On 7/12/2020 at 4:31 AM, Ohio USA - David said:

Paddy McCartin is effectively delisted by St Kilda. Do you guys think we should recruit him for 2021 season. Seems to be over his concussion issues and wants to continue playing. Only 24 years of age.

Maybe Richardson should have some input on that matter.

BUT only if the Demons change their game style and kick inside 50 more accurately.

49 inside 50's for 8 Goals is deplorable.

McCartin could add versatility and we could swing T Mc back to CHB

No

Walk away from that prospect

 

WALK AWAY

Its a respectful No from me and the Club.

 

On 7/12/2020 at 4:01 AM, Ohio USA - David said:

Paddy McCartin is effectively delisted by St Kilda. Do you guys think we should recruit him for 2021 season. Seems to be over his concussion issues and wants to continue playing. Only 24 years of age.

Maybe Richardson should have some input on that matter.

BUT only if the Demons change their game style and kick inside 50 more accurately.

49 inside 50's for 8 Goals is deplorable.

McCartin could add versatility and we could swing T Mc back to CHB

No, no ... no, no, no. 

On 7/11/2020 at 6:50 PM, drysdale demon said:

He may want to play again, but his family don't think he will ever play again.

You do not know that.  You just made that up..  The article in the Age said " he had total family support"  so do not just make stuff up just to be smart..

It's a no from me, Burgess is a great asset to have at our club but he can't do anything for concussion issues and we've had our list clogged by Kolo helping him through his concussion issues, not interested in us taking in another unless there's a huge confidence he's out the other side.

Even so, I just don't feel it's the right move.

1 hour ago, Pates said:

It's a no from me, Burgess is a great asset to have at our club but he can't do anything for concussion issues and we've had our list clogged by Kolo helping him through his concussion issues, not interested in us taking in another unless there's a huge confidence he's out the other side.

Even so, I just don't feel it's the right move.

You forgot about what the Club did for Brayshaw.. That sinks your argument.

3 minutes ago, Ohio USA - David said:

You forgot about what the Club did for Brayshaw.. That sinks your argument.

Dave, majority on here don't want him mate.

He's better off focusing on his health and longevity in life.

Look at the sickening affect its having on the likes of Shaun Smith, Greg Williams and the likes. I heard Jack Frost (Sams brother) on SEN yesterday talk about the lingering issues He's still having to this day, and yet he's been out of the game for 5 years.

Forget it mate, its not happening

6 hours ago, Ohio USA - David said:

You do not know that.  You just made that up..  The article in the Age said " he had total family support"  so do not just make stuff up just to be smart..

I do know that, I know the family. Of course they will offer support to him just as they do to his brother and the other family member in Ben Cunnington.

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1 hour ago, Ohio USA - David said:

You forgot about what the Club did for Brayshaw.. That sinks your argument.

 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dave, majority on here don't want him mate.

He's better off focusing on his health and longevity in life.

Look at the sickening affect its having on the likes of Shaun Smith, Greg Williams and the likes. I heard Jack Frost (Sams brother) on SEN yesterday talk about the lingering issues He's still having to this day, and yet he's been out of the game for 5 years.

Forget it mate, its not happening

Dave, let it go. The info coming back to me from sources in the industry support what @drysdale demon and @dazzledavey36 are getting at - it's highly unlikely and probably very unwise for Paddy McCartin to attempt a comeback.

I don’t care about his concussion issues, and if we can fix them or not - he’s a bust. A fit paddy is still a sub standard forward.

It's a legitimate question to ask why we wouldn't go for him based on those previous examples but that doesn't mean we should keep doing it. I'd like to give the recycling a rest for a little while and focus on development with the Pettys, Jacksons, Weids etc

And the concussion issue for me is another thing altogether. Even without that I just don't think he'd be worth the punt. 

On 7/12/2020 at 8:50 AM, drysdale demon said:

He may want to play again, but his family don't think he will ever play again.

 

On 7/13/2020 at 10:35 AM, drysdale demon said:

It is a lot more involved than concussion, and it has nothing to do with his diabetes either.

 

8 hours ago, Ohio USA - David said:

You do not know that.  You just made that up..  The article in the Age said " he had total family support"  so do not just make stuff up just to be smart..

 

2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

I do know that, I know the family. Of course they will offer support to him just as they do to his brother and the other family member in Ben Cunnington.

Don't usually go in to bat for 'drysdale' but he's been pretty consistent on this for a while now 'Ohio', it's not just something he's made up.

I just hope Paddy can get on with his life, it's sad for him that it doesn't look like football is going to be it going forward.

The sooner he can move on the better.

Good luck to the kid...

Let me just echo this post. 

31 minutes ago, rjay said:

I just hope Paddy can get on with his life, it's sad for him that it doesn't look like football is going to be it going forward.

The sooner he can move on the better.

Good luck to the kid...

 

Fair to say Saints fans would not be enjoying seeing Trac tearing it up.

12 hours ago, Ohio USA - David said:

You forgot about what the Club did for Brayshaw.. That sinks your argument.

It's a different situation, we had Brayshaw on our list so we intimately knew his situation and everything that he was going through. We also did the same with Jetta so I'm well aware that the club has stuck with players suffering through concussion issues and come out the other side. But bringing on KK with his problems shows the risk you take when the player hasn't been regularly assessed by your own medicos and the inherit unpredictability when dealing with brain injuries.

Paddy might well be feeling good right now, but one knock could set him back to where he was 1 year ago. Or it could be he recovers immediately, but with long term concussion issues there is still so much uncertainty.

It was unfair for me to say KK was clogging our list, he was a cheery on top of the May deal that I could see a reason for us taking the punt and I genuinely hope he's able to recover from long term concussion issues.

with so many 'Landers saying 'no', I'm inclined to think it's a good idea.

I'd back Burgess to get him up and firing. Look at the horror injuries that soccer players suffer routinely and the trainer's simply spray the stuff and the players are good to go. Still a no for me.

Opp has to be taking the [censored] surely

sure lets get mccartin and daniher and give kk and nietzsche 2 year extensions

after all we've got plenty of list spots with 35 on the list next year

sheeesh 

5 hours ago, Pates said:

It's a different situation, we had Brayshaw on our list so we intimately knew his situation and everything that he was going through. We also did the same with Jetta so I'm well aware that the club has stuck with players suffering through concussion issues and come out the other side. But bringing on KK with his problems shows the risk you take when the player hasn't been regularly assessed by your own medicos and the inherit unpredictability when dealing with brain injuries.

Paddy might well be feeling good right now, but one knock could set him back to where he was 1 year ago. Or it could be he recovers immediately, but with long term concussion issues there is still so much uncertainty.

It was unfair for me to say KK was clogging our list, he was a cheery on top of the May deal that I could see a reason for us taking the punt and I genuinely hope he's able to recover from long term concussion issues.

 A reasonable person would say that you cannot say it's Ok to deal with the concussion issues with Brayshaw which by the way started after he was recruited and say : one knock could set" McCartin back.  One could say the same thing about Brayshaw... Seems to me double standards at play.

6 hours ago, Ohio USA - David said:

 A reasonable person would say that you cannot say it's Ok to deal with the concussion issues with Brayshaw which by the way started after he was recruited and say : one knock could set" McCartin back.  One could say the same thing about Brayshaw... Seems to me double standards at play.

Let me say it again David, it is not just a general concussion issue.