Kye Declase Invited to Train

[Tarax Club 3,888]

In the D land of make believe looks like a classic "smokey".

According to the online Dictionary of Australian Slang there are two possible interpretations.

Smokey

Smokey: translation

1. marijuana dried and prepared for smoking;

2. horse (substitute player) whose form has been kept secret; rort horse

Of course 'punters' can make there own choices; but it appears that Chocco in the Harry Strang role has masterminded the late switch here.

ps. Kye will indubitably appreciate the billiard like surface of Casey Fields comparative to the Montmorency minefield of past performances. But he may need to select cruise control and set the alarm clock for the long limo journey from the outer northern 'burbs to the far southeastern commuter belt.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Tarax Club
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[george_on_the_outer 7,571]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

I’m trying to understand the logic behind this move at such a late stage. I’m assuming in December they were comfortable with the list composition and just wanted to give the young guys a look.

Because we now are 4 players short on our list, with the 2 list gaps and now Neitschke and Hore out for the season.  They have had a good look at Deakyn Smith and Farmer....perhaps they have decided they won't be offered a spot. 

Better to look at further options, even if Smith and Farmer get spots, we still have 2 holes to fill. 

Edited March 2, 2021 by george_on_the_outer

[DeeSpencer 25,472]

9 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Because we now are 4 players short on our list, with the 2 list gaps and now Neitschke and Hore out for the season.  They have had a good look at Deakyn Smith and Farmer....perhaps they have decided they won't be offered a spot. 

Better to look at further options, even if Smith and Farmer get spots, we still have 2 holes to fill. 

We’ve had 3 gaps for a while now though, and surely they’ve had a read on Farmer and Smith for a fair period of that time. I understand bringing Majak in as a flexible tall to cover the key forward injuries.

I’m more surprised that they want to give an ok VFL player a look for 1 week - not long enough to really evaluate - on the back of an injury to a guy who was unlikely to play seniors anyway. 

[defuture15 898]

Looks like a weideman type. At 24 he would be worth looking at. Majak may be Casey bound this year.

[58er 6,391]

Just now, defuture15 said:

Looks like a weideman type. At 24 he would be worth looking at. Majak may be Casey bound this year.

To mobile and flexible for Weid type. Runs freer and is far more versatile.

[titan_uranus 24,974]

29 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

We’ve had 3 gaps for a while now though, and surely they’ve had a read on Farmer and Smith for a fair period of that time. I understand bringing Majak in as a flexible tall to cover the key forward injuries.

I’m more surprised that they want to give an ok VFL player a look for 1 week - not long enough to really evaluate - on the back of an injury to a guy who was unlikely to play seniors anyway. 

Agree, the timing makes little sense to me.

I can't see Declase being an alternative to Daw and I can't see how Nietschke going down motivated us to go look at Declase.

I suppose could be a retrospective admission that our list was unbalanced and the Nietschke/Hore injuries are giving us the chance to re-balance it?

[JTR 2,846]

3 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Guessing there is a game for those not playing at Marvel also being played on Monday?

I'd be interested in going along if thats the case and spectators allowed. Otherwise, I hope its streamed like last week.

[Gator 17,278]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

We’ve had 3 gaps for a while now though, and surely they’ve had a read on Farmer and Smith for a fair period of that time. I understand bringing Majak in as a flexible tall to cover the key forward injuries.

I’m more surprised that they want to give an ok VFL player a look for 1 week - not long enough to really evaluate - on the back of an injury to a guy who was unlikely to play seniors anyway. 

In an interview in 2019 with ex Demon Jack Fitzpatrick Kye says his best position is the wing.

That said, I don't take much notice of those types of player comments, albeit I thought it was interesting.  

He certainly seems flexible from a positional point of view.

[DeeSpencer 25,472]

43 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Agree, the timing makes little sense to me.

I can't see Declase being an alternative to Daw and I can't see how Nietschke going down motivated us to go look at Declase.

I suppose could be a retrospective admission that our list was unbalanced and the Nietschke/Hore injuries are giving us the chance to re-balance it?

Could be, maybe the biggest take away from Friday’s games was Casey is light on and sure could do with some class.

4 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

In an interview in 2019 with ex Demon Jack Fitzpatrick Kye says his best position is the wing.

That said, I don't take much notice of those types of player comments, albeit I thought it was interesting.  

He certainly seems flexible from a positional point of view.

Good find. I’m all for cycling through as many players as we can to find the answer on the wing. His VFL stats show a lot of handball receives, decent possession totals and about a goal a game. That could be indicative of a winger. 

[Gator 17,278]

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Could be, maybe the biggest take away from Friday’s games was Casey is light on and sure could do with some class.

Good find. I’m all for cycling through as many players as we can to find the answer on the wing. His VFL stats show a lot of handball receives, decent possession totals and about a goal a game. That could be indicative of a winger. 

And it was Mark Williams playing him on the wing in 2019 for Werribee, although I don't believe he started the season there.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Hannibal Inc.

[dee-tox 4,835]

A 24-year old, 195cm mature wingman that is good overhead. Sounds like the club have identified a pressing need!

[John Demonic 5,749]

15 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

A 24-year old, 195cm mature wingman that is good overhead. Sounds like the club have identified a pressing need!

How long would he need in the system/doing a preseason before, with form permitting, he gets a senior call up?

I agree that the wing is definitely a pressing need if Baker is merely 'ok' in a few cameos but will go missing, other players are shifted out of their best position to accommodate or if Rosman will need a year or two learning the craft.

 

 

 

 

[Turner 1,507]

5 hours ago, poita said:

I'd much rather take a punt on a tall than yet another dwarf-sized forward.

was it not this time last year where we were screaming out for anyone under 180cm to do something in the forward half? and now you're complaining that we've looked at too many?

20 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

A 24-year old, 195cm mature wingman that is good overhead. Sounds like the club have identified a pressing need!

a non t.mcdonald need. whether we intended to use him on a wing but the lack of KF means he's there now so we need someone for the near side with tomlinson going back is the case? or as a backup to lever as an interceptor without hore? who knows but i think it's a good sized addition to the list

[Turner 1,507]

1 minute ago, John Demonic said:

How long would he need in the system/doing a preseason before, with form permitting, he gets a senior call up?

I agree that the wing is definitely a pressing need if Baker is merely 'ok' in a few cameos but will go missing, other players are shifted out of their best position to accommodate or if Rosman will need a year or two learning the craft.

lockhart took 12 days ?‍♂️

[dee-tox 4,835]

Just now, John Demonic said:

How long would he need in the system/doing a preseason before, with form permitting, he gets a senior call up?

I agree that the wing is definitely a pressing need if Baker is merely 'ok' in a few cameos but will go missing, other players are shifted out of their best position to accommodate or if Rosman will need a year or two learning the craft.

 

 

 

 

You never know I guess. Unlikely that he can come in straight away. AFL fitness is a massive step up.

Then again there are a few cases of VFL players making the step albeit with a full preseason!

[rjay 24,886]

35 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Could be, maybe the biggest take away from Friday’s games was Casey is light on and sure could do with some class.

Good find. I’m all for cycling through as many players as we can to find the answer on the wing. His VFL stats show a lot of handball receives, decent possession totals and about a goal a game. That could be indicative of a winger. 

 

31 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

And it was Mark Williams playing him on the wing in 2019 for Werribee, although I don't believe he started the season there.

With Baker as the other option I can understand why we are still looking...

[John Demonic 5,749]

1 minute ago, rjay said:

 

With Baker as the other option I can understand why we are still looking...

The Isaac Smith trade will probably end up being a far bigger miss that some on here are prepared to admit, when we see him feeding off the cats mids this year.

[JAG001 83]

I think this is to keep Choco happy, he has probably been pushing for this guy since he arrived at the Dees.

[Biffen 12,940]

This could pan out well.

My sauce tells me he could add some flavour to the mix.

[58er 6,391]

1 hour ago, JAG001 said:

I think this is to keep Choco happy, he has probably been pushing for this guy since he arrived at the Dees.

Is that your Real view or are you just being mischievous?

[Half forward flank 1,022]

1 hour ago, JAG001 said:

I think this is to keep Choco happy, he has probably been pushing for this guy since he arrived at the Dees.

Keep williams happy. Knows more about footy than Goodwin.

[58er 6,391]

2 hours ago, John Demonic said:

The Isaac Smith trade will probably end up being a far bigger miss that some on here are prepared to admit, when we see him feeding off the cats mids this year.

What is he playing up forward now ? Thought he was recruited by Cats for his run and penetration from the wing to kick to the forwards  !!

Thats what  We were after when we were after him I am certain.

I think you are vastly overplaying his role and  he is already injured.

While Rosman was ordinary last Friday I have faith he is the right recruit fir this time as we will get a decade of excellence from him on the MCG wing and occasionally cameoing up forward.

I look  forward  to him being There as one of our best when we get that 13 th flag. There is no guarantee Smith would have been.

[Deemania since 56 6,608]

2 hours ago, JAG001 said:

I think this is to keep Choco happy, he has probably been pushing for this guy since he arrived at the Dees.

He does look adept amongst his peers in the highlights reel. He is very young and possibly very trainable. With new coaches about, we must surely be focussed on an increase in development of younger players, recruits and more widespread skills and attributes. Perhaps this young fella meets such criteria?

[Earl Hood 6,082]

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

This could pan out well.

My sauce tells me he could add some flavour to the mix.

Have you taken up cooking classes Biff? 

[Demonstone 22,315]

2 hours ago, JAG001 said:

I think this is to keep Choco happy,

Ludicrous suggestion.  As if they'd ask somebody to train with us if they didn't think he could offer something to the team.  I just can't believe we or any professional outfit would do that just keep an Assistant Coach "happy".