 14/04/2021 at 04:10, Deemania since 56 said:

Pity about them not keeping their fists and elbows in check, as well.

Yes Deemaniac

Having watched the replay Hawkins tried to line up Salem with a lifted elbow later in the Game

He has form and it should have been looked at in the May case