not to get ahead of ourselves, but here's an early '22 look. particular interest in the height of ed's first round prospects, great for us with all our talls around the 29-31 bracket

21 minutes ago, Turner said:

not to get ahead of ourselves, but here's an early '22 look. particular interest in the height of ed's first round prospects, great for us with all our talls around the 29-31 bracket

well, apart from the fact that we - currently - don't have a rd 1, '22 pick

9 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

well, apart from the fact that we - currently - don't have a rd 1, '22 pick

Would imagine that we’ll try and grab Brisbane’s pick, Ashcroft will go high and they’ll be looking to bank lower picks.

1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

Would imagine that we’ll try and grab Brisbane’s pick, Ashcroft will go high and they’ll be looking to bank lower picks.

Agree, the F/S at the pointy end of the draft always add a bit of interest as clubs want to trade back.

No doubt clubs will be sniffing around some of our players at the end of next season.

Ed Pascoe has also had a crack at a Phantom Draft. Here’s the first 25 selections:-

… and 26 to 52

Sonsie and Lohmann would be terrific additions. Really excited by Howes & Lohmann in that medium forward group.  Starting to take a shine to Fejo jr, keen for us to have a look in the 40's. A few keen Crow fans believe that the Crows love Rachele and may pounce on him higher up.

Another who was around the 15 to 20 mark coming into '21, but slides because of injury (taken at 35 above) is Cooper Murley. A bit of Zorko about him:

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/cooper-murley/

 

 

Edited October 14, 20214 yr by ChaserJ

On 10/11/2021 at 7:27 AM, Redleg said:

Looking at club lists yesterday and I think we are the club with the least ruck options after our main 2. We don’t have another player over 198 except BB, who is a forward, not a ruckman.

Daw our back up, is 195 and will be 31. I am still surprised they let Bradtke go this year.

Most clubs have 4-5 200cm players who can ruck.

Also we were the worst disposal efficiency club in the AFL this year.

That is an interesting stat for the Premier, as normally you would think the Premier club has pretty clean ball use.

Didn't seem to be any problem of our disposal Redleg when we launched our great 7 goals in 17 mins NOR the 9 goal last quarter crowning glory our best for the season!!!

Snd I saw it live !!! Best Footy by the Mighty Demons  in the 62 years I have been attending matches.

As Daisy (or someone else) said on the commentary "Melbourne are playing that good they can make and clean up their mistakes in the one piece of play".

Perhaps Redleg it's a case where the theory does not match the practice.

Kangas May one day be looking for a positive stats man Please consider joining them and giving yourself a real challenge!!!

4 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

well, apart from the fact that we - currently - don't have a rd 1, '22 pick

We do no 17 !!! 

Just now, 58er said:

We do no 17 !!! 

Sorry that's for 2021 but we have done this for about 6/7 years and look what's been achieved. 

interesting so ed has us bidding on windhager, we do have a history of bids tbf

 

3 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Ed Pascoe has also had a crack at a Phantom Draft. Here’s the first 25 selections:-

Tyler Sonsie will be a  ⭐️
 

That would be Merry Xmas ❤️💙🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻

Imagine if the Suns recruit Andrew? They are hopeless at developing talent and Andrew needs heaps of development.

On 10/11/2021 at 8:27 AM, Redleg said:

Also we were the worst disposal efficiency club in the AFL this year.

That is an interesting stat for the Premier, as normally you would think the Premier club has pretty clean ball use.

Richmond had the same stat in their premiership years, I believe (and stand to be corrected)?

11 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Anyone seen much of Fejo jnr? I know this is a highlights package, but wow:

 

Gee, he reminds me of Harley Bennell, but looks like he plays more back behind the ball.

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

Imagine if the Suns recruit Andrew? They are hopeless at developing talent and Andrew needs heaps of development.

People are complaining about the rule change that prevents clubs from matching bids for their NGA players. If that wasn’t the case, Melbourne would have to expend almost all of its draft points to match the Suns at 5. It simply wouldn’t happen. Happy to take Sonsie who is a class above and is ready to play from day 1.

13 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Ed Pascoe has also had a crack at a Phantom Draft. Here’s the first 25 selections:-

A trivial observation:  'Josh(ua)' a popular name 18 years ago, especially in Victoria...🤔

Apart from Mac, Pascoe’s phantom has none of our nGA/Fs choices going in these rounds.  So we pick them up as Rookies (if at all).  How do we assess Moniz-Wakefield and Woey Jnr?

9 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Imagine if the Suns recruit Andrew? They are hopeless at developing talent and Andrew needs heaps of development.

Maybe not the best place for him to start his AFL career. But that might make it easier to convince him to come to the Dees in 2 years time. 

17 hours ago, 58er said:

Didn't seem to be any problem of our disposal Redleg when we launched our great 7 goals in 17 mins NOR the 9 goal last quarter crowning glory our best for the season!!!

Snd I saw it live !!! Best Footy by the Mighty Demons  in the 62 years I have been attending matches.

As Daisy (or someone else) said on the commentary "Melbourne are playing that good they can make and clean up their mistakes in the one piece of play".

Perhaps Redleg it's a case where the theory does not match the practice.

Kangas May one day be looking for a positive stats man Please consider joining them and giving yourself a real challenge!!!

I had it explained that slow play chip kick sides like the Cats, will have higher disposal efficiency , while our style of play leads to less disposal efficiency. What that means is that certain stats don’t affect winning as much as other ones.

4 hours ago, Colm said:

Maybe not the best place for him to start his AFL career. But that might make it easier to convince him to come to the Dees in 2 years time. 

Agree. IF we want him and he goes to another club, the hope is that it is an interstate one.

GCS recruiting Mac Andrew would be an incredibly risk move; they need someone who can make a more rapid on-field impact. 

13 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Imagine if the Suns recruit Andrew? They are hopeless at developing talent and Andrew needs heaps of development.

Well at least we can easily get him back in 2 years time.......

So how many players are we at 95% confidence they go before our pick:

1-2: JHF, Daicos
3-4: Darcy, Callaghan
5-10: Hobbs, Rachele, Andrew
<15: Ward, Gibcus, Erasmus

That’s 10. Goater, Amiss, Wanganeen-Milera, Draper? Anyone who’s a lock to go before what will eventually become 19?

7 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

So how many players are we at 95% confidence they go before our pick:

1-2: JHF, Daicos
3-4: Darcy, Callaghan
5-10: Hobbs, Rachele, Andrew
<15: Ward, Gibcus, Erasmus

That’s 10. Goater, Amiss, Wanganeen-Milera, Draper? Anyone who’s a lock to go before what will eventually become 19?

Starts to get variable after 10 and heavily dependant on individual club views. I’m reasonably convinced that Wanganeen-Milera doesn’t get past pick 13 now (after being viewed as a 25+ range kid around 6 weeks ago). Beyond that, such a wide net from 10-30. Would love for Sinn to slide to us at 19, but a heap of good options. 

 

On 10/14/2021 at 1:20 PM, Turner said:

not to get ahead of ourselves, but here's an early '22 look. particular interest in the height of ed's first round prospects, great for us with all our talls around the 29-31 bracket

Busslinger is a very good player