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THE PECKING ORDER

WERRIDEE
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With Jordon getting rookie listed it got me to thinking who are our most important players in order. This is it.

1. Gawn

2. Viney

3. Melksham

4. Lever

5. Petracca

6. May

7. Oliver

8. Langdon

9. Ben.Brown

10. Salem

11. Fritsch

12. Brayshaw

13. Hibberd

14. Weideman

15. Pickett

16. Jackson

17. Rivers

18. Tomlinson

19. Spargo

20. Hunt

21. Baker 

22. Harmes 

23. Sparrow

24. Petty

25. Jones

26. Smith

27. Hore

28. vandenBerg

29. Neal-Bullen

30. McDonald

31. Jetta

32. Lockhart

33. Bedford

34. Draft Pick

35. Draft Pick

36. Draft Pick

37. Draft Pick

38. Mitch.Brown

39. Jordon

40. Chandler

41. Neitschke

42. Bradtke

43. Rookie

 

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    B: HIBBERD, MAY, LEVER

    HB: SALEM, TOMLINSON, RIVERS

    C : LANGDON, BRAYSHAW, PETRACCA

    HF: MELKSHAM, JACKSON, FRITSCH

    F: PICKETT, B.BROWN, WEIDEMAN

    FOLL: GAWN, OLIVER, VINEY

    IC: SPARGO, HUNT, BAKER, HARMES

     

    CASEY

    B: LOCKHART, SMITH, JETTA

    HB: CHANDLER, HORE, DRAFT PICK

    C : VANDENBERG, JONES, DRAFT PICK

    HF: NEAL-BULLEN, PETTY, DRAFT PICK

    F: BEDFORD, M.BROWN, DRAFT PICK 

    FOLL: MCDONALD, SPARROW, JORDON

    IC: NEITSCHKE, BRADTKE, ROOKIE

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    If you think that Melksham ranks higher in terms of importance to the team than May, Petracca or Oliver, you might be on your own brother.

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    Lever would be well down the pecking order. 

    Yet to do much at mfc.  Injury free 2020.  3rd year at the club.  No excuses.

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      On 02/12/2020 at 21:05, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Lever would be well down the pecking order. 

    Yet to do much at mfc.  Injury free 2020.  3rd year at the club.  No excuses.

    We paid far too much for Lever and his reputation (based on his 2017 season) exceeds his on field performance.

    Frost at Hawthorn was just as good as Lever this year.

    However, Lever's ability to position himself and take a clutch mark in close games is impressive and important. 

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    Melksham must incriminating have photos of @Werridee, like he does of Goody.

    Keeping him out of the side is very important for our chances next year

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      On 02/12/2020 at 21:15, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    We paid far too much for Lever and his reputation (based on his 2017 season) exceeds his on field performance.

    Frost at Hawthorn was just as good as Lever this year.

    However, Lever's ability to position himself and take a clutch mark in close games is impressive and important. 

    Perhaps but the 4th most important player in the pecking order?  Ahead of Petracca, Oliver, May, Lamgdon, B. Brown?  Not for mine.

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      On 02/12/2020 at 21:50, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Perhaps but the 4th most important player in the pecking order?  Ahead of Petracca, Oliver, May, Lamgdon, B. Brown?  Not for mine.

    100% agreement from me LH.

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      On 02/12/2020 at 21:43, BW511 said:

    Melksham must incriminating have photos of @Werridee, like he does of Goody.

    Keeping him out of the side is very important for our chances next year

    Melksham (at his best) in 2018 was very important to how well we played and our set up of attack on the score board. Not the be-all, and end-all of that campaign, but important. Cant live in the past however so if he can get that back (with what is hopefully a reasonably normal 2021 season), that is huge for us. If not, he must be dropped and other players provided ample opportunity to shine. 

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    Respect the list and good on you for having a go..  No way Petracca is 5th most important player, he is number 1, then Oliver, then May, then Gawn then Ben Brown.

    But we all see it differently.

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      On 02/12/2020 at 15:39, WERRIDEE said:

    With Jordon getting rookie listed it got me to thinking who are our most important players in order. This is it.

    1. Gawn

    2. Viney

    3. Melksham

    4. Lever

    5. Petracca

    6. May

    7. Oliver

    8. Langdon

    9. Ben.Brown

    10. Salem

    11. Fritsch

    12. Brayshaw

    13. Hibberd

    14. Weideman

    15. Pickett

    16. Jackson

    17. Rivers

    18. Tomlinson

    19. Spargo

    20. Hunt

    21. Baker 

    22. Harmes 

    23. Sparrow

    24. Petty

    25. Jones

    26. Smith

    27. Hore

    28. vandenBerg

    29. Neal-Bullen

    30. McDonald

    31. Jetta

    32. Lockhart

    33. Bedford

    34. Draft Pick

    35. Draft Pick

    36. Draft Pick

    37. Draft Pick

    38. Mitch.Brown

    39. Jordon

    40. Chandler

    41. Neitschke

    42. Bradtke

    43. Rookie

     

    Thanks Werridee. Very interesting and a great thought - starter.

    Just could you clarify is someone's position on the list is due to their importance to the team if they played their role correctly, or is it becuase of their talent, latent or otherwise.

     

    for example, I don't think Viney is near No. 2 but you might think if he played to his ability and in his best role, he is the number 2 in team value? Thus why is Lever higher than MAy - because of his intercept acpability which you value more highly than May's lockdown ability?

    Can you expand?

    Thanks

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    Are we talking the most important players playing at top form for us to get deep into finals or just best players.  To me we need the below players at their absolute best for us to be a contender in 2021

    Petracca

    Gawn

    May

    Brown

    Tmac/Weiderman

    Lever

    Oliver

    Brayshaw

    Salem

    Fritsch

    Hibberd

    Viney

    Melksham

    Langdon

    If these group of players can bring their best football on a consistent basis we can go deep into September.  The others that will make up the 22 will lift if these guys play well.  TMac/Weiderman I combined as I see that second tall forward roll an extremely Vital role, one of these guys need to step up.  I expect Jackson to be more a mobile forward second ruck rather that a key forward.

    My list is based on players we need at their best to contend.  Vital that our 2 key defenders and key forwards take control, if we cant step up in these key roles we will struggle

     

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      On 02/12/2020 at 23:34, Pickett2Jackson said:

    1. Petracca

    2. Oliver

    3.  May

    4.  Gawn

    5. Ben Brown

     

    Huge gap after that

    Snap.

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      On 02/12/2020 at 22:45, Demon3 said:

    Respect the list and good on you for having a go..  No way Petracca is 5th most important player, he is number 1, then Oliver, then May, then Gawn then Ben Brown.

    But we all see it differently.

     

      On 02/12/2020 at 23:34, Pickett2Jackson said:

    1. Petracca

    2. Oliver

    3.  May

    4.  Gawn

    5. Ben Brown

     

    Huge gap after that

     

    I swear I had not seen your post D3.  Amazing haha

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      On 02/12/2020 at 23:49, Pickett2Jackson said:

     

     

    I swear I had not seen your post D3.  Amazing haha

    haha.. i believe you.. the only thing i didnt put in was the daylight line.. and i almost did!!

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      On 02/12/2020 at 15:39, WERRIDEE said:

    With Jordon getting rookie listed it got me to thinking who are our most important players in order. This is it.

    1. Gawn

    2. Viney

    3. Melksham

    4. Lever

    5. Petracca

    6. May

    7. Oliver

    8. Langdon

    9. Ben.Brown

    10. Salem

    11. Fritsch

    12. Brayshaw

    13. Hibberd

    14. Weideman

    15. Pickett

    16. Jackson

    17. Rivers

    18. Tomlinson

    19. Spargo

    20. Hunt

    21. Baker 

    22. Harmes 

    23. Sparrow

    24. Petty

    25. Jones

    26. Smith

    27. Hore

    28. vandenBerg

    29. Neal-Bullen

    30. McDonald

    31. Jetta

    32. Lockhart

    33. Bedford

    34. Draft Pick

    35. Draft Pick

    36. Draft Pick

    37. Draft Pick

    38. Mitch.Brown

    39. Jordon

    40. Chandler

    41. Neitschke

    42. Bradtke

    43. Rookie

     

    Werridee I agree with the first 23 players just differ on their ranking although I like the make up of your team.

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    As for the rankings 0liver is our most important player. He is durable he is consistent and an accumulator almost. always in the game.      No  disrespect to Gawny , Trac, Vines and May.

    Why is Melksham so highly ranked?

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    Interesting post @WERRIDEE - I love how we all see the playing list in different ways. What I do take from your list, however you look at it, is that we are still probably 2 or 3 strong players short of a consistent Top 4 list. The Casey team looks great, though!

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      On 03/12/2020 at 01:12, nosoupforme said:

    As for the rankings 0liver is our most important player. He is durable he is consistent and an accumulator almost. always in the game.      No  disrespect to Gawny , Trac, Vines and May.

    Why is Melksham so highly ranked?

    No he isn't, Oliver gets the Footy but doesn't really hurt sides.  I would take a 15 touch game from Petracca over a 30+ touch game from Oliver any day of the week.

    Melksham is rated highly on his talent, he is an extremely talented and damaging player we just don't see it consistently enough, if he can delivery it on a regular basis we are winning more games, that is why he is rated as important.  

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    listing one by one is fraught with issues given different opponents and playing conditions.

    I prefer to list in groups of five.

    I doubt that I would have Lever i the top ten. If he was a better kick of the ball post marking he might get there but the constant up and under is frustrating.

    Anyone remember Howe. Spectacular mark. Would get up take 15 seconds plus and give off a lousy kick

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      On 02/12/2020 at 22:15, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Werridee, what's your thinking behind placing Melksham 3rd on your list?

    Melksham and Lever were deputy vice captains so leadership is why they are so high.

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      On 02/12/2020 at 15:39, WERRIDEE said:

    With Jordon getting rookie listed it got me to thinking who are our most important players in order. This is it.

     

    Our most important players is dependent on the opponent we are playing. We need to se the whole squad to win each week.

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