8 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

I bloody hope not. I mark it down as the most miserable game of the year every year. The only thing we get out of it is wind-burn. 

Sorry, disagree, have been down there for 3 of those games now, fly down Friday come back Monday. Take one of the ferries across from Hobart/ Wrest Point. Red and Blue everywhere. Went to Salamanca Market before the game this year, Dees supporters everywhere, awash with Red Wine, Beer and Seafood. One day, a win will just be icing on the cake. I can tell you where to have the best breakfast afterwards as well.

1 minute ago, dworship said:

Sorry, disagree, have been down there for 3 of those games now, fly down Friday come back Monday. Take one of the ferries across from Hobart/ Wrest Point. Red and Blue everywhere. Went to Salamanca Market before the game this year, Dees supporters everywhere, awash with Red Wine, Beer and Seafood. One day, a win will just be icing on the cake. I can tell you where to have the best breakfast afterwards as well.

Also seems to have a record of tight contests there (that we mostly come out the loser sadly), but I went down there with mates a few years ago and we had a really good time. Nice town, the ground atmosphere wise it pretty dead but it's still kinda cool getting back to a local footy style feel.

1 minute ago, Pates said:

Also seems to have a record of tight contests there (that we mostly come out the loser sadly), but I went down there with mates a few years ago and we had a really good time. Nice town, the ground atmosphere wise it pretty dead but it's still kinda cool getting back to a local footy style feel.

I will mention one strange thing at the ground though, you can only buy Light /Mid strength beer. Why strange? You can buy Red and White wine and mixers that are all higher alcohol content than full strength beer. Not that it would worry we superior Melbourne types

9 hours ago, A F said:

The Geelong away game is ridiculous. There's no commercial justification for it either. We'd get more at the G against them than they would down at the Cattery.

I'm all for the game being a commercial beast, but this particular fixturing is neither fair or commercially just.

Threaten to forfeit ? Or run a Casey team

58 minutes ago, Pates said:

Also seems to have a record of tight contests there (that we mostly come out the loser sadly), but I went down there with mates a few years ago and we had a really good time. Nice town, the ground atmosphere wise it pretty dead but it's still kinda cool getting back to a local footy style feel.

That was a good weekend. Rip liver 

3 hours ago, Gunna’s said:

We can just complain to ombudsman that it’s not safe to play with the building cladding they have!!!

That's not as stupid as it sounds. The new grandstands could be on that secret govt. Cladding list.

Can Demonland please commence preparing an FOI submission along these lines.?

2 hours ago, Gunna’s said:

Try living in the town.......

I hate that they make finals due to a soft fixture then flunk it in September most years. 
 

I know asking for equality is just too much to ask for 

Same here. I live there and refuse to attend kardinia park. Its a deadset elitist club where you need a bank loan to reserve a decent seat. Vast majority of townsfolk can't afford to attend and the grounds development has sucked much needed grant capital funds from more important building upgrades.

Its got me stuffed why the locals follow. Having daid that there's been huge influx of new residents. And most are bemused by the parochialism of older  locals.

They say its a community facilitu also but try booking the facilities.

 

Lots of frequent flyer points again this year for the squad

Any other clubs have 7 interstate trips!?!?!?

8 minutes ago, W I S E said:

Any other clubs have 7 interstate trips!?!?!?

At least 8 others do

49 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Threaten to forfeit ? Or run a Casey team

We tried that a few years back. Lost by 31 goals.

1 hour ago, dworship said:

Sorry, disagree, have been down there for 3 of those games now, fly down Friday come back Monday. Take one of the ferries across from Hobart/ Wrest Point. Red and Blue everywhere. Went to Salamanca Market before the game this year, Dees supporters everywhere, awash with Red Wine, Beer and Seafood. One day, a win will just be icing on the cake. I can tell you where to have the best breakfast afterwards as well.

Oh don’t get me wrong, Tassie is beautiful for a holiday. The annual footy match there against North however, is a miserable affair!

Death, taxes and playing Geelong down at at Geelong..

18 minutes ago, W I S E said:

Any other clubs have 7 interstate trips!?!?!?

Interstate trips:

1. Hawthorn - 9 (but four are home games in Launceston)
2. North - 8 (but three are home games in Hobart) (plus Geelong)
3. Melbourne - 7 (but one is Alice Springs) (plus Geelong)
4. Essendon - 6
5. Richmond - 6
6. Geelong - 6
7. St Kilda - 6 (including China) (plus Geelong)
8. Bulldogs - 5 (plus Geelong)
9. Carlton - 5
10. Collingwood - 5

11 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

This is where the smart coach thinks about week 2.

Preuss to play so Gawn is not exhausted etc etc

a 0-2 start would see our season under the pump.

Couldn't agree more DJ

A feature I would like to see this year is use of the complete list. Pick teams on form, match up and peak and taper needs.

Nurse players if needed to maintain a consistent performance individually and for team.

Each position should have a set of players allocated as replacement and should be rewarded with selection if form warrants.

My personal point of view the two Perth games are good as we get to see the Dee's live twice in a year.  Though not the best to travel west twice.

First round will be busy as the ladies are playing at 1pm (Perth time) in Freo and then the men at 6.20pm.  I think that explains the very late game time for a Sunday afternoon.  Double demon delight that day.

This fixture is a shocker.  SO  many media "analysts" are saying it's a good draw because we play side who were weak this year twice.  So what?  They start out by exhausting our side with a trip to Perth to play in the hottest part of the day, then a six day break and back to play the runner's up from last season meaning we are pretty well guaranteed to start off 0-2 and bottom of the ladder.  The majority of our home games are against interstate sides meaning our crowds will be small and revenue low.  This is compounded by putting us in the Sunday afternoon slot more than any other team.  They will then use our low crowd numbers to justify not giving us any decent slots the year after as well.  It's possible that we'll recover from the first two rounds and do ok on the ladder, but we'll be relying on two matches to make up the financial loss we take on the rest and break even for the year. 

4 hours ago, dpositive said:

Couldn't agree more DJ

A feature I would like to see this year is use of the complete list. Pick teams on form, match up and peak and taper needs.

Nurse players if needed to maintain a consistent performance individually and for team.

Each position should have a set of players allocated as replacement and should be rewarded with selection if form warrants.

Seriously this approach while a "good idea at he time" is so flawed.

You would think we were the Tigers  with depth on every line! We saw in 2019 how we coped with injury to half the list and now want to voluntarily rotate young prospects that are clearly not AFL ready early in the season.

Yes maybe rest Gawny in a pocket more but please don't fly the white flag each week before the game has begun.

 

6 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Same here. I live there and refuse to attend kardinia park. Its a deadset elitist club where you need a bank loan to reserve a decent seat. Vast majority of townsfolk can't afford to attend and the grounds development has sucked much needed grant capital funds from more important building upgrades.

Its got me stuffed why the locals follow. Having daid that there's been huge influx of new residents. And most are bemused by the parochialism of older  locals.

They say its a community facilitu also but try booking the facilities.

 

Why is it close to sellouts each home game then D 17 ?

Sorry jealousy is a curse If I was a Cats fan I would be in heaven with 9 home games etc.

Guarantees them into the 8 each year also!

13 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

well  we played them at home  late one season in 2006 I think in front of a crowd of 75,000 at the MCG which we duly won. That was a ripping game. One of the best I've seen, behind only the Hawks / dees merger game.

Think that Cats game was the Olympic Torch preview game in 2000.

Gee no good games since 2000?

QB vs Pies with Jack W sprinting the winning  goal was a beauty !

16 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

It's a favourable fixture for us. Decent from both a game fixture and financial position.

Unless we absolute [censored] the bed again, we should win 12+ games, which means finals are realistic. It's up to the coaches now to create a different gameplan and not stubbornly stick to something outdated that is not working.

Sorry M'Lord I am glad you are not my bean counter!

Making money out of Freo Suns Port Even zGiants is not happening then 35,000 plus is necessary for Saints Bullies, 40,/50,000 for Swans if they are back in town and the Blockbusters vs Pies Tigers and Blues need 60,000 to 80,000 for a large  haul of funds.

This is  assuming we are in the mix for Finals, And no bad weather days! 

Thats  an average of about 40,000 each game over 10 games.

Nowhere near enough I would think even with this half glass full appraisal.

I am bullish about our turnaround but we have been delivered a right royal kick in the behind with this  home  draw and Money losing Mums Day vs Port to mop up!!

16 hours ago, A F said:

The Geelong away game is ridiculous. There's no commercial justification for it either. We'd get more at the G against them than they would down at the Cattery.

I'm all for the game being a commercial beast, but this particular fixturing is neither fair or commercially just.

It is for Geelong they make half a mill for each home gamecguaranreed with reserve seat sales!

2 hours ago, 58er said:

It is for Geelong they make half a mill for each home gamecguaranreed with reserve seat sales!

I know.

Champion Data has ranked the AFL teams’ fixtures from to the hardest to the softest - 

WHO HAS THE HARDEST 2020 AFL FIXTURE? CHAMPION DATA RANKS ALL 18 TEAMS

1 West Coast 
2 Hawthorn 
3 Gold Coast 
4 Essendon 
5 GWS 
6 Carlton 
7 Richmond 
8 North Melbourne 
9 Geelong 
10 St Kilda 
11 Collingwood 
12 Western Bulldogs 
13 Brisbane Lions 
14 Port Adelaide 
15 Adelaide Crows 
16 Melbourne 
17 Sydney Swans 
18 Fremantle

How do last year’s premiers (who played most of their games in the last half of 2019 on the MCG) end up with the 7th toughest draw?

5 hours ago, 58er said:

Seriously this approach while a "good idea at he time" is so flawed.

You would think we were the Tigers  with depth on every line! We saw in 2019 how we coped with injury to half the list and now want to voluntarily rotate young prospects that are clearly not AFL ready early in the season.

Yes maybe rest Gawny in a pocket more but please don't fly the white flag each week before the game has begun.

 

I'm certainly not flying any white flag. Totally the reverse. Pick a side that will win, based on form and match up.

We did see how we coped with injury and some players did step up when exposed to the higher standards but could not sustain it, others were not able to step up as not exposed to faster pace or bigger bodied opponents and higher intensity.

Intensity is a real key and I think we should have the depth of the Tigers and develop that through training the whole squad with an understanding of the competition for positions.