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  On 07/11/2019 at 03:25, Sir Why You Little said:

You must be one of the few who has, Cheap Deal?

I like my car's to have a bit of grunt and nothing got close in my price range. Also think they are under rated. All of a sudden is not cool to own a Holden. But my black beauty goes well and rocks my boat when I look at it the drive way.

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      On 07/11/2019 at 04:32, old dee said:

    I like my car's to have a bit of grunt and nothing got close in my price range. Also think they are under rated. All of a sudden is not cool to own a Holden. But my black beauty goes well and rocks my boat when I look at it the drive way.

    Well that’s what counts. I think GM were wrong to continue the Holden Badge on European Opels. 
    Many Holden owners find the whole thing offensive 

    Ford were smart. The Mustang was already an icon

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      On 07/11/2019 at 04:32, old dee said:

    I like my car's to have a bit of grunt and nothing got close in my price range. Also think they are under rated. All of a sudden is not cool to own a Holden. But my black beauty goes well and rocks my boat when I look at it the drive way.

    Is that a good thing? Sounds dangerous to me. 

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      On 07/11/2019 at 04:58, Sir Why You Little said:

    Well that’s what counts. I think GM were wrong to continue the Holden Badge on European Opels. 
    Many Holden owners find the whole thing offensive 

    Ford were smart. The Mustang was already an icon

    If the Ranger didn't sell, Ford would be in a much worse position than Holden. It's the only car they can sell. 

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      On 07/11/2019 at 05:29, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

    If the Ranger didn't sell, Ford would be in a much worse position than Holden. It's the only car they can sell. 

    Both the Ranger and The Mustang are selling. 
    I don’t think the Commodore is at all, partly because of its name. Rusted on GMH customers won’t touch them 

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      On 07/11/2019 at 04:28, old dee said:

    it surprises me why some car companies bother with sponsorship of AFL teams. Take Jeep as an example in spite of being with Richmond for the last five years and winning 2 flags their sales continue to dive. You could say what would their sales be without Richmond? The same IMO. 

    Exposure OD. Brand building, Recognition. Demographics

    Premierships are nice but its not all about that for sponsors,

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      On 07/11/2019 at 08:46, jnrmac said:

    Exposure OD. Brand building, Recognition. Demographics

    Premierships are nice but its not all about that for sponsors,

    Spent all my working life in sales and if it does not sell more you don't do it. 

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      On 07/11/2019 at 04:28, old dee said:

    it surprises me why some car companies bother with sponsorship of AFL teams. Take Jeep as an example in spite of being with Richmond for the last five years and winning 2 flags their sales continue to dive. You could say what would their sales be without Richmond? The same IMO. 

    Imagine actually choosing to buy a Jeep.

    Easily the worst least reliable cars on the market.

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    Spotting a new Jag on the road is a fairly rare event

     

    At that price point most people buy a BMW

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      On 07/11/2019 at 08:54, old dee said:

    Spent all my working life in sales and if it does not sell more you don't do it. 

    When I was studying marketing (a long time ago) they said that "We know that about half of all advertising works, but nobody knows which half" 

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      On 07/11/2019 at 08:54, old dee said:

    Spent all my working life in sales and if it does not sell more you don't do it. 

    Sales: "we need to sell more sh*t"
    Accountant: "sounds good to me"

     

    Marketing: "we need to increase our brand awareness, leverage our synergy, innovate across our categories, and become an integral part of our customers' success stories. Oh yes, and something something social media."
    Accountant: "well ... if you say so ... it sounds like bulldust to me ..."
    Marketing: "and we'll get a corporate box at the G"
    Accountant: "deal"

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      On 07/11/2019 at 06:21, Sir Why You Little said:

    Both the Ranger and The Mustang are selling. 
    I don’t think the Commodore is at all, partly because of its name. Rusted on GMH customers won’t touch them 

    They sold 437 Mustangs in September, not exactly huge numbers. Ranger they absolutely knock out of the park. If they sold them at Colorado numbers they would be in serious strife.  Every single one of their other carlines are terrible sellers. 

    Holden has given up on Commodore and is pretty much just waiting for its commitments to Opel to expire out so it can stop importing them. Full disclosure, I work for Holden. 

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      On 08/11/2019 at 00:06, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

    They sold 437 Mustangs in September, not exactly huge numbers. Ranger they absolutely knock out of the park. If they sold them at Colorado numbers they would be in serious strife.  Every single one of their other carlines are terrible sellers. 

    Holden has given up on Commodore and is pretty much just waiting for its commitments to Opel to expire out so it can stop importing them. Full disclosure, I work for Holden. 

    I am glad the Commodore is going. It is almost offensive to see them on the road, considering what they really are. 
    i see heaps  of Mustangs on the road where i live, so i am only going on sight, that said, they do get noticed. 
    Rangers probably pass me all day, i don’t notice them. They are a fake 4wd that have sadly killed the wagon. 
    And  are much harder to get in and out of for older people. 

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      On 07/11/2019 at 10:41, sisso said:

    Spotting a new Jag on the road is a fairly rare event

    Actually saw one last night here in Hobart. Beautiful looking car.

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      On 08/11/2019 at 00:50, Sir Why You Little said:

    I am glad the Commodore is going. It is almost offensive to see them on the road, considering what they really are. 
    i see heaps  of Mustangs on the road where i live, so i am only going on sight, that said, they do get noticed. 
    Rangers probably pass me all day, i don’t notice them. They are a fake 4wd that have sadly killed the wagon. 
    And  are much harder to get in and out of for older people. 

    The VB Commodore shared the same design as the Opel. 1977 Opel Commodore was a thing before we produced them in Australia. And now that GM have sold Opel to Peugeot, that will stop Holden badges going on Opels.

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      On 08/11/2019 at 02:03, Youngwilliam said:

    The VB Commodore shared the same design as the Opel. 1977 Opel Commodore was a thing before we produced them in Australia. And now that GM have sold Opel to Peugeot, that will stop Holden badges going on Opels.

    Yes i know the history of the original Commodores. They needed Australian running gear in them, to survive out here, even if they looked the same. 
    Were never that good towing heavy loads (the chassis would often bend in the middle). 
    The Commodore became Australian and it is sad they were discontinued. The final Commodore was an excellent Car. 
    I bought Mazda Rotary’s back when Australian’s didn’t know what they were. They were great days

    Always loved the Jaguar though, and very happy (albeit a little suprised) they have stuck with us for another year. 
     

     

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    As an aside Jaguar are owned by Tata a massive Indian conglomerate. I think it's now run by the grandchildren of the original founder. Almost every truck in India is a Tata.

    Anyway not so many years ago (2008) Tata announced that they would build a car for the masses of India that would be very affordable. Price around $2k. They called it the Nano. In 2018 the project was cancelled after selling three cars. It out Edselled the Edsell not to mention the P76.

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    So now that jag have signed on will we be wearing the same jumper next year? And if not when will the 2020 jumper be available? 

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      On 12/11/2019 at 02:19, blue and red in the head said:

    So now that jag have signed on will we be wearing the same jumper next year? And if not when will the 2020 jumper be available? 

    I would've thought it would be the same as this years.

    Seems odd going into a new season with the same jumper

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      On 12/11/2019 at 02:41, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

    Not true, but not as far from the truth as I would like :(

    Neck and Neck?

    German Cars are all over Melbourne now

    VW, Mercedes, Audi and Porsche. 
    where are the GM products?

    Seriously i see about 2 a week now. 
     

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