2019 AFL National Draft Thread

[Demon Dynasty 17,132]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

If you've got an iPhone, the NAB League app has footage of every player from every match. Not sure if it's available on Android. Probably the best way for general punter to see footage of these kids for now until the AFL website starts putting up highlights close to the draft.

Ok i have an ipad so that might do it.  Many thanks LT

[Watson11 2,246]

7 hours ago, Dante said:

That's changed now, this is an update 

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/27802450/afl-draft-power-rankings-rowell-back-top-afl-draft-nears

There are a lot of changes but Weightman is still outside the top 20.

Flanders at 4 with a good bio.

This one has Weightman just inside top 20. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2019-top-30-prospects-draft-rankings-afl-indicative-draft-order-matt-balmers-rankings-matt-rowell-noah-anderson/news-story/cb11a9251dd6a277a028f90551d5efa4
8 out of top 10 are Victorian. I suspect even recruiters read these rankings and then pay closer attention to the higher ranked players, which is maybe why guns like Cripps, Fyfe, Grundy etc are more likely to slip down to lower picks.
 

[Demon Dynasty 17,132]

2 hours ago, Watson11 said:

This one has Weightman just inside top 20. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2019-top-30-prospects-draft-rankings-afl-indicative-draft-order-matt-balmers-rankings-matt-rowell-noah-anderson/news-story/cb11a9251dd6a277a028f90551d5efa4
8 out of top 10 are Victorian. I suspect even recruiters read these rankings and then pay closer attention to the higher ranked players, which is maybe why guns like Cripps, Fyfe, Grundy etc are more likely to slip down to lower picks.
 

It has also been said (by the interstaters) that these rankings are too vic centric and that there's a few from out west that should be higher up and are getting a bit of a short shaft.

I noticed this mature age forward from the SANFL prelim played a very nice game.  Probably a tad short for what we need but apparantly he is rated the most accurate of any pro footballer going around at the mo including at AFL level...

 

[dworship 3,343]

On 10/16/2019 at 10:20 PM, A F said:

I reckon you take best available. That seems to be Taylor's philosophy too. Let's not go back to BP-like recruiting.

You do know we selected Jimmy Toumpas because of that philosophy.

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

On 10/17/2019 at 9:52 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Absolutely. This would be sensational.  Both could be absolute stars.  
 

Young’s delivery and aerial marking are exceptional.  

Kemp has all the qualities of a Dangerfield clone.  He’s worth grabbing and waiting 12 mths (if JT and Mahoney and Goody have the guts) 

It’s still Young at pick 3/4 and then likely at pick 8 it’s choice of Kemp (hopefully) or Stephens or Flanders or Ash. Though likely Crows may grab Dylan Stephens first. 

[Demonland 73,495]

 

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

Looking at the top 10, with the knowledge the top 2 are gone, we really can’t too badly from this selection.  3 and 8 should do us nicely, thank you!

[Demonland 73,495]

 

[whatwhat say what 23,451]

Two of Twomey’s also-see picks don’t make any sense for us - first cos there’s little chance a ruckman will go top 5 in the draft, and - outside of Green - us picking an inside mid with our first pick similarly doesn’t make any sense 

[Demon Dynasty 17,132]

Not that we need another genuine inside mid but there's a smokey who got a late invite to the combine after being left out of the Vic Metro's Squad.

Not overplaying the combine but just out of interest he came 8th in the vertical jump, 1st in the 20m sprint and 6th in the yo yo.

Supposed to have blistering break away (from congestion) speed which allows him to escape outside, with the 20m combine result appearing to back this up.  Something we truly lack with our core insiders at the moment and something i've been calling for us to address (as a weakness) for quite some time now.

I notice he was selected as an 'around the mark' player for the Aints in the Twomey article up there.

I'll try and check for some highlights off the NAB app tomorrow.  Some on Bomblitz are rating him in their top prospects (with Essendrug needing inside mids).

Anyone seen him up close who can shed some light i wonder?

Sam Philp

An inside midfielder with great speed, Philp has transformed his game to develop more hurt factor as the season went on, becoming a premier midfielder in the NAB League while many of his contemporaries were off with Metro or Country duties. When they returned he matched it with the best of them and could be one of the feel-good stories of the draft given he missed out on Metro selection. Just bullocks his way through stoppages and is hard to stop around the ground. His strong season was rewarded with a National Draft Combine invitation, meaning at least four clubs like what they saw in 2019.

Edited October 20, 2019 by Rusty Nails

[Lord Ivanhoe 311]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/10/20/8-delisted-players-who-deserve-another-shot/

[old55 23,836]

A cautionary tale on Draft prognostications. There's the good, the bad and the ugly in here:

 

[Fat Tony 5,306]

6 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

A cautionary tale on Draft prognostications. There's the good, the bad and the ugly in here:

 

The best player out of the 2017 draft was a mature age recruit with a chequered history and he went in the 20s.

Last year, two of the best recruits were undrafted (Stack) and a mid-season draftee who had been in prison (Pickett).

[Whispering_Jack 31,144]

14 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

A cautionary tale on Draft prognostications. There's the good, the bad and the ugly in here:

 

Love it. I think that’s what makes pick 97 all the more alluring. 

[old55 23,836]

Some of the good in that thread was rating Worpel much higher than he went.

[olisik 4,060]

If we are considering 8 for Weightman, wouldn’t it make sense to just bid pick 3 on Henry to [censored] up freo. We consider 3-8 being of the same quality anyway. Pick 3 Henry (Best small forward in the draft) and 8 on Stephens or Kemp.

I prefer Henry/Stephens over Weightman/Young.

Worse case it will chew up Freos pick 7.

Edited October 21, 2019 by olisik

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

20 minutes ago, olisik said:

I prefer Henry/Stephens over Weightman/Young.

That's all well and good and it may turn out to be the best one could make, i guess we'll see what JM, JT and SG value if do further pick trades and who we draft.

[The Great Pretender 480]

Sometimes, the experts just get it wrong. Worpel was considered a solid footballer as a 16 to 18 year old but the perception out there was that he was too slow. As a result, he fell out of favour but he’s worked very hard under Clarkson and has been a real achiever.

Charlie Spargo was regarded very highly as a 16 year old but his problem was that he never grew. That, together, with his injury woes in his draft year, saw his stocks fall in his draft.

Such things are likely to happen over again as time goes by no matter how much money and how many personnel the clubs employ to do their recruiting.

[Demonland 73,495]

 

[Dees247 140]

38 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Thinks Flanders is a chance at 3, along with Young. Also says that the Dees are considering trading 3 for two picks in the teens (wtf?)..

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

50 minutes ago, Dees247 said:

Also says that the Dees are considering trading 3 for two picks in the teens (wtf?)..

If that were to be the case, we may as well just burn down the entire joint.

[Dees247 140]

22 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

If that were to be the case, we may as well just burn down the entire joint.

It’s a worry, this guy is meant to be one of the experts

[durango 2,023]

He also said Scully and Trengrove were the best 2 in the year we ignored Martin

[MikeAlphaTango 150]

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2019/11/04/2019-afl-draft-guide-released/

AFL draft central have released their draft guide. Profiles on 130+ players and includes  stats for U18 champs plus NAB/State leagues.

[deebug 1,754]

On 11/1/2019 at 9:06 PM, Dees247 said:

Thinks Flanders is a chance at 3, along with Young. Also says that the Dees are considering trading 3 for two picks in the teens (wtf?)..

They better not give our picks for later picks? 

I hope they are not that stupid?