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  On 15/10/2024 at 11:16, Its Time for Another said:

To be fair when the kid was born he’s talking about it was Israel and occupied by the indigenous population who I assume you are calling nowadays occupiers. Perhaps a discussion for a very different forum. There are plenty available elsewhere. 

There's a discussion there to be had, Groucho (I use that avatar-prompted label in positive, appreciative terms😊) but we should agree to just acknowledge eachother's different perspectives and move on back to footy n fun. And both of us trod lightly with our posts - well done us.

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      On 15/10/2024 at 12:08, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

    There's a discussion there to be had, Groucho (I use that avatar-prompted label in positive, appreciative terms😊) but we should agree to just acknowledge eachother's different perspectives and move on back to footy n fun. And both of us trod lightly with our posts - well done us.

    Yeh let’s just stick to the one true religion practiced here and on it’s one  sanctified ground.  

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      On 15/10/2024 at 09:55, Hawk the Demon said:

    By making that donation F&T you get to vote in the MFC Board elections. Ain't that worth something?

    Apart from a warm fuzzy feeling, not much.

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      On 15/10/2024 at 11:16, Its Time for Another said:

    To be fair when the kid was born he’s talking about it was Israel and occupied by the indigenous population who I assume you are calling nowadays occupiers. Perhaps a discussion for a very different forum. There are plenty available elsewhere. 

    he was born in 1948?

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      On 15/10/2024 at 09:28, Oxdee said:

    I’m developing a 4 storey apartment building with 40 apartments.. cost $17m.. $100m is exorbitant 

    Does seem high but we are building a high performance centre for elite footballers (pools, gyms, speialist rooms and probs enclosed court to try out drills in wet weather and behind closed doors etc, plus admin) it should be well north of $60 mill

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      On 15/10/2024 at 22:21, Fritta and Turner said:

    Does seem high but we are building a high performance centre for elite footballers (pools, gyms, speialist rooms and probs enclosed court to try out drills in wet weather and behind closed doors etc, plus admin) it should be well north of $60 mill

    ...and ovals!     Hawthorns new site development at Dingley is around the $120M mark 

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      On 15/10/2024 at 09:28, Oxdee said:

    I’m developing a 4 storey apartment building with 40 apartments.. cost $17m.. $100m is exorbitant 

    As someone with knowledge of the countless unfixed and largely unfixable issues in apartments built in the last 10 years I sure hope your development is of better quality. 

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      On 15/10/2024 at 22:38, george_on_the_outer said:

    ...and ovals!     Hawthorns new site development at Dingley is around the $120M mark 

    Agree...

    The published State Govt component for Dingley is under $20M. If we get that amount it may be hard to raise the rest. The other item that will increase costs is building within an active race course. The co-ordination to allow other activities doesn't come cheap... Schedule = Cost

    A simple example is will cranes need to be removed on race days so as not to interfere with line of sight viewing from the grandstands

    Edited by Diamond_Jim

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      On 15/10/2024 at 22:43, Diamond_Jim said:

    Agree...

    The published State Govt component for Dingley is under $20M. If we get that amount it may be hard to raise the rest. The other item that will increase costs is building within an active race course. The co-ordination to allow other activities doesn't come cheap... Schedule = Cost

    I will stay on course DJ I will believe it when I see it!

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      On 15/10/2024 at 22:43, Diamond_Jim said:

    Agree...

    The published State Govt component for Dingley is under $20M. If we get that amount it may be hard to raise the rest. The other item that will increase costs is building within an active race course. The co-ordination to allow other activities doesn't come cheap... Schedule = Cost

    A simple example is will cranes need to be removed on race days so as not to interfere with line of sight viewing from the grandstands

    Apart from playing fields I didnt think we were proposing to build inside the race course, rather on Booran? Rd

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      On 15/10/2024 at 23:51, Fritta and Turner said:

    Apart from playing fields I didnt think we were proposing to build inside the race course, rather on Booran? Rd

    Yes - the building element is outside the track - just a small pavillion inside the track, near the two ovals.

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      On 15/10/2024 at 10:16, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

    😄

    Though, at the risk of igniting any number, variety, orientation and strength of responses, to be strictly correct...

    ...The Occupied Territories.

    To be strictly correct, it was called the Kingdom of Judea but to be very clear, I would suggest that posters avoid taking this or any other thread on this site for a walk in that direction.

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    Absolutely no hope this Caulfield pipe dream gets realised any time soon, imo:

    • Relying on a broke state Labor government to chip in at least $50m
    • New MRC chairman, John Kanga, is a Collingwood supporter
    • The CRRT is chaired by a Sydney supporter, Sam Almaliki

    Edited by dice

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      On 16/10/2024 at 06:40, dice said:

    Absolutely no hope this Caulfield pipe dream gets realised any time soon, imo:

    • Relying on a broke state Labor government to chip in at least $50m
    • New MRC chairman, John Kanga, is a Collingwood supporter
    • The CRRT is chaired by a Sydney supporter, Sam Almaliki

    as far as kanga goes, collingwood would probably be happy to get their hands on a 2nd ground ... e.g. gosch's

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      On 16/10/2024 at 05:41, Whispering_Jack said:

    To be strictly correct, it was called the Kingdom of Judea but to be very clear, I would suggest that posters avoid taking this or any other thread on this site for a walk in that direction.

    You and I must have done the same catch-up googling, Jack? 😉

    Anyway, by mutual affirming emojing, @Its Time for Another and I, at least, have recommitted to the direction of the two true religions, fun n footy.

    ✌️

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      On 10/09/2024 at 10:42, chookrat said:

    While the State Government has issues with its budget I would expect they will contribute a comparable level of funding to what they do for other Victorian based teams. Once the feasibility study is complete I'd expect the State Government to set aside funding in its budget to be released on the business case being approved. 

    Expect, or hope???

      On 15/10/2024 at 11:16, Its Time for Another said:

    To be fair when the kid was born he’s talking about it was Israel and occupied by the indigenous population who I assume you are calling nowadays occupiers. Perhaps a discussion for a very different forum. There are plenty available elsewhere. 

    Not to put too fine a point on this subject of controversy, I had always thought that the area was occupied by the Romans at the time (source: Life of Brian). 

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      On 16/10/2024 at 06:40, dice said:

    Absolutely no hope this Caulfield pipe dream gets realised any time soon, imo:

    • Relying on a broke state Labor government to chip in at least $50m
    • New MRC chairman, John Kanga, is a Collingwood supporter
    • The CRRT is chaired by a Sydney supporter, Sam Almaliki

    You have conveniently overlooked that this facility is for community use also, not just for our training base. 

    In addition football allegiances is a very spurious reason to use twice. About the lowest reason to vote No. 

    This is not the MRO/ Tribunal   Chair both support Pies!! 

    State Local and Federal funds plus MCC and ours are all potentially in the mix. 

    My hopes annd expectations are that we will have our base before this decade is over. 

     

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      On 16/10/2024 at 11:05, monoccular said:

    Expect, or hope???

    Not to put too fine a point on this subject of controversy, I had always thought that the area was occupied by the Romans at the time (source: Life of Brian). 

    Correct! Amazing I made a small joke and it has developed into a debate on history of the Middle East. 

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      On 16/10/2024 at 14:30, 58er said:

    State Local and Federal funds plus MCC and ours are all potentially in the mix. 

    And if we include facilities for the umps, AFL as well

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      On 16/10/2024 at 22:55, old dee said:

    Correct! Amazing I made a small joke and it has developed into a debate on history of the Middle East. 

    This IS an amazing Place OD That's for sure! What else you got?

    Edited by Kent

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      On 16/10/2024 at 23:35, Kent said:

    This IS an amazing Place OD That's for sure! What else you got?

    Not much Kent too old to worry about it now. What I do know is in my lifetime it appears we have learnt little, are still killing each other on tribal grounds. 

    Edited by old dee

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      On 16/10/2024 at 23:50, old dee said:

    Not much Kent too old to worry about it now. What I do know is in my lifetime it appears we have learnt little, are still killing each other on tribal grounds. 

    I take it that's a reference to Maynard and Moore. 

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      On 16/10/2024 at 06:48, daisycutter said:

    as far as kanga goes, collingwood would probably be happy to get their hands on a 2nd ground ... e.g. gosch's

    The filth and the toiges both want Gosch's. It should be an entertaining scrap.

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      On 24/10/2024 at 20:33, Roger Mellie said:

    The filth and the toiges both want Gosch's. It should be an entertaining scrap.

    and the minute it becomes available for the filth, watch all blocking of closing it off and building infrastructure around it suddenly disappear

      On 24/10/2024 at 20:21, demosaw said:

    Article in the age this morning highlights funding gap

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-70-million-funding-gap-threatens-caulfield-home-base-plans-20241024-p5kl3o.html

    the issue with this sort of story is that it doesn't tell us anything that wasn't already known - there was always going to be a challenge about getting to the proposed $100m in terms of funding it

    if, in mid-2025, it's officially 'over' as a dream of a home base at caulfield, i am firmly of the belief that we need to seriously consider abandoning a precinct in the inner city as there's no real options available and go whole-hog out at casey

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