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[Rab D Nesbitt 8,784]

They took 29 players to Adelaide. Would Preuss even have been one of them ?

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13 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

My source tells me that Gawn, Viney and ANB are the outs. Three players will replace them, make of it what you will. 

If AVB Has a fractured eye socket he wont play also!

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

1 minute ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

They took 29 players to Adelaide. Would Preuss even have been one of them ?

No. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

IMO it will be...

OUT: ANB, vB (inj or dropped), Lockhart (soreness), Gawn, Viney

IN: Kozzy, Hannan, Jetta, TMac, Spargo

Preuss and Rivers chances tho. Not a fan, but think Spargo may come in for a forward/mid role, has been named in the squad a few times recently.

 

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3 minutes ago, picket fence said:

If AVB Has a fractured eye socket he wont play also!

It was reported no bone damage

[Lord Nev 13,512]

3 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

They took 29 players to Adelaide. Would Preuss even have been one of them ?

Goodwin named Preuss as an option to come in today, so he's either there already or can arrive before the game.

Edited August 8, 2020 by Lord Nev

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

IMO it will be...

OUT: ANB, vB (inj or dropped), Lockhart (soreness), Gawn, Viney

IN: Kozzy, Hannan, Jetta, TMac, Spargo

Preuss and Rivers chances tho. Not a fan, but think Spargo may come in for a forward/mid role, has been named in the squad a few times recently.

 

@picket fence please

[titan_uranus 25,176]

52 minutes ago, binman said:

As i have been banging on about a season of inexplicable decisions by Goody.

To the list this week we can add playing max against the Crows (who surprise, surprise target him) and when we do not bringing Preuss to SA as option if required.

Surely Omac comes back in. Tomlinson and Jackosn split ruck duties 970% - 30%), and possibly forward duties 

Certainly another option, but I'm not sure they'll want to swing Tomlinson forward after one week resetting him in the backline.

50 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Yep. Teams win clearances off Gawn’s dominance regularly. I’m not fussed about that. I’m just worried about our love of clearing the defensive 50 thru Gawn. Without him we have no marking target down the line. So that’s a big worry for me. 
Maybe play Jackson on the wing and then let him ruck. 

Gawn's loss isn't the hit outs, although when the opponent is Goldstein the loss in the ruck contest may hurt.

It's everything else he does that somehow seems to get underrated by some on Demonland.

He is an elite runner and covers the ground as well as anyone on our list. He's an elite mark, he positions himself perfectly, and he takes hits when necessary in marking contests.

We don't have a replacement who can do 50% of what Gawn offers us, let alone 100%. But my vote is for Preuss so that we maintain our structure and balance as much as we can. Rather than moving Jackson or Tomlinson around or playing TMac when he's not in form or fit.

27 minutes ago, old dee said:

Gee you drop them off quick. Tmac is far from finished IMO.

At least some people wait to drop off players until they've shown they're in terrible form.

You, on the other hand, wrote Spargo off because of the number of centimetres listed next to his name.

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15 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Gawn can be replaced by Preuss Viney not that easily. I'd give Jordon his debut which will allow them to persist with Harmes down back.

Harmes is terrific, sure. Harmes is a good tagger. Harmes surprises with his height - capable of good spoils and contested marks. Harmes ain't no backman. 

Harmes needs to go back to midfield and forward duties, creating opportunities and forward line 'gets'. 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,985]

I'd really like to see either Hunt or Hannan back in the side for ANB and/or AVB.  I think they both have a bit to offer.  It's true that they can both be a bit hot and cold, but I think both of them were somewhat victims of playing a bad game on weeks we had loss.

The extra pace and footy smarts these guys would bring into our forward half would be very valuable.  They should both also have super fresh legs compared to a lot of blokes playing off 4 days which should also help.

I think there is a place for both Hunt and Langdon in our side.  Langdon's disposal in the forward half is pretty ordanary, where as I think that's where Hunt's disposal is best.

Asides from those two, the other I'd be considering bringing back into the forward line is Kosi.

[old dee 24,004]

Just now, titan_uranus said:

Certainly another option, but I'm not sure they'll want to swing Tomlinson forward after one week resetting him in the backline.

Gawn's loss isn't the hit outs, although when the opponent is Goldstein the loss in the ruck contest may hurt.

It's everything else he does that somehow seems to get underrated by some on Demonland.

He is an elite runner and covers the ground as well as anyone on our list. He's an elite mark, he positions himself perfectly, and he takes hits when necessary in marking contests.

We don't have a replacement who can do 50% of what Gawn offers us, let alone 100%. But my vote is for Preuss so that we maintain our structure and balance as much as we can. Rather than moving Jackson or Tomlinson around or playing TMac when he's not in form or fit.

At least some people wait to drop off players until they've shown they're in terrible form.

You, on the other hand, wrote Spargo off because of the number of centimetres listed next to his name.

And he is still not an AFL player as I said at the time  when you are his size you have to have very good skills. He does not and will never make it.

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9 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

IMO it will be...

OUT: ANB, vB (inj or dropped), Lockhart (soreness), Gawn, Viney

IN: Kozzy, Hannan, Jetta, TMac, Spargo

Preuss and Rivers chances tho. Not a fan, but think Spargo may come in for a forward/mid role, has been named in the squad a few times recently.

 

GAWD NO .Unless Spargo is in, to tag a Tortoise?? he aint no forward crumber either and a Mid NOOOOOOO.  Is Jeffy Garlett in town??

Edited August 8, 2020 by picket fence

[WERRIDEE 5,585]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Unless Spargo is in to mind a Tortoise he aint no forward crumber. Is Jeffy Garlett in towm??

Spargo is a spud Rivers and Jordon are better options for a start.

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1 minute ago, old dee said:

And he is still not an AFL player as I said at the time  when you are his size you have to have very good skills. He does not and will never make it.

My point is that you, of all people, shouldn't be arguing that another poster has prematurely written a player off (which is what you did re: TMac).

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,307]

Assuming Gawn Viney and ANB are the only outs I would go with Preuss. Rivers and Pickett. I suspect one of AVB or Bennell may also miss (guess not based on info) so would suspect Spargo (who is there) and Hannan the next ones up if the case. I hope they dont get too carried away and go LJ first ruck. Preuss can play less time and bash n crash and soften Goldy to make it easier for LJ who will get more exposure in there than he normally would with Max. 

 

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2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Spargo is a spud Rivers and Jordon are better options for a start.

So to is HUNT MUCH MUCH better option

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2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

So to is HUNT MUCH MUCH better option

Forgot Hunt existed... he might be a sneaky chance to come in.  

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On another matter who captains?? Chunk would appear obvious? May?

[Deefender 245]

They should give Tom McDonald a run on the wing. He’d be better than both Langdon and Tomlinson. 
He might run into form maybe even kick a goal.

[Demon17 5,227]

36 minutes ago, old dee said:

Tmac has proved he can play the game at a high level. The Weid never had until his games in 2020 , excuse me 2 games in 2018.

You didn't notice I was calling for his inclusion in round two and the following two?

TMac has proved he can compete in the Ruck, you don't  have to be Max's level just provide a good contest and let the midfield players do the rest.

And he was an adequate solution in 2017 and 2018 when Max was out. He also should have the engine to cover the ground and just compete.

[Adam The God 30,617]

23 minutes ago, old dee said:

And he is still not an AFL player as I said at the time  when you are his size you have to have very good skills. He does not and will never make it.

Spargo is not an accumulator at this stage, but pretty much all his touches result in scores.

I think he'll make it if the club backs him and gives him a specific role as it did in 2018.

But, each to their own.

His size has nothing to do with it though.

Edited August 8, 2020 by A F

[Lord Nev 13,512]

15 minutes ago, picket fence said:

GAWD NO .Unless Spargo is in, to tag a Tortoise?? he aint no forward crumber either and a Mid NOOOOOOO.  Is Jeffy Garlett in town??

Haha I don't like him either mate, as I said, not a fan, but Goody seems to be.

 

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3 minutes ago, deefender said:

They should give Tom McDonald a run on the wing. He’d be better than both Langdon and Tomlinson. 
He might run into form maybe even kick a goal.

This is one of the single worst takes I've ever seen on Demonland, and that's saying something.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

4 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Assuming Gawn Viney and ANB are the only outs I would go with Preuss. Rivers and Pickett. I suspect one of AVB or Bennell may also miss (guess not based on info) so would suspect Spargo (who is there) and Hannan the next ones up if the case. I hope they dont get too carried away and go LJ first ruck. Preuss can play less time and bash n crash and soften Goldy to make it easier for LJ who will get more exposure in there than he normally would with Max. 

 

It is very difficult to even speculate on selection because not only are we unsure who is actually injured but we have no Casey form nor even training reports to go on to consider replacements.

However, if those are indeed the outs big red, then I reckon your suggested replacements are reasonable. Of course Pruess has no match fitness but I would prefer him to the totally out of form Tmac or putting extra pressure on Weed or Jackson. 

I hope that is all the changes. As you say there maybe doubt over Vanders but I hope not. I wouldn't be resting Bennell unless there were good medical reasons - he needs to play himself into form.

 

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3 minutes ago, A F said:

Spargo is not an accumulator at this stage, but pretty much all his touches result in scores.

I think he'll make if the club backs him and gives him a specific role as it did in 2018.

But, each to their own.

His size has nothing to do with it though.

Yep round 1.. 3 of his touches.... resulted in goals to West Coast! Certainly resulted in scores

Edited August 8, 2020 by picket fence