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41 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Is it? Has anyone  seen any analysis which compares the cost of going to the footy today compared with previous eras in real terms? I'd be surprised if "going to the footy" is materially more expensive. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the additional costs (food and beverage, primarily) are more expensive, but in my view, they are avoidable costs.  

Others may have better data, but I think I had a junior membership in the 1960's for $1 though my memory isn't great.  With the multitude of packages these days it's a bit unclear, but I think that is the same as a $71 junior membership now.  Using the well-known dim-sim inflation index, I reckon that the cost is about double now*.   Having paid a fortune for 5 to attend last year's QB match, I reckon it's worse for adults, but I don't have the figures. 

* This site would say that the value of a $1 in 1960 is $15 now whereas I assumed about $30-40. That would imply it costs 6 times as much now.  Of course there are other factors over such a long period of change. https://www.in2013dollars.com/australia/inflation/1960?amount=1

(I agree that food and beverage is avoidable.)

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    Someone has to 'pay' for the entertainment.....and salaries

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    21 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    I'm not sure what Saty, Baghdad and George will be more offended by...that they could ever be considered to be like Joffa or, by inference, with each other?

    I know I'd never be considered to be like any of them. I haven't got Saty's hair, I'm the wrong religion to be allowed anywhere near Baghdad and I don't sit in the outer. And as for Joffa? Well, I've got all my own teeth.

    HaHa. 

    Yeah good comment our crew including yourself are obviously in a different league.

    Certainly no offence meant.

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    7 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Someone has to 'pay' for the entertainment.....and salaries

    Yes, and we did in the 1960's too. 

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    1 hour ago, sue said:

    Yes, and we did in the 1960's too. 

    In the 1960s, the competition wasn't professional so (in real terms) player payments were substantially less. Ground facilities were much poorer, too, with most grounds having very little seating. On balance, I suspect the value for money proposition (again, in real terms) is today substantially better than it was in the 1960s.

    I also suspect (but would be happy to be proved wrong if the evidence is there) that the proportion of wages spent on attending football was less in the 1960s than it is today. What might make football seem to be relatively expensive is that society today has many more expenses overall so paying for attending football appears to be more painful.

    Or, to be more pithy and as the late Terry Jones might have said in an appropriate voice, "Luxury".

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    30 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    In the 1960s, the competition wasn't professional so (in real terms) player payments were substantially less. Ground facilities were much poorer, too, with most grounds having very little seating. On balance, I suspect the value for money proposition (again, in real terms) is today substantially better than it was in the 1960s.

    I also suspect (but would be happy to be proved wrong if the evidence is there) that the proportion of wages spent on attending football was less in the 1960s than it is today. What might make football seem to be relatively expensive is that society today has many more expenses overall so paying for attending football appears to be more painful.

    Or, to be more pithy and as the late Terry Jones might have said in an appropriate voice, "Luxury".

    The problem with the argument that 'facilties are better today' is that it neglects the general progress of society.  So I dismiss that.  But it would be interesting to know about the proportion of wages now and then.  But I can put it in terms of pocket money....   I'd have needed 5 weeks saving 100% of it in 1960 to buy an annual membership.  Do 9 year old kids today get 75/5=$15 a week?  Maybe they do?

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    On 2/4/2020 at 4:44 PM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Just to clarify, are you proposing taking May out of the defence permanently or just moving him forward should a need arise?  

    should a need arise.

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    With all the discussion about media coverage or lack of it, it seems we are not alone:

    Red & White Online: Swans Media

    stories of 11 day old interviews, pictures of new recruits not on the website, fluff articles etc......The Swannies have the same problems as us it seems, and they are sheeting it home to the AFL and Telstra, who own the websites....

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    5 hours ago, Demonland said:

    I'm not sure what people are complaining about.

     

    What the actual [censored] is this [censored]??

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    4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    In the 1960s, the competition wasn't professional so (in real terms) player payments were substantially less. Ground facilities were much poorer, too, with most grounds having very little seating. On balance, I suspect the value for money proposition (again, in real terms) is today substantially better than it was in the 1960s.

    I also suspect (but would be happy to be proved wrong if the evidence is there) that the proportion of wages spent on attending football was less in the 1960s than it is today. What might make football seem to be relatively expensive is that society today has many more expenses overall so paying for attending football appears to be more painful.

    Or, to be more pithy and as the late Terry Jones might have said in an appropriate voice, "Luxury".

    I have been a friend of the late Frank Adams since the early 70's. In a conversation 10 years ago he told me that first year draftees get more in their first year than he got for his entire  career. The game back in the sixties was not much above amateur. The only real money he  made out of footy was when he joined Channel 7. Times have sure changed. In lots of ways not for the better.

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    3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    What the actual [censored] is this [censored]??

    It makes me wonder if a Mfc media person reads Demonland and is trolling in response to the critique about needing more inner sanctum and behind the scenes content. Funny.

     

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    4 hours ago, Demonland said:

    I must say I like this content. More of this.

     

    Agree. I find it interesting the range of stuff they do in the gym. 

    Edited by binman

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    14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    What the actual [censored] is this [censored]??

    I think Cornes just asked them how preseason is going.

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    11 hours ago, binman said:

    It makes me wonder if a Mfc media person reads Demonland and is trolling in response to the critique about needing more inner sanctum and behind the scenes content. Funny.

     

    I would be disappointed if they didn't. It's their job to monitor all forms of media

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    13 hours ago, binman said:

    It makes me wonder if a Mfc media person reads Demonland and is trolling in response to the critique about needing more inner sanctum and behind the scenes content. Funny.

     

    The thought crossed my mind.

    It's not the only "coincidence" regarding what is discussed on here and what subsequently appears in the Media.

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    11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Workrate at its best. The kids knows football.

    Interesting the initial handball came from LJ - not sure about Kozzies first kick but follow up and evasive skills looked good 

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    45 minutes ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

    Kozzie magic!!!!!

    https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/560975/maroochydore-camp-kozzy-magic?videoId=560975&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1581030439001

     

     

    So desperate for footy now I’ve watched the clip about 20 times to see who’s out there. Looks like Max has plonked himself a kick behind the play, Tomlinson running up and down the wing and a couple of good handballs by the forwards whilst being tackled just before the finish by Kozzie.

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    25 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    Interesting the initial handball came from LJ - not sure about Kozzies first kick but follow up and evasive skills looked good 

    Kozzie certainly has that X factor however as you noticed in this clip and I noticed last Sundya that his disposal is just not there at the moment. He gets the ball OK however kicking to a team mate lets him down. Will improve I'm sure with more training.

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    28 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

    Kozzie certainly has that X factor however as you noticed in this clip and I noticed last Sundya that his disposal is just not there at the moment. He gets the ball OK however kicking to a team mate lets him down. Will improve I'm sure with more training.

    one of our biggest weaknesses 

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    38 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

    Kozzie certainly has that X factor however as you noticed in this clip and I noticed last Sundya that his disposal is just not there at the moment. He gets the ball OK however kicking to a team mate lets him down. Will improve I'm sure with more training.

    I actually thought that was a good kick, his teammate was caught behind 2 opponents and Kozzie cleverly spooned over the top into space more to his advantage where he could and did run on to it.

    If he had of hit it flat it would have gone to an opponent in front.

    Smart thinking...

     

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