Good to see Cats lose last night!  (I will conveniently ignore it was the Pies that beat them).

Scott is a very smart coach but their game plan is tailored to Kardinia Park so they don't get all those 'easy' Home game wins vs lowly teams which usually guarantees them finals.  And their wins so far are lacklustre, except Lions.

LOL, Cats will be on the receiving end of boos at the parochial and hostile 'Boo Stadium' for the next two weeks.  Some of their own medicine!

Would be very happy if they don't make finals.  Scowls will replace the smug smirks!

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Spot on, LH.  I love seeing the Cats lose.  They will fall off a massive cliff in the next few years when some of their stars retire.  They are still massively reliant on the likes of Dangerfield, Selwood, Ablett and Hawkins to win games of footy.  They still have a few handy kids coming through but nothing close to replacing those four in particular.

Horrible game to watch last night though.  Weather didn't help and the umpiring was next level atrocious.

Normally we have a Non-MFC Round thread running while the match is in progress.

What does the fact that this thread didn't appear until about 12 hours after the match finished last night say?   

2 minutes ago, sue said:

Normally we have a Non-MFC Round thread running while the match is in progress.

What does the fact that this thread didn't appear until about 12 hours after the match finished last night say?   

No-one cares

I didn't even watch the game, just saw the result. 

Ablett is cooked, Selwood is well and truly on the decline and Dangerfield smells. Geelong are done. Has anyone checked on Brucey this morning? He was getting very excited over De Goey’s return after one week off. 

4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Ablett is cooked, Selwood is well and truly on the decline and Dangerfield smells. Geelong are done. Has anyone checked on Brucey this morning? He was getting very excited over De Goey’s return after one week off. 

Probably not well but not for the reason you allude.  He is in deep water over his flippant 'hiccup' reference to De Goey's sexual assault charge. 

Grovellingly apologetic this morning and rightly so. 

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by Lucifer's Hero

47 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Good to see Cats lose last night!  (I will conveniently ignore it was the Pies that beat them).

Scott is a very smart coach but their game plan is tailored to Kardinia Park so they don't get all those 'easy' Home game wins vs lowly teams which usually guarantees them finals.  And their wins so far are lacklustre, except Lions.

Would be very happy if they don't make finals.  Scowls will replace the smug smirks!

I still can't believe what transpired in our game against them, i don't think I've ever been so frustrated in a losing outcome.

It's been stated before but they were their for the taking against us, i just hope we are switched on and have a mechanism in place to combat it the next time it arises. 

Lions are flat track bullies.

 

Umpiring last night was amongst some of the worst I've seen. Pies had a dream run and even got paid marks when dropping the ball!

There definitely needs to be a pull back on all the rule changes. We no longer have rules, just interpretations. It's making sport unwatchable, un-umpirable, and impossible to explain to new prospective fans and markets.

Another low scoring game. It was wet so a slight excuse but the absolute dominance of defences and the seemingly constant out of bounds is so boring.

Add to that the commentary that can even get excited over a rolling maul and........

18 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Umpiring last night was amongst some of the worst I've seen. Pies had a dream run and even got paid marks when dropping the ball!

There definitely needs to be a pull back on all the rule changes. We no longer have rules, just interpretations. It's making sport unwatchable, un-umpirable, and impossible to explain to new prospective fans and markets.

To be fair Lord travis, it really was just the reverse of what happens at Kardinia Park every single match. I won't be crying a river for Duckwood and pals who have made an artform of playing for frees....and getting them. Duckwood being injured probably cost them 4 - 5 frees. Fantastic.

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Probably not well but not for the reason you allude.  He is in deep water over his flippant 'hiccup' reference to De Goey's sexual assault charge. 

Grovellingly apologetic this morning and rightly so. 

apparently sen tweet referred to watching degoey as a “guilty pleasure”

since deleted

58 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Probably not well but not for the reason you allude.  He is in deep water over his flippant 'hiccup' reference to De Goey's sexual assault charge. 

Grovellingly apologetic this morning and rightly so. 

Yep, my comment was just in relation to his general over the top commentary surrounding De Goey and his ‘return’. I missed his ‘hiccup’ last night and only just caught up, wow wee.

We should be ashamed we lost to Jeelong this year

i am still so angry we only kicked 3 goals in 3 quarters on a beautiful day. 
 

 

4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Yep, my comment was just in relation to his general over the top commentary surrounding De Goey and his ‘return’. I missed his ‘hiccup’ last night and only just caught up, wow wee.

It was an atrocious thing to say

They were fawning all over De Goey last night

 

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

Umpiring last night was amongst some of the worst I've seen. Pies had a dream run and even got paid marks when dropping the ball!

There definitely needs to be a pull back on all the rule changes. We no longer have rules, just interpretations. It's making sport unwatchable, un-umpirable, and impossible to explain to new prospective fans and markets.

what p....ed me off was the frequent throwing the ball with the two handed shovel handball

it's become so prevalent now in our game. umpires are too scared to call it out because they are scared a slomo replay might show a teensy facsimile of a quick handball

need to tighten up the rules/interpretation on shovel handballs or just allow throwing the ball (joking)

27 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

what p....ed me off was the frequent throwing the ball with the two handed shovel handball

it's become so prevalent now in our game. umpires are too scared to call it out because they are scared a slomo replay might show a teensy facsimile of a quick handball

need to tighten up the rules/interpretation on shovel handballs or just allow throwing the ball (joking)

Its all about reducing stoppages. Which is not the job of the umpires. Drives me nuts. Same with ignoring players being pushed in the back and driving them into the ground. Which us made worse when they then get pinged for holding! 

Just pay the free kicks.

And at stoppages just throw the ball straight up.

1 minute ago, binman said:

Its all about reducing stoppages. Which is not the job of the umpires. Drives me nuts. Same with ignoring players being pushed in the back and driving them into the ground. Which us made worse when they then get pinged for holding! 

Just pay the free kicks.

And at stoppages just throw the ball straight up.

but they spend a good 45 seconds checking which of the two ruckmen are competing, making sure that the space is there for them to back out of the contest...

40 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

what p....ed me off was the frequent throwing the ball with the two handed shovel handball

it's become so prevalent now in our game. umpires are too scared to call it out because they are scared a slomo replay might show a teensy facsimile of a quick handball

need to tighten up the rules/interpretation on shovel handballs or just allow throwing the ball (joking)

When they wanted to get rid of deliberate out of bounds, WHAM, they clamped down overnight with zero tolerance. Anything slightly resembling deliberate was a free. Problem solved. (Arguable that it was ever that much of a problem.)

They should do it with throwing, or "slick handball".  Anything which is not clearly a punch from a stationary hand gets called a throw. Yes, some legit handballs will get called, just as some innocent over the boundaries got called deliberate, but the players would adjust within a round.

The lack of direction & support given the umpires has caused this mess. They don't know if they're Arthur or Martha. They don't even know what game they're officiating.

7 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

When they wanted to get rid of deliberate out of bounds, WHAM, they clamped down overnight with zero tolerance. Anything slightly resembling deliberate was a free. Problem solved. (Arguable that it was ever that much of a problem.)

They should do it with throwing, or "slick handball".  Anything which is not clearly a punch from a stationary hand gets called a throw. Yes, some legit handballs will get called, just as some innocent over the boundaries got called deliberate, but the players would adjust within a round.

The lack of direction & support given the umpires has caused this mess. They don't know if they're Arthur or Martha. They don't even know what game they're officiating.

I was thinking exactly the same thing after watching last nights game. It's becoming a joke.

2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

There definitely needs to be a pull back on all the rule changes. We no longer have rules, just interpretations.

Absolutely right. I can't think of any other game where there are "interpretations". I can think of golf, or squash, where there are descriptions of how to apply the rules in certain situations. But those change very very little over time. And certainly never within a season!

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It was an atrocious thing to say

They were fawning all over De Goey last night

 

It's quite revolting to even see Mcguire on the TV now. Such a culture of denial and cover up at all costs.

The quality of commentary matched with interpritative dance by the umps is making the game really hard to watch.

I don't even blame the umps, it's the commentators and AFL that drive "this week's focus will be on....." crap.

Roy and HG don't call Gil the murderer for nothin.

 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We should be ashamed we lost to Jeelong this year

i am still so angry we only kicked 3 goals in 3 quarters on a beautiful day. 
 

 

Too right.

If Tomlinson kicks straight, we're 3-2 and they're 3-4.

I know if your auntie had hairy armpits but ...

4 minutes ago, Freddy Fuschia said:

Too right.

If Tomlinson kicks straight, we're 3-2 and they're 3-4.

I know if your auntie had hairy armpits but ...

or kozzie earlier in the game running into an open goal from 20m doesn't miss

25 minutes ago, Freddy Fuschia said:

Too right.

If Tomlinson kicks straight, we're 3-2 and they're 3-4.

I know if your auntie had hairy armpits but ...

Exactly. Jeelong were awful last night, but it won’t get discussed 

4 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Ablett is cooked, Selwood is well and truly on the decline and Dangerfield smells. Geelong are done. Has anyone checked on Brucey this morning? He was getting very excited over De Goey’s return after one week off. 

Bruce's gushing commentary was next level last night.