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3 hours ago, binman said:

One thing I was surprised at was that goody never experimented with a set play of frosty taking a kick out, playing on and running for the 20 metres that gift them and roosting a torp 60 metres down the ground to a predertimined area (a predetermined spot would be a tad optimistic) to say maxy. That would get the ball well over half way.

I said the very same thing here last night ... do what you do,  do well (and all that)

Team rules should always carry nuance when factoring in players strengths and weaknesses

For instance,  Robbie Flower's long handball to position probably wouldn't suit Goodwin's style.  But it is a weapon rarely seen in today's rigid style of football

Goodwin needs to let the players show their individual traits. 

Hardwick now lets his players play.  And it all fits together well.

 
17 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Get it right 

Had his best year and continues to improve 

run and carry

played all 22 games

fit and firing

9th in B&F 

Fastest player on our list (2nd fastest in AFL...?)

Destroys key forwards in match ups (completely shut down Ben Brown in round 23)

26 year old

Sure had some clangers but not alone there 

 

but we don’t even offer a contract !!! Ridiculous 

No wonder he is talking and walking to elsewhere 

 

 

Could not agree more

Club will look like idiots again

 
3 minutes ago, Macca said:

 

For instance,  Robbie Flower's long handball to position probably wouldn't suit Goodwin's style.  But it is a weapon rarely seen in today's rigid style of football

 

Funnily enough tigers are using the really long handball to clear an area quite a bit. 

Robbie was beautiful hand baller wasn't he. On both sides. What a player.  With his skills and running ability would thrive in today's footy. 

20 minutes ago, Kent said:

Could not agree more

Club will look like idiots again

I'm a betting man. And i'm willing to be that some DL posters are more likely to look like idiots again (not you Kent).

Actually what i'll bet is that some DL posters will take any frost highlight for the rest of his career as proof positive we made a howler in trading him and Hawks are genius. And hawk fans who watch him week in and week and out will weep at recruiting Frostball.


33 minutes ago, binman said:

Funnily enough tigers are using the really long handball to clear an area quite a bit. 

Robbie was beautiful hand baller wasn't he. On both sides. What a player.  With his skills and running ability would thrive in today's footy. 

That aside I found it stunning that Goodwin quite openly admitted that he didn't coach the fundamentals this season

We're looking for the 'Extra's' and the basics get ignored?

What the hell are we paying the bloke 800k per year to do?  Serious question.

And whatever happened to 'Fearless Football'?  Now sounding a lot like "We'll be the hardest Team to Play Against'

1 hour ago, Vineytime said:

So what’s he worth on the trade table early pick in the 30’s ??

On trade radio they're saying pick 47. Rather he stay than get that late a pick.

Feels like ground hog day here replace Frosts name with Watts, Silvia, Travis Johnstone or woewodin and it’s the same discussion, other than Stef Martin and Howe I can’t think of a single player in the last 20 years I regret losing, and I don’t think we had a choice with the last 2

 
3 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

On trade radio they're saying pick 47. Rather he stay than get that late a pick.

Problem is, he is worth more than 47 but not worth pick 27.. he is an early 30s pick.

18 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm a betting man. And i'm willing to be that some DL posters are more likely to look like idiots again (not you Kent).

Actually what i'll bet is that some DL posters will take any frost highlight for the rest of his career as proof positive we made a howler in trading him and Hawks are genius. And hawk fans who watch him week in and week and out will weep at recruiting Frostball.

Maybe you are right Bin but I have seen enough to give him the benefit of more development as compared to others being kept on the list ANB good grief. How could any sane coach continue to play Oscar instead of Frost says it all really.

Goodwins' stubborn view won't let him reconsider Frost as he marked his card very early.

Anyway I guess all will be revealed next season

 


Did anyone watch this year? Frost had some clangers. But others were as bad!  How does ANB get a new contract? 

Did anyone watch Frost beat Riewoldt, Josh Kennedy Naughton Ben-Brown Franklin this year. Players who usually kick a bag on us. 

Yet Oscar McDonald gets goal after goal scored on him and is slow and ineffective.  Sure Oscar does not get clangers and thats because he does not get the ball and when he does it’s a 12 metre pass sideways. 

Goodys losing me with his decisions 

16 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Feels like ground hog day here replace Frosts name with Watts, Silvia, Travis Johnstone or woewodin and it’s the same discussion, other than Stef Martin and Howe I can’t think of a single player in the last 20 years I regret losing, and I don’t think we had a choice with the last 2

That’s an interesting perspective. I’ve tried to think of more players, but I’m a little stumped. Had Jesse Hogan reached a new level this year, he might have been a contender. Alas, he did not. 

this gives me the same feeling as Martin to Brisbane. He gave a point of difference, great athlete who was not great with ball in hand but was getting better. Back then I hoped we got a second rounder, then gave him off voluntarily for a pack of twisties. big mistake.

at least play hard ball. we played a second rounder when he was untried, now hes worth a second rounder which is speculative anyway. otherwise no deal.

6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Did anyone watch this year? Frost had some clangers. But others were as bad!  How does ANB get a new contract? 

Did anyone watch Frost beat Riewoldt, Josh Kennedy Naughton Ben-Brown Franklin this year. Players who usually kick a bag on us. 

Yet Oscar McDonald gets goal after goal scored on him and is slow and ineffective.  Sure Oscar does not get clangers and thats because he does not get the ball and when he does it’s a 12 metre pass sideways. 

Goodys losing me with his decisions 

Reiwoldt was too good for us so not sure. which match ? Franklin was not beaten by Frost.

 

agree Oscar is just not AFL standard.


1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I’ll back the club on this one.

Everything we do in trade week and list management turns to gold....

Hahhahahhhaha thats ripe Powelly

26 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

On trade radio they're saying pick 47. Rather he stay than get that late a pick.

Sounds right.

Hawthorn usually get their man and their mantra is to pay unders for him. Same with Geelong.

If you want to win a deal in trade week, Hawthorn would be the last team you’d deal with.

2 hours ago, roy11 said:

Is it that disrespectful? At the end of the day a lot of our cap has gone to May and Lever. Need to sacrifice somewhere to make changes. If he wants/can get more money elsewhere then good on him

I'm with you & good on Frosty, however, in my opinion his ability is undervalued & more importantly needed, especially after our disastrous year.

Yes, disrespectful to answer your question.....totally. You don't sacrifice a player that is critical to the 6,6,6, set up.

Just stupid.

 

30 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

On trade radio they're saying pick 47. Rather he stay than get that late a pick.

 

Would take that in a heartbeat.

I  think I have defended Frost more than most over the journey and loved his frenetic runs, I will be sad to see him go.  However sheer speed from the backline is not what we need but rather consistent and reliable ball movement. It's trite to say the ball in the air travels faster than anyone can run. If you look at richmond it was all about ball movement out of defence with kicks that retained possession either directly or to advantage. Frost doesn't fit that bill and if he wants overs then sadly he must go. The additional issue with his runs was he left the defence one short. I think that was the May heated discussion. A clearing kick to advantage leaves the structure intact.  


1 minute ago, Mach5 said:

 

Would take that in a heartbeat.

Regardless if you're a fan of Frost - or not as the case may be -  I think pick 47 is a pretty poor return from our perspective.

7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Sounds right.

Hawthorn usually get their man and their mantra is to pay unders for him. Same with Geelong.

If you want to win a deal in trade week, Hawthorn would be the last team you’d deal with.

Guess which club would be the first you want to deal with if hunting a "win"......................

Shame we cant trade with ourselves 

:roos:

 

38 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Problem is, he is worth more than 47 but not worth pick 27.. he is an early 30s pick.

Easily fixed, will give Gildo a call and see if GCS can have some more priority picks.

 
12 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Regardless if you're a fan of Frost - or not as the case may be -  I think pick 47 is a pretty poor return from our perspective.

That’s a shocker if true. Hawks are masters at screwing others in trading 

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Your opinion is just an opinion like mine  Im talking about real improvement ! But its ok if you disagree 

For your opinion to be credible you need to back it up with reasoning.  Tell how James Harmes hasn't improved since he joined the club?


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