POSTGAME: Rd 16 vs Fremantle

[KLV 1,768]

Before anyone is sacked, a thorough independent review of football department is needed. Otherwise we’ll be here watching the whole thing on repeat in 3 years. 

Im confident Bartlett and Pert won’t be sitting back. 

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

Garry Lyon: "why aren't we a ruthless, unconditional club"...and why are we asking that question at round 16? We've had all season and all pre season after a season of disappointment to get there.

Spot on, Garry.

 

Edited September 7, 2020 by RedButMostlyBlue

[trout 385]

40 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I’m going up to the Abrolhos islands fishing on Saturday. 
I’ll post some photos.

Your very lucky and I am very jealous.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

5 minutes ago, Greendale said:

Goodwin apparently thinks it's a good experience to lose a must win game. Has he forgotten the end to the 2016 and 2017 seasons?

We've become experts at it!

[Demon3 2,541]

Again well said on teh Couch. Goodwin says in his presser they need to be a ruthless and unconditional club.. as Lyon says.. why they saying that after nearly 2 years since we played finals. 

[Pennant St Dee 13,304]

Really poor, didn't actually mind that first quarter taking into accountthe blustery conditions and rain. What happened against Sydney should have burned more and the second quarter was just dumb. The overhandballing killed me and the poor ball movement when we should have been up for the contest.

He's in his first season but Kossie for christ sake compose yourself and you learn to lower your ball drop, there was no need for him to kick that snap when he did. It's not the first time he's done this during the season.

We have a lot of dumb footballers who just don't do the basics

[leucopogon 1,519]

25 minutes ago, Lefty said:

I called the club last week and took my membership of auto-renew. I told them if Goodwin goes I'll put it back on.

Someone mentioned that Pert gets reports like this. Call the club and let them know you won;t re-sign if Goodwin is there. Money talks.

Yep, I believe I will do this as well

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

Easy to pot from Garry's seat, but he is spot on

Goodwin is pathetic

[Dr. Gonzo 24,297]

35 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

One of the most astounding decisions he's ever made.  We could play better as a key forward than he can.  He didn't even look like it, and he isn't mobile enough to get up the ground to give us a target.  

Forecast is tropical downpour. Bring in the big ungainly fella to run around the 50.

[praha 11,240]

Club isn't live tweeting the presser like they normally do. As someone who works in corp affairs, we call this "risk mitigation".

Club is shielding Goodwin and protecting its digital footprint here. Minimising direct commentary on its branded posts.

Jungle drums.

[titan_uranus 25,043]

11 minutes ago, olisik said:

You just disagree for the [censored] of it. Playing his 2nd game he shows speed, put on good pressure and almost snagged a couple despite [censored] poor team mates around you.

No I don't.

I disagree with you a lot because I, like many others on here, find most of what you post to either be stupid, wrong, hypocritical or unnecessarily inflammatory.

In this instance, Bedford showed the same amount of speed as Baker, Hunt and Pickett. Speed is nice but doesn't make a good footballer on its own (Sam Blease a perfect example). He didn't put on any more pressure than the aforementioned players. 

He "almost snagged a couple despite poor teammates around him" - sounds like Pickett, who is someone you have a thread and ongoing posting vendetta against.

Bedford was pushed off the ball, didn't stick his tackles, didn't look composed with ball in hand, and had no overall impact on the game. Like I said before, he wasn't the only one like that, but there was nothing he showed tonight that would suggest he is currently ready for AFL football, nor that he's going to make it.

[Yze_13 297]

11 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Sorry but these excuses don’t stack up. Everyone has had a hard season. Granted some more than others, but we’ve had a dream injury run until this week, and we are in the same short break cycle as everyone else. Sydney had the same break as us. Freo one extra day. Big deal. 
 

I am sick of the excuses. Last year injuries. This year Covid. Covid has impacted everyone including 17 other clubs but I don’t see them using it as an excuse. 

Sure - I get it. I'm hurting too. I'm not happy about how they fell away against two mediocre teams either. 

But was I happy with where we sat, all things considered, before the last two matches? Absolutely. 

[Soidee 1,496]

Toxic damn club.  Roos changed up things for a while and Jackson was terrific.  Then Pert came along and it’s a total mess again.

i don’t know what to say about the list anymore, It’s the toxic culture combined with poor choice of coach.  The football department is a failure under Mahoney and Goodwin cannot harness talent.

[Deesprate 1,324]

Goodwin presser was a kick in the guts to members. Platitude after platitude. Dead man walking and he know it.

[agent 99 71]

That was the most pathetic presser from someone who doesn’t have a clue. Your the coach Goodwin tell us why? And tell us how your going to fix it? 
We already know the problem, it’s your job to know what’s causing it and what your going to do about it!

[titan_uranus 25,043]

1 minute ago, praha said:

Club isn't live tweeting the presser like they normally do. As someone who works in corp affairs, we call this "risk mitigation".

Club is shielding Goodwin and protecting its digital footprint here. Minimising direct commentary on its branded posts.

Jungle drums.

I actually find this interesting.

I feel like, win or loss, the club has live tweeted press conferences for years now.

Why stop tonight?

[dl4e 5,851]

Well that was another [censored] pathetic performance. There is something wrong at Melbourne.

[Gunna’s 2,104]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Why the [censored] risk Jackson?? Put him in cotton wool for [censored] sake

Goodwin coaching to save himself it's the reason he swung the axe and brought in guys like Baker and Bedford. His press conference was all about deflection talking about the broader club. He must know he's on his last legs.

I think Goodwin has just put in on the players. That was the takeaway from the presser I got. I think he was annoyed they didn’t ‘come to play’. 

[praha 11,240]

Just now, Yze_13 said:

Sure - I get it. I'm hurting too. I'm not happy about how they fell away against two mediocre teams either. 

But was I happy with where we sat, all things considered, before the last two matches? Absolutely. 

4 years into a coaching career and barely holding onto a finals spot with a health list. that's where we were 2 weeks ago. and it's not like these losses are shocking and surprising. goodwin has form and so does this team. 

[Jaded No More 68,974]

Just now, Yze_13 said:

Sure - I get it. I'm hurting too. I'm not happy about how they fell away against two mediocre teams either. 

But was I happy with where we sat, all things considered, before the last two matches? Absolutely. 

I suppose we have different expectations then. Winning against poor teams does nothing for me 2 years on from a prelim. 
If in 2018 after that mega prelim loss you were told in 2020 we would battle to make the 8 after finishing 17th the year prior, would you take it? Would Goodwin get an extension off the back of that? The answer is hell no. 
 

We should be better. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,297]

36 minutes ago, P-man said:

May must be starting to think he’s made a horrible mistake.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,297]

1 minute ago, Gunna’s said:

I think Goodwin has just put in on the players. That was the takeaway from the presser I got. I think he was annoyed they didn’t ‘come to play’. 

How many times can that happen before he looks in the mirror? Twice in 5 days !!

[Demon3 2,541]

Goodwin copping it a lot on here and as he should, but players cannot be let off teh hook. We need a list re invigoration, not a great time to refresh a list but we need to be pro active. Brayshaw, Tom Mcdonald, they are not winning us finals, but they will net a return. Do it.

[kev martin 10,414]

More than disappointing again. So many steps backward.

Goody in his pre-game interview, “We are process team, not guided by emotions”, or something like that.

Well the process is flawed or even non-existent.

Emotion is a great motivator and can cause positive outcomes.

He must have been defending his no spray policy, or his inability to get the team hyped up.

Need a goal kicking and forwards coach.

The routine of young players in the system is lacking. Rivers attempt to kick his first goal was rushed, and he appeared stunned. Pickettt can't kick them. Preuss poor decision, out on the full and not trying to hit up. Crumbers can't get to the ball drop. Smalls trying to mark or making leads only to be beaten by taller players. They don't know how to be in the best areas to get the ball or to hold it in the forward area.

Why have we so many passengers, is the process not to include them all?

It is obvious they don't help each other be part of the game. We are a club of 6 to 8 players. The Goody's favourites, the rest don't seem in it.

Building relationships, what hogwash.

Too many players getting to the positions Goody wants and not playing a natural game. (The same game most have been playing since the under 10's). They can't do 'the take it' on within the process parameters. 

Also like to thank the AFL. Three 4 day turn arounds and one off a 5 day break, plus the different game day grounds and training places.

Why didn't Bartlett give them another public spray after Sydney? Someone has to get some emotion out of them before the game.

Wow and shocked.

Edited September 7, 2020 by kev martin

[demonique 314]

20 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Just sent them an email saying the same thing

Did that back at the start of the season and I’m glad others have done so . In fact it was just before Bartlett did his spray !