TRAINING: Monday 22nd February 2021

[jnrmac 20,061]

On 2/22/2021 at 2:14 PM, DubDee said:

I reckon Bowey could well line up in our defensive 7 in the early rounds.  we need speed, kicking skills and decision making and he seems to have those

But shirley Hunt plays fwd. especially with Melk and others injured

Hunt is playing half back

[daisycutter 29,614]

49 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I feel for the umpires. How can they be expected to intepret two contradictory statements? How does "minimal lateral movement" not contradict the next line which (in effect) says a defending player moving off the mark in any direction will lead to a 50-metre penalty?

strictly speaking "mimimal" would have to be the smallest possible observable measurement

scratch your ear and bang, 50m

oh and does jumping up in the air count as "moving in any direction"

Edited February 23, 2021 by daisycutter

[DubDee 25,860]

41 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Hunt is playing half back

Right now?

[dworship 3,342]

7 hours ago, Matt Demon said:

I haven't heard anything from the club but every year when games roll around the training schedule changes. I'm just trying to look out for ppl who want to drive out to Casey. 

So that was a yes, you're guessing and that's not helpful and in fact leads you to being ridiculed when you get it wrong. I'm just trying to look after you so you don't have to suffer the ire of the community here.

[dworship 3,342]

6 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Well maybe you should understand the rule that would be a start before you post and have pot shots,

I. The subject was being discussed in the thread.

2. You are allowed to move on the mark Jumping up and down is allowed you cannot encroach or move sideways or any other movement.

AFL website gee maybe they have not spoken to you that's being nice.

The Commission has accepted the following game adjustments ahead of the 2021 Toyota AFL Premiership Season:

1 / A maximum of 75 total player interchanges per match
Rotations will decrease from 90 per match in 2020 to 75 per match in 2021. Each team will continue to be permitted four interchange players.

2 / Player Standing The Mark
The defending Player will only be permitted minimal lateral movement on The Mark. If the defending player moves off The Mark in any direction prior to "Play On" being called, a 50-metre penalty will apply. The defensive team is unable to substitute the Player on The Mark.

3 / Location of The Mark at Kick Ins
The Mark shall be set at 15 metres from the centre of the Kick-Off Line towards the centre of the ground at Kick Ins. This was previously set at 10 metres.

I feel suitably chastised. I was feeling particularly pithy at the time. It was good of you to weigh in and pull me up.

With regard to the Standing the Mark quote; it says "only permitted minimal lateral movement on the Mark" can you confirm that that's what the new rule actually says, as opposed to the media release?

[skills32 229]

9 hours ago, dee-tox said:

This is a big call! What have trackwatchers seen that justifies this?

Just playing devil's advocate, he was drafted on virtually no exposed TAC Cup form although he apparently did well in pre-season practice matches leading up to the cancelled competition.

What we know is he is an amazing athlete, that he is decent overhead and has an awkward kicking action. What other traits make him a round one starter?

I sometimes wonder if fans forget how difficult it is for anyone, let alone teenagers, to make that transition from underage football to the big time...

 

Much the same position Clayton was in. eh!

[picket fence 17,166]

6 hours ago, daisycutter said:

haven't seen a definition of "minimal lateral movement"

what is so hard about defining it more precisely?

Agree WTF constitutes that

MADNESS FROM AFL

[dworship 3,342]

27 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Agree WTF constitutes that

MADNESS FROM AFL

"minimal lateral movement"  I'm not sure the "Rule" says this at all. Demon3165 has quoted this from a news item apparently on the AFL website I've asked if he can verify that's actually the rule but haven't received a reply yet.

We could also go back to the start of this thread where JnrMac stated;

"The AFL has warned in briefings to clubs that even the slightest movement to the left or right from the man on the mark will incur an immediate 50m penalty".

I hesitate to call it "fake news" because I don't want to be ridiculed again but there is a chance it is as said.

Edited February 23, 2021 by dworship
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[dee-tox 4,835]

1 hour ago, skills32 said:

Much the same position Clayton was in. eh!

Ah, no!

Clayton Oliver won a Morrish Medal!

Redman  played two pretty ordinary TAC Cup games at the end of 2019.

[58er 6,435]

3 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Ah, no!

Clayton Oliver won a Morrish Medal!

Redman  played two pretty ordinary TAC Cup games at the end of 2019.

For a:start I am surmising Fraser put on about 10 kg and grew 5 cm in height last year and is now got a mans physique and Confidence to go with it. It doesn't  matter what he did in 2019  It what he does now on the track and I the practice games.

If ever a recruit looked Ready  to Play ( and is showing it in attitude and method)  he is the one. Remember who are you going to select on the opposite wing to Langers?? 

Sticks out like a beacon so far this pre season I suggest.

BTW  Chico has torn up or allegedly burnt our 3 n ew recruits Birth Certs. That's how important age and experience are to him With  our 2020 draftees!!!

[Matt Demon 1,418]

9 hours ago, dworship said:

So that was a yes, you're guessing and that's not helpful and in fact leads you to being ridiculed when you get it wrong. I'm just trying to look after you so you don't have to suffer the ire of the community here.

LOL ?

[forever demons 2,220]

If we have to play any of the 3 kids in the first round it doesn''t say much for our list

[demon3165 2,718]

11 hours ago, dworship said:

I feel suitably chastised. I was feeling particularly pithy at the time. It was good of you to weigh in and pull me up.

With regard to the Standing the Mark quote; it says "only permitted minimal lateral movement on the Mark" can you confirm that that's what the new rule actually says, as opposed to the media release?

All cool we have those days, those quotes are from the afl website search on the sites standing on the mark then statement regarding rule changes. 

 

[Meggs 595]

On 2/22/2021 at 10:58 PM, demon3165 said:

...the way whiskers keeps coming up with rule changes...

Are you suggesting Gary is coming up with these rule ideas and advising his brother Steve at AFL house?  Buddha was Whiskers temporarily in 1999.

[Clintosaurus 7,845]

13 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

All cool we have those days, those quotes are from the afl website search on the sites standing on the mark then statement regarding rule changes. 

 

Or this from Twitter

 

[demon3165 2,718]

45 minutes ago, Meggs said:

Are you suggesting Gary is coming up with these rule ideas and advising his brother Steve at AFL house?  Buddha was Whiskers temporarily in 1999.

Six of one half a dozen from the other same handbag club same ideas.....

[dino rover 714]

stupid and pedantic rule designed the make minding the mark pretty meaningless and ineffectual

what is broke that needed fixing anyway?

[sue 9,104]

1 hour ago, dino rover said:

stupid and pedantic rule designed the make minding the mark pretty meaningless and ineffectual

what is broke that needed fixing anyway?

Lack of advertising slots.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

1 hour ago, dino rover said:

stupid and pedantic rule designed the make minding the mark pretty meaningless and ineffectual

what is broke that needed fixing anyway?

We know the answer to this. What we don't know is whether this rule change will fix it. The AFL has been quite clear that it is concerned with the low level of scoring in games. Whether that concern is for the aesthetic of the product or because fewer goals means fewer advertisments on TV (leading to less valuable TV rights) is less clear.

Edited February 24, 2021 by La Dee-vina Comedia

[DubDee 25,860]

6 hours ago, forever demons said:

If we have to play any of the 3 kids in the first round it doesn''t say much for our list

Lucky for Port they didn't take this attitude.  Age is irrelevant, if they are ready, bring them in.  Especially the quick, little fellas can have a big impact from the go

[Sydee 4,429]

6 hours ago, forever demons said:

If we have to play any of the 3 kids in the first round it doesn''t say much for our list

Last time I checked our list isn't performing that well - if the newbies are good enough, fit enough and hungrier for success then I'm all for replacing some of those who seem comfortable with going through the motions 

[forever demons 2,220]

13 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Last time I checked our list isn't performing that well - if the newbies are good enough, fit enough and hungrier for success then I'm all for replacing some of those who seem comfortable with going through the motions 

Can't see why any player would be just going through the motionsbut if so then i agree with you

[forever demons 2,220]

32 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Lucky for Port they didn't take this attitude.  Age is irrelevant, if they are ready, bring them in.  Especially the quick, little fellas can have a big impact from the go

Expectations placed to early on these young blokes can be soul destroying,we have been down this path before.Eg Hogan who i think was played to early,mature body immature brain,hugh expectations on him and we all know that ended tears and of course watts

[TRIGON 4,783]

On 2/23/2021 at 7:30 AM, buck_nekkid said:

That’s why Browne reported a hammy!

"Dad Joke Alert"  it's now the Year of the Ox so shouldn't he have pulled a calf?

I will see myself out...sharply!

[forever demons 2,220]

9 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

"Dad Joke Alert"  it's now the Year of the Ox so shouldn't he have pulled a calf?

I will see myself out...sharply!

umm