Some very harsh judgements of Oliver on here. 

Forget the bnf, spots 3-5 were separated by a miniscule amount.  He was in the AA squad.  He was at the top of most KPI's for a midfielder.  He is 23 yo.  Anyone looking at him as to why we missed finals are way off the mark.  He is a key reason we ended up 9th.

If 18 of his teammates trained and played like he does finals would be beyond doubt.  If they lift their game his would go thru the roof.

I've resisted commenting hoping it would just go away, but seeing this thread sitting near the top of the forum each time I come on Demonland is stress inducing.

Oliver is about as close to untradeable as you can get in my opinion. I rate him right up alongside Petracca, only difference is Oliver has been top shelf from the minute he walked into the side as an 18 year old.

If they trade Oliver we are stuffed we can't afford to trade him  EVER.

Its all just absolute nonsense.. this would have to be the poster child for nonsense trade talk that snowballs into mass hysteria. Oliver is not going anywhere, does not want to leave, club would not entertain the idea of trading him. 

Oliver was grumpy towards the end of the year and a bit frustrated, he is driven and to be fair is probably on the selfish side, BnF results, All Aus, Brownlow any accolades are important to him, some people value that, others dont. 

Mclure started this with a flippant, inaccurate comment about him being unhappy at the club and put little context around it.. its since spread and now the most over rated germalist in Barrett is fueling the fire with a ridiculous comment in his grade 3 level article on the AFL site today.

Saying Carlton want Oliver is like saying Melbourne want Martin.. of course they want him,  and they would have asked the question.

Oliver will be red and blue in 2021 and i believe beyond. 

12 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Its all just absolute nonsense.. this would have to be the poster child for nonsense trade talk that snowballs into mass hysteria. Oliver is not going anywhere, does not want to leave, club would not entertain the idea of trading him. 

Oliver was grumpy towards the end of the year and a bit frustrated, he is driven and to be fair is probably on the selfish side, BnF results, All Aus, Brownlow any accolades are important to him, some people value that, others dont. 

Mclure started this with a flippant, inaccurate comment about him being unhappy at the club and put little context around it.. its since spread and now the most over rated germalist in Barrett is fueling the fire with a ridiculous comment in his grade 3 level article on the AFL site today.

Saying Carlton want Oliver is like saying Melbourne want Martin.. of course they want him,  and they would have asked the question.

Oliver will be red and blue in 2021 and i believe beyond. 

Below is the Barrett article on AFL News today.  If this isn't click bait I don't know what is and the thread should be shut down. I have boldened the type on the words "...May...", not Barrett

"...IF ...

there's a player the Blues may still want to add to their list alongside the soon-to-be official acquisitions of Williams and Saad ... THEN ...

it may be the contracted Demon Clayton Oliver..."

It may also be Fyffe, or Treloar, or Pendlebury, or Martin, or , Dangerfield, ... or,.... or.....................

Barret no doubt has a KPI for bonus or salary on Views per Article, and possibly, number of times he is re-quoted, like I am doing. He's a hack and this is a brillaint piece of tabloid journalism gaming the process.

Again - close this thread and lets not hear any more about it. Hutchy would be so proud of him.

21 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Its all just absolute nonsense.. this would have to be the poster child for nonsense trade talk that snowballs into mass hysteria. Oliver is not going anywhere, does not want to leave, club would not entertain the idea of trading him. 

Oliver was grumpy towards the end of the year and a bit frustrated, he is driven and to be fair is probably on the selfish side, BnF results, All Aus, Brownlow any accolades are important to him, some people value that, others dont. 

Mclure started this with a flippant, inaccurate comment about him being unhappy at the club and put little context around it.. its since spread and now the most over rated germalist in Barrett is fueling the fire with a ridiculous comment in his grade 3 level article on the AFL site today.

Saying Carlton want Oliver is like saying Melbourne want Martin.. of course they want him,  and they would have asked the question.

Oliver will be red and blue in 2021 and i believe beyond. 

Well said, both Mclure and Barrett seem to do this every trade period.

13 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Below is the Barrett article on AFL News today.  If this isn't click bait I don't know what is and the thread should be shut down. I have boldened the type on the words "...May...", not Barrett

"...IF ...

there's a player the Blues may still want to add to their list alongside the soon-to-be official acquisitions of Williams and Saad ... THEN ...

it may be the contracted Demon Clayton Oliver..."

It may also be Fyffe, or Treloar, or Pendlebury, or Martin, or , Dangerfield, ... or,.... or.....................

Barret no doubt has a KPI for bonus or salary on Views per Article, and possibly, number of times he is re-quoted, like I am doing. He's a hack and this is a brillaint piece of tabloid journalism gaming the process.

Again - close this thread and lets not hear any more about it. Hutchy would be so proud of him.

This is the man that for about 5 seasons he said the Dees are going to trade watts, yes he got it right after 5 years saying the same thing every year

21 hours ago, daisycutter said:

it's not just the journos, clint

player managers have a lot to answer for, planting fake suggestions to journos and other clubs to raise a player's profile. sometimes for this year or setting the ground for next year

in clarrie's case i think it is just a ruse to raise his contract extension value with mfc next year (probably early next year}

Yep nailed it

For those of you who put stock in Tony Sheahan...

ha, tony sheahan!

"75%" righteo 

How about 0%

Why the hell would we give up a player like Clarry?

5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Some very harsh judgements of Oliver on here. 

Forget the bnf, spots 3-5 were separated by a miniscule amount.  He was in the AA squad.  He was at the top of most KPI's for a midfielder.  He is 23 yo.  Anyone looking at him as to why we missed finals are way off the mark.  He is a key reason we ended up 9th.

If 18 of his teammates trained and played like he does finals would be beyond doubt.  If they lift their game his would go thru the roof.

Completely agree mate. Ridiculous how harsh some judge him. I hope Goodwin's not in the same camp as some of our supporters.

Edited October 16, 20204 yr by A F

 

23 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

For those of you who put stock in Tony Sheahan...

He’s like a broken calendar. 

Sheahan is a professional troll, this is just getting silly. 

Edited October 16, 20204 yr by Ethan Tremblay

If we trade Oliver I will riot.

 

12 minutes ago, Demonland said:

He’s like a broken calendar. 

So why are you - the Moderator -  gving this issue airtime. And don't tell me its about opinions and freedom of speech. 

Do you have a vested interest in these guys click numbers. It looks like it to me.

Oliver or his manager could easily come out and pour water on this

 

 

2 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

So why are you - the Moderator -  gving this issue airtime. And don't tell me its about opinions and freedom of speech. 

Do you have a vested interest in these guys click numbers. It looks like it to me.

Sorry I just to duck down to coles to clear out all their aluminium foil

 

rapidly also constructing faraday cage 

3 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

So why are you - the Moderator -  gving this issue airtime. And don't tell me its about opinions and freedom of speech. 

Do you have a vested interest in these guys click numbers. It looks like it to me.

Feel free not to click on the link to this thread. That is your freedom of choice.

Welcome to Melbourne FC: Tim Taranto 

7 minutes ago, adonski said:

Welcome to Melbourne FC: Tim Taranto 

Straight swap for Preuss?

4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Straight swap for Preuss?

I'd want Whitfield out of that deal. 

Oliver needs to play better. Either: 

1. He doesn’t believe it.

2. He knows it and wants to be at another club that lets him do it.

Both scenarios require a change. The best changes should be the coaching (assistant or senior) and the midfield mix. 
 

If the club doesn’t want to make those changes and instead wants to trade Oliver it would be one heck of a call.