Lucifers Hero 40,708 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Some very harsh judgements of Oliver on here. Forget the bnf, spots 3-5 were separated by a miniscule amount. He was in the AA squad. He was at the top of most KPI's for a midfielder. He is 23 yo. Anyone looking at him as to why we missed finals are way off the mark. He is a key reason we ended up 9th. If 18 of his teammates trained and played like he does finals would be beyond doubt. If they lift their game his would go thru the roof. 9 1 1 Quote
Forest Demon 4,681 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 I've resisted commenting hoping it would just go away, but seeing this thread sitting near the top of the forum each time I come on Demonland is stress inducing. Oliver is about as close to untradeable as you can get in my opinion. I rate him right up alongside Petracca, only difference is Oliver has been top shelf from the minute he walked into the side as an 18 year old. 16 2 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 If they trade Oliver we are stuffed we can't afford to trade him EVER. 2 1 Quote
Demon3 2,541 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Its all just absolute nonsense.. this would have to be the poster child for nonsense trade talk that snowballs into mass hysteria. Oliver is not going anywhere, does not want to leave, club would not entertain the idea of trading him. Oliver was grumpy towards the end of the year and a bit frustrated, he is driven and to be fair is probably on the selfish side, BnF results, All Aus, Brownlow any accolades are important to him, some people value that, others dont. Mclure started this with a flippant, inaccurate comment about him being unhappy at the club and put little context around it.. its since spread and now the most over rated germalist in Barrett is fueling the fire with a ridiculous comment in his grade 3 level article on the AFL site today. Saying Carlton want Oliver is like saying Melbourne want Martin.. of course they want him, and they would have asked the question. Oliver will be red and blue in 2021 and i believe beyond. 3 Quote
Demon17 5,259 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Demon3 said: Its all just absolute nonsense.. this would have to be the poster child for nonsense trade talk that snowballs into mass hysteria. Oliver is not going anywhere, does not want to leave, club would not entertain the idea of trading him. Oliver was grumpy towards the end of the year and a bit frustrated, he is driven and to be fair is probably on the selfish side, BnF results, All Aus, Brownlow any accolades are important to him, some people value that, others dont. Mclure started this with a flippant, inaccurate comment about him being unhappy at the club and put little context around it.. its since spread and now the most over rated germalist in Barrett is fueling the fire with a ridiculous comment in his grade 3 level article on the AFL site today. Saying Carlton want Oliver is like saying Melbourne want Martin.. of course they want him, and they would have asked the question. Oliver will be red and blue in 2021 and i believe beyond. Below is the Barrett article on AFL News today. If this isn't click bait I don't know what is and the thread should be shut down. I have boldened the type on the words "...May...", not Barrett "...IF ... there's a player the Blues may still want to add to their list alongside the soon-to-be official acquisitions of Williams and Saad ... THEN ... it may be the contracted Demon Clayton Oliver..." It may also be Fyffe, or Treloar, or Pendlebury, or Martin, or , Dangerfield, ... or,.... or..................... Barret no doubt has a KPI for bonus or salary on Views per Article, and possibly, number of times he is re-quoted, like I am doing. He's a hack and this is a brillaint piece of tabloid journalism gaming the process. Again - close this thread and lets not hear any more about it. Hutchy would be so proud of him. 1 Quote
deebug 1,754 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Demon3 said: Its all just absolute nonsense.. this would have to be the poster child for nonsense trade talk that snowballs into mass hysteria. Oliver is not going anywhere, does not want to leave, club would not entertain the idea of trading him. Oliver was grumpy towards the end of the year and a bit frustrated, he is driven and to be fair is probably on the selfish side, BnF results, All Aus, Brownlow any accolades are important to him, some people value that, others dont. Mclure started this with a flippant, inaccurate comment about him being unhappy at the club and put little context around it.. its since spread and now the most over rated germalist in Barrett is fueling the fire with a ridiculous comment in his grade 3 level article on the AFL site today. Saying Carlton want Oliver is like saying Melbourne want Martin.. of course they want him, and they would have asked the question. Oliver will be red and blue in 2021 and i believe beyond. Well said, both Mclure and Barrett seem to do this every trade period. Quote
Demon trucker 1,800 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Demon17 said: Below is the Barrett article on AFL News today. If this isn't click bait I don't know what is and the thread should be shut down. I have boldened the type on the words "...May...", not Barrett "...IF ... there's a player the Blues may still want to add to their list alongside the soon-to-be official acquisitions of Williams and Saad ... THEN ... it may be the contracted Demon Clayton Oliver..." It may also be Fyffe, or Treloar, or Pendlebury, or Martin, or , Dangerfield, ... or,.... or..................... Barret no doubt has a KPI for bonus or salary on Views per Article, and possibly, number of times he is re-quoted, like I am doing. He's a hack and this is a brillaint piece of tabloid journalism gaming the process. Again - close this thread and lets not hear any more about it. Hutchy would be so proud of him. This is the man that for about 5 seasons he said the Dees are going to trade watts, yes he got it right after 5 years saying the same thing every year 1 Quote
Pennant St Dee 13,429 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 21 hours ago, daisycutter said: it's not just the journos, clint player managers have a lot to answer for, planting fake suggestions to journos and other clubs to raise a player's profile. sometimes for this year or setting the ground for next year in clarrie's case i think it is just a ruse to raise his contract extension value with mfc next year (probably early next year} Yep nailed it Quote
titan_uranus 25,250 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 For those of you who put stock in Tony Sheahan... Quote
deebug 1,754 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 How about 0% Why the hell would we give up a player like Clarry? 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,706 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Some very harsh judgements of Oliver on here. Forget the bnf, spots 3-5 were separated by a miniscule amount. He was in the AA squad. He was at the top of most KPI's for a midfielder. He is 23 yo. Anyone looking at him as to why we missed finals are way off the mark. He is a key reason we ended up 9th. If 18 of his teammates trained and played like he does finals would be beyond doubt. If they lift their game his would go thru the roof. Completely agree mate. Ridiculous how harsh some judge him. I hope Goodwin's not in the same camp as some of our supporters. Edited October 16, 2020 by A F 1 Quote
Demonland 74,327 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, titan_uranus said: For those of you who put stock in Tony Sheahan... He’s like a broken calendar. 1 2 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Sheahan is a professional troll, this is just getting silly. Edited October 16, 2020 by Ethan Tremblay Quote
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 If we trade Oliver I will riot. 3 Quote
Demon17 5,259 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Demonland said: He’s like a broken calendar. So why are you - the Moderator - gving this issue airtime. And don't tell me its about opinions and freedom of speech. Do you have a vested interest in these guys click numbers. It looks like it to me. Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Oliver or his manager could easily come out and pour water on this Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Demon17 said: So why are you - the Moderator - gving this issue airtime. And don't tell me its about opinions and freedom of speech. Do you have a vested interest in these guys click numbers. It looks like it to me. Sorry I just to duck down to coles to clear out all their aluminium foil rapidly also constructing faraday cage 1 1 Quote
Demonland 74,327 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Demon17 said: So why are you - the Moderator - gving this issue airtime. And don't tell me its about opinions and freedom of speech. Do you have a vested interest in these guys click numbers. It looks like it to me. Feel free not to click on the link to this thread. That is your freedom of choice. 4 4 Quote
adonski 13,235 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Welcome to Melbourne FC: Tim Taranto 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, adonski said: Welcome to Melbourne FC: Tim Taranto Straight swap for Preuss? Quote
adonski 13,235 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said: Straight swap for Preuss? I'd want Whitfield out of that deal. Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Oliver needs to play better. Either: 1. He doesn’t believe it. 2. He knows it and wants to be at another club that lets him do it. Both scenarios require a change. The best changes should be the coaching (assistant or senior) and the midfield mix. If the club doesn’t want to make those changes and instead wants to trade Oliver it would be one heck of a call. Quote
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