Training Ground?

[Whispering_Jack 29,961]

7 hours ago, Demonsone said:

Pie in the sky stuff if true & bloody frustrating that our club which is the oldest  and bears the name of the city continues to be treated in such a way from the state gvt with no solution yet they are funding 140 mill for Geelongs stadium .. it’s a disgrace 

I live nearby and can say categorically that the Caulfield Racecourse project is definitely not “pie in the sky”, nor is it something brand new. It’s been in the planning for a number of years and there has been consultation with the public and local organizations and sporting clubs with support from local politicians and councillors. The surrounding area is already undergoing a major transformation with housing and shopping developments, the expansion of Monash Caulfield and the coming redevelopment of the old stable areas. It would be remiss of the MFC not to consider the area for its new training ground - whether or not it happens, is obviously still to be determined.

[Satan 2,871]

3 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I live nearby and can say categorically that the Caulfield Racecourse project is definitely not “pie in the sky”, nor is it something brand new. It’s been in the planning for a number of years and there has been consultation with the public and local organizations and sporting clubs with support from local politicians and councillors. The surrounding area is already undergoing a major transformation with housing and shopping developments, the expansion of Monash Caulfield and the coming redevelopment of the old stable areas. It would be remiss of the MFC not to consider the area for its new training ground - whether or not it happens, is obviously still to be determined.

Is the wedge being wedged out?

[old dee 23,786]

Why do I feel this is a side show to keep us quiet on the eve of a GM where it will be a major concern from members. Having said that Caulfield has a lot better chance of success this decade than near the G. Just do it and forget about the G area. 

[Demonland 72,071]

15 hours ago, picket fence said:

Cripes Caulfield Racecourse??? HOW THE HELL AM I GOING TO GET IN THERE FOR TRAINING REPORTS??

On the plus side it is very close to Demonland HQ.

[old dee 23,786]

6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

On the plus side it is very close to Demonland HQ.

There is always one winner! Let's do it 

[whatwhat say what 22,732]

what's the community expectations of what the works were going to be on the upgrade, @Whispering_Jack? how will mfc becoming part of the precinct be received?

federal: goldstein - zoe daniel as an independent, on a 53% share after preferences and an 11% swing away from previous incumbent liberals

state: caulfield - david southwick for the libs, on a 52% share

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

This was one artist's impression of the redevelopment couple of years ago. Didn't realize how spacious the inner part of the track was.

[#11-TonyAnderson 774]

17 hours ago, picket fence said:

Cripes Caulfield Racecourse??? HOW THE HELL AM I GOING TO GET IN THERE FOR TRAINING REPORTS??

Jump the train at Cranbourne or the Pakenham line - straight to the Door!

[dice 705]

6 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I live nearby and can say categorically that the Caulfield Racecourse project is definitely not “pie in the sky”, nor is it something brand new. It’s been in the planning for a number of years and there has been consultation with the public and local organizations and sporting clubs with support from local politicians and councillors. The surrounding area is already undergoing a major transformation with housing and shopping developments, the expansion of Monash Caulfield and the coming redevelopment of the old stable areas. It would be remiss of the MFC not to consider the area for its new training ground - whether or not it happens, is obviously still to be determined.

There is no hope in today's economic climate and inflated building prices that this will occur. I mean how much would this development cost? More than a quarter of a billion?

Let's just accept what we have in the meantime (I mean we won a premiership with the current set up), consolidate and build up our finances over time and then seize the opportunity to find a home when the time is right

[old dee 23,786]

6 minutes ago, dice said:

There is no hope in today's economic climate and inflated building prices that this will occur. I mean how much would this development cost? More than a quarter of a billion?

Let's just accept what we have in the meantime (I mean we won a premiership with the current set up), consolidate and build up our finances over time and then seize the opportunity to find a home when the time is right

That is the reason we lost Olympic Park to the Pies. Now or never.

[dice 705]

Just now, old dee said:

That is the reason we lost Olympic Park to the Pies. Now or never.

No, we lost Olympic Park because our finances were sh*t at the time and McGuire/Brumby/Fildes did secret deals to secure it for Collingwood

[Redleg 40,889]

13 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Yep when I said grandstand I meant the racecourse ones. They could host your corporate and dining facilities. Definitely agree that you could sink the oval down a little and run maybe a one story low rise stand along a wing with some seats and weather protection. Some similarities to the Lions new venue.

The development area after removing all the trainers is huge. I think they'd appreciate a pool, gym, medical rooms, business shared spaces etc if they could be shared with the community. They could link in with Glen Eira College to help present the case to the government.

 

Absolutely.

Multiple entertainment areas in the existing facilities, that the MRC want utilised more than currently used.

This area has so many opportunities for expanded use.

The women playing their home games there on non race days and training on non men’s training days or on another oval, is further use which would appeal to community interests.

The main race days for Caulfield are in February and October with a few more during the year.

If we can get this done it will be sensational. We could go from the worst facilities in the AFL to the best.

[whelan45 203]

Caufield is just as good a location as the MCG precinct in my opinion. If you can set up larger facilities (oval, gym, pool, offices etc) it's a much better option. Multiple train lines run through Caufield. It's also a very attractive area for players / staff to live reasonably close to, which is more important than fans IMO

[No. 31 1,235]

I also live in the City of Glen Eira and the redevelopment of Caulfield Racecourse has been in the local media for years, it is not something new, it is definitely worthy of consideration because the land inside the track area is large and is not currently used, it really is dead space. There would be room for the Demons training base and also other community facilities/hospitality venues. In terms of location, it is near Caulfield Station which serves the Frankston, Pakenham and Cranbourne Lines (and the currently being rebuilt Glen Hunty Station on the Frankston Line is also just to the south of the racecourse). Also the area is really well served by Trams (64, 67 etc...) and buses. Community use aspects could easily be incorporated with different initiatives from Glen Eira LGA and also Glen Eira Secondary College to the south and Monash University (Caulfield Campus) to the north, border on the racecourse precinct. It wouldn't take much creativity to come up with development proposals with a community use angle that could attract substantial government funding.

Also, Glen Eira LGA is a major area of Demons fan support and in the old MFC historic recruitment zone. If there was one LGA in Greater Melbourne where the Demons had a demographic core, Glen Eira is probably it.

This could be a once in a generation opportunity for the Dees, it must be closely examined!

 

Edited February 6, 2023 by No. 31
typo

[wackojacko 25]

As a resident of tooronga rd, I welcome them. So easy to get there 

[Demon Disciple 12,118]

Caulfield racecourse would be ideal. If those equine pools are good enough for thoroughbreds, imagine the powers of recovery they’ll have on footy players……..then there’s all those health benefits of carrots

[whatwhat say what 22,732]

2 hours ago, wackojacko said:

As a resident of tooronga rd, I welcome them. So easy to get there 

do you happen to own the car that's bedecked in dees paraphernalia? i'm about 800m down the road...

[Demonland 72,071]

6 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

what's the community expectations of what the works were going to be on the upgrade, @Whispering_Jack? how will mfc becoming part of the precinct be received?

federal: goldstein - zoe daniel as an independent, on a 53% share after preferences and an 11% swing away from previous incumbent liberals

state: caulfield - david southwick for the libs, on a 52% share

Caulfield Racecourse is actually in the Federal Seat of Macnamara and is currently held by Labor and the member is Josh Burns.

[cantstandyasam 700]

2 hours ago, wackojacko said:

As a resident of tooronga rd, I welcome them. So easy to get there 

Walking distance for me 2.

[whatwhat say what 22,732]

41 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Caulfield Racecourse is actually in the Federal Seat of Macnamara and is currently held by Labor and the member is Josh Burns.

would adjust my post but it won't let me

federal: macnamara - josh burns of the labor party, on 62% after preferences, with an 8% swing to labor to make it safe rather than swing

[gOLLy 401]

This is Nonsense.

The G is our home and we must be next door.

Not negotiatable.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

8 hours ago, old dee said:

 Having said that Caulfield has a lot better chance of success this decade than near the G. Just do it and forget about the G area. 

Move the MCG to somewhere near Caulfield and all the boxes are ticked. There's a better chance of that than getting a training facility near Jolimont.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Take all this to the general meeting, ffs ranting about it on Demonland ain't gonna change a thing. You want change, make it happen. Draw up your proposal, ideas,  reasoning, present it formally and your be surprised at how much attention they'd pay to it.

[Redleg 40,889]

11 hours ago, old dee said:

Why do I feel this is a side show to keep us quiet on the eve of a GM where it will be a major concern from members. 

I must say that thought crossed my mind too.

[Redleg 40,889]

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

Caulfield Racecourse is actually in the Federal Seat of Macnamara and is currently held by Labor and the member is Josh Burns.

That will help.