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When big clubs stop being big clubs

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Yep. He is dead right. I don’t like Josè at all. But he is spot on with this one. 

To get bigger we have to expect to be big, amongst other things. I know many are not in favour of Pert, but he knows how to run big organizations 

Melbourne. Fastest growing City in Australia, we have to use that....

Interesting times

 

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    The quote relates directly to Carlton as well, Bolton was happy with an honourable loss where they tried hard. You’re never going to escape the bottom when you have a coach like him. 

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    30 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Yep. He is dead right. I don’t like Josè at all. But he is spot on with this one. 

    To get bigger we have to expect to be big, amongst other things. I know many are not in favour of Pert, but he knows how to run big organizations 

    Melbourne. Fastest growing City in Australia, we have to use that....

    Interesting times

     

    He may be dead right but in our case the horse bolted five decades ago. Sadly we are the club he warns about and thoroughly entrenched in mediocrity. 

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    I'm just glad we beat them. Fell over the line after Champions League commitments midweek.

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    14 minutes ago, america de cali said:

    He may be dead right but in our case the horse bolted five decades ago. Sadly we are the club he warns about and thoroughly entrenched in mediocrity. 

    I still think we can extricate ourselves from mediocrity, but it will take a huge effort and serious time, Years like 2019 can kill so much previous work though, that I agree 

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    We have 5 decades of accepting defeats & saying it was a great effort! Understand you need to take positives but I just wonder is this ingrained into our club we just continue to accept seasons like 2019 as the norm? Question is would the hawks, cats, swans accept it?

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    The only solace about supporting an unsuccessful club is I can’t turn up to the G at 2:10 and get a cracking seat. 

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    4 minutes ago, Nelo said:

    The only solace about supporting an unsuccessful club is I can’t turn up to the G at 2:10 and get a cracking seat. 

    I get upset if I don't get a whole section of stand to myself these days.

    Went to see Bombers play Port at Docklands. Had to sit beside someone.... very strange

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    1 hour ago, america de cali said:

    He may be dead right but in our case the horse bolted five decades ago. Sadly we are the club he warns about and thoroughly entrenched in mediocrity. 

    In 2013 I pined for mediocrity.

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    Listening to Cotchin say that it’s not about lifting the cup up for the 2nd time it’s about creating a culture that will continue long after his gone. 

    Thats leadership!

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    Listening to Cotchin say that it’s not about lifting the cup up for the 2nd time it’s about creating a culture that will continue long after his gone. 

    Thats leadership!

    Im sure he actually meant  after he's gone. His kinda dumb though so it wouldn't surprise me.

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    We stopped being a big club when we allowed Richmond to share "our ground" in 1965 and worse, being kicked off it in 1985

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    Listening to Cotchin say that it’s not about lifting the cup up for the 2nd time it’s about creating a culture that will continue long after his gone. 

    Thats leadership!

    Mr Leader Cotchin is lucky that the AFL have the odd views that they do. Mr Leader Cotchin got himself rubbed out for their last flag, now that's leadership ... oh what's that? He got to play in it? How about that.

    What he should be wishing for is that he gets to lift the cup for the first time.

    (PS I'm not having a shot at you, D1. I'm having a shot at the AFL.)

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    Chelsea only became a big club when Roman Abramovich decided to park his oil wealth in SW6 and will stop being one when he finds a new favourite toy. 

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    Sounds like wrist slashing to me!

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    4 hours ago, Demonsone said:

     

    Listening to Cotchin say that it’s not about lifting the cup up for the 2nd time it’s about creating a culture that will continue long after his gone. 

    Thats leadership!

    No, that's fluff...

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    4 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Chelsea only became a big club when Roman Abramovich decided to park his oil wealth in SW6 and will stop being one when he finds a new favourite toy. 

    sadly that is the EPL these days .... hard to get off the merry go round.

    Bit like the AFL and the gambling coys but many times worse

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    5 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    sadly that is the EPL these days .... hard to get off the merry go round.

    Bit like the AFL and the gambling coys but many times worse

    Yes and no. Leicester showed what's possible with great man management, confidence, and passion.

    Atletico Madrid are another that punch well above their weight in Spain.

    But point taken its difficult to consistently beat Man City/Liverpool/Chelsea/Man U etc in the Premier League with inflated budgets, and access to the best of everything.

     

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    I think there's something to be said about Langer's attitude during the last Ashes test. He wasn't a happy camper at all when we lost that match to end up 2-2, despite retaining the urn.

    I loved that, and would love to see more of that hard edge in Goodwin when it comes to 'honourable losses'.

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    Our culture has been soft and haven't learnt to be tougher and angry when being beaten by a big margins or a small  one.

    Going to the game and being beaten by 10 goals and applauding our team off for trying doesn't go well for building a winning culture however hard you try. Players get the sense of security that at least they are having a go. That is B SHIYT.............

    Mourinho has a point and l agree many others would to.  We once upon a time  was a big club and to be one again the club needs to be ruthless and that is the nature of the sport.  

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    5 hours ago, Luther said:

    I think there's something to be said about Langer's attitude during the last Ashes test. He wasn't a happy camper at all when we lost that match to end up 2-2, despite retaining the urn.

    I loved that, and would love to see more of that hard edge in Goodwin when it comes to 'honourable losses'.

    Yep, and when the club sent out the email to supporters about the coming forum the letter from the Prez & CEO stated we wanted to be up there and challenging for a Premiership consistently.

    Only words but they should really have committed to winning the thing not just challenging...

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    6 hours ago, Luther said:

    I think there's something to be said about Langer's attitude during the last Ashes test. He wasn't a happy camper at all when we lost that match to end up 2-2, despite retaining the urn.

    I loved that, and would love to see more of that hard edge in Goodwin when it comes to 'honourable losses'.

    What kind of ridiculous brain fade made them bowl first in the Final Test. That pitch was fine. Game over straight away

    Paine should step down after that

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