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Farewell Oscar McDonald

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8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Alcoholics Anonymous?

The only disappointment I have is if Carlton knew they were going to lose almost all their tall forwards (Curnow, Casboult, McGovern, De Koning, McKay) to injury they might've taken on Tom.

We could've kept Oscar as he's no better or worse and saved a few hundred thousand.

I said to a mate at the game yesterday that i cannot recall another player, or at least a dees players, dropping so far, in so short a time frame.

In 2018 he came sixth in the Coleman and looked a star.  

Last season he was clearly hampered by injury and was too heavy. Yesterday he looked to be moving better and and has slimmed down but is still living in struggle town.

To be fair he worked hard, but he couldn't take a mark to save himself, has a huge turning circle and his body language was still a bit iffy.

And the opposition coach saw fit to put a baby on him, who on at least one occasion out bodied him and on few occasions ran off him.  

Ironically we are in the same boat as Carlton and need a key forward. Like his brother he has been given an opportunity to reestablish himself. I hope for the dees sake he takes it.

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    9 minutes ago, Nelo said:

    Maybe we got rid of the wrong McDonald. 

    Perhaps with the covid related cuts, someone made a typo?

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    31 minutes ago, binman said:

    I said to a mate at the game yesterday that i cannot recall another player, or at least a dees players, dropping so far, in so short a time frame.

    In 2018 he came sixth in the Coleman and looked a star.  

    Last season he was clearly hampered by injury and was too heavy. Yesterday he looked to be moving better and and has slimmed down but is still living in struggle town.

    To be fair he worked hard, but he couldn't take a mark to save himself, has a huge turning circle and his body language was still a bit iffy.

    Trimming down may help but it's mostly a mental issue with Tom made worse by a bit of technique and not helped by the coaching.

    The first thing I'd do is get him taking a lot more marks at training to sharpen the way he jumps to protect himself with a knee up and keep his hands open and clean. He swallows the ball up in the same way May does rather than crisply grabbing it from the air. 

    Then the next thing I'd do is tell him he's not to jump at the same contest as Gawn. Just stay out of it and save the effort. On kick outs he should lead to the opposite side of Max and give us a different target, and otherwise he should just be out of the way if the big fella is flying. He can run his opponents in to the ground leading out to the flanks and that's how he gets value from his game. He'll get his leads back inside 50 and get some goals from that, he just has contribute enough positives the rest of the time.

    The game against Carlton in 2019 when he had 6 to 3/4 time was amazing when he just recaptured confidence to lead up and went from liability to tremendous asset. 

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    19 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Trimming down may help but it's mostly a mental issue with Tom made worse by a bit of technique and not helped by the coaching.

    The first thing I'd do is get him taking a lot more marks at training to sharpen the way he jumps to protect himself with a knee up and keep his hands open and clean. He swallows the ball up in the same way May does rather than crisply grabbing it from the air. 

    Then the next thing I'd do is tell him he's not to jump at the same contest as Gawn. Just stay out of it and save the effort. On kick outs he should lead to the opposite side of Max and give us a different target, and otherwise he should just be out of the way if the big fella is flying. He can run his opponents in to the ground leading out to the flanks and that's how he gets value from his game. He'll get his leads back inside 50 and get some goals from that, he just has contribute enough positives the rest of the time.

    The game against Carlton in 2019 when he had 6 to 3/4 time was amazing when he just recaptured confidence to lead up and went from liability to tremendous asset. 

    I'd like to see them play him deep, out of the square. That is where they should have played him last year.

    And it is where they will play Brown, so it makes sense for him to take that role whilst Brown is out.

    He can still get up and down the ground, just as Brown did with the Roos, and use his tank but out at CHF his lack of mobility and pace gets exposed.

    And he is not a great contested mark. His marking is much better on the lead or hitting contests at pace and at full forward he will get more chances to take those sort of marks

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    Interesting we've done Oscar out and Majak in.

    I guess Majak has more versatility with the specific injuries he may need to fill in for. 

    Glad to see O Mac get another chance. Hopefully it's a win/win especially if he plays against us. 

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    Guy deserves another shot so it's good to see. Think the Blues were desperate and looking to fill their list but a lifeline is a lifeline, look what they've done with Liam Jones. 

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    Good luck to him, sounds like he earned it. 

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    Crazy to think we never tried him forward. He’s been picked up and first game, looks decent as fwd. 

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    On 3/9/2021 at 10:24 AM, JimmyGadson said:

    On you Oscy.

    Future AA if you ask me.

    On you Stevie.

    You were canning him back in 2017 and he's still on an AFL list.  You got it wrong.  Nobody was saying he's the second coming of David Dench, just a fair role player.  81 games and perhaps more to come.  Back when you were canning him he'd only played a handful.

    You got it wrong bud.  MFC delisted him because we had better backs and another AFL club picked him up.  He's AFL standard, AFL clubs have said so.

    Why don't you have a go with Oliver.  Start saying he finished now and in about 10 years you can beat your chest and say you were the first to see it.

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    On 3/10/2021 at 10:23 AM, Pickett2Jackson said:

    I give it until quarter time of Round 1 for Carlton supporters to be calling for his blood.

    Well that wont be happening

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    Named as emergency. Looking at the blues fwd line, he’d be pretty close to a call up

    despite all the rebuilding the blues line up still looks average

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    1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Seeing people in here talk him up as if we had let a superstar get away lol

    Must have missed those posts.

    Perhaps you can provide some examples.

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    4 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Didnt even get named in the Carlton team for tonight 

    Seeing people in here talk him up as if we had let a superstar get away lol

    He's their only tall emergency.

    Oscar is tall depth at Carlton.  People here talk him up as being a capable AFL player.

    Like Mitch Brown and Majak Daw.

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    I'm not disappointed he is not on our list but good luck to him.

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    Who’s the sub you ask??

    O Mac!

    Let’s hope the blues get multiple serious injuries!!

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    Interesting choice of sub. Not the fact it's Oscar but that they're going with a slow tall. Coaching staff must not have faith in their current talls getting through.

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    34 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Interesting choice of sub. Not the fact it's Oscar but that they're going with a slow tall. Coaching staff must not have faith in their current talls getting through.

    both are coming off injuries last week so it makes sense 

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    O Mac makes history. First ever injury sub. Comes in after half time to replace Sylvani. 

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    4 touches and a goal in 2 mins....

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