It’s a yes to Butler for a 50+ pick.  Maybe 4th round swap pick 57.  He’s not worth any more.  Swap for Spargo any day!! 

I have no interest in Butler but would still swap him for ANB.

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

The AFL’s definition of a tackle is below. I only knew that the initial tackler (as long as the initial tackle falls into the definition of a tackle) is the one one given the stat because I was watching a game one day and there appeared to be many more tackles in it than what the stats stated. 

When a player stops an opposition player with possession of the ball from getting his kick or handball away in a legal manner, or reduces the effectiveness of the opposition's disposal. The tackler's action must change the course of play.

Thanks Ethan.

Given that definition, we laid very few tackles this year. 

We are however, very good at the one armed, brushed off, attempted tackle.

Handy player with more composure and better skills than ANB, Stretch, JKH etc.

If someone improves your list and can be acquired at value, you look at him.

42 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

Handy player with more composure and better skills than ANB, Stretch, JKH etc.

If someone improves your list and can be acquired at value, you look at him.

Welcome back Matsuo. You’re persistent, I’ll give you that. 

Edited September 2, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

Where’s Tiger Dan Butler at?

Can confirm Dan Butler is meeting with his management today to discuss his future. If he gets an offer from elsewhere, he might be off.

AFL trade news blog with Tom Morris

 

5 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Where’s Tiger Dan Butler at?

Can confirm Dan Butler is meeting with his management today to discuss his future. If he gets an offer from elsewhere, he might be off.

AFL trade news blog with Tom Morris

 

Toured Carlton’s facilities today I think reported on Channel 7? 

Now that we’re done looking at Elliot, how about this bloke. 

2017: 30.15 from 23 games

2018: 18.10 from 15 games

2019: 5.3 from 7 games

Won’t be shooting the lights out, however would do well in our forward system .

That 2017 year where he was involved in the Tigers premiership tilt kicking 30 odd with 5 or 6 as well during the finals series amongst the likes of Rioli, Caddy and Castagna is pretty decent indicator of his ability. Would certianly come cheap in terms of both $$$ and picks. I don’t think he’s gone that far backwards, simply others like Bolton have gone past him. 

Kicked 21 from 15 games this year in the VFL which isn't amazing, however a fresh start could be exactly what he needs to get back into form, much like Sam Lloyd's move to the doggies has rejuvenated his career into an almost 2 goal a game player. Could definitely exceed 25+ goals for a small forward which would really compliment our forward mix which is imo far too reliant on taking marks inside 50 especially given how atrocious our delivery is.

Edited October 7, 20195 yr by AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey

His numbers are pretty average. There arent many decent Goal scoring options available outside of Elliott and Daniher.
 

We should’ve just kept Garlett.

11 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

His numbers are pretty average. There arent many decent Goal scoring options available outside of Elliott and Daniher.
 

We should’ve just kept Garlett.

Unfortunately Jeffy seemed to be on a gradual downward spiral (mentally switching off?) from the moment this came out LT.  And i'm not saying this was the cause but was it another Champion Data lead curse!??...

DEMON IS BEST SMALL FORWARD IN THE COMP: LUFF

BY SEN 2 YEARS AGO

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Champion Data’s Glenn Luff has used a number of key performance indicators to find the most valuable small forward of the 2017 season thus far, and it is a player that almost no-one would’ve guessed.

While talking on SEN’s Pure Footy, Luff has concluded that Jeff Garlett is the most efficient small forward in the AFL at the moment, using measures such as forward half pressure points, groundball gets inside 50, forced turnovers and average goals scored to make his decision....

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/05/18/demon-is-best-small-forward-in-the-comp-luff/

16 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

His numbers are pretty average. There arent many decent Goal scoring options available outside of Elliott and Daniher.
 

We should’ve just kept Garlett.

I dont exactly see them growing on trees at the moment. Garlett was far too cooked  to persist with, imagine the uproar here if we passed on Elliot, Butler and Gray to keep him?

This is one of our main deficiencies at the MFC, will be extremely disappointed if we don't bring in a ready made small forward.

Dan Butler fits the bill nicely age demographic, stats wise etc.

Get it done MFC.

1 minute ago, Win4theAges said:

This is one of our main deficiencies at the MFC, will be extremely disappointed if we don't bring in a ready made small forward.

Dan Butler fits the bill nicely age demographic, stats wise etc.

Get it done MFC.

He’s the right age, but is there much potential improvement in him? Stats-wise, he seems a worse version of Neal-Bullen and hardly worth targeting. Tigers are happy to let him go. He’s the JKH of their list!

10 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

He’s the right age, but is there much potential improvement in him? Stats-wise, he seems a worse version of Neal-Bullen and hardly worth targeting. Tigers are happy to let him go. He’s the JKH of their list!

Would rather Cody Weightman TBH.

9 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

He’s the right age, but is there much potential improvement in him? Stats-wise, he seems a worse version of Neal-Bullen and hardly worth targeting. Tigers are happy to let him go. He’s the JKH of their list!

JKH or more a stay at home defensive "pressure" forward LT.  We have lost pretty much our only genuine one in Jeffy and we got a little from Tracc when he was playing there but sounds like he'll be spending significantly more time in the mid.

Carlton have lost interest. Obviously too many other irons in the fire.

He looked cooked against us in the return game.

39 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

He’s the right age, but is there much potential improvement in him? Stats-wise, he seems a worse version of Neal-Bullen and hardly worth targeting. Tigers are happy to let him go. He’s the JKH of their list!

ANB doesnt have any sort of speed to apply pressure or be that goal sneak forward. I get that Butler doesnt exactly shoot the lights out as an option but its a department we severely lack in now that Garlett is gone. The club surely wouldnt have turfed him knowing that we wouldnt replace him, hence the interest in Elliot. The only 2 we have right now that could fulfill that develop into that who have some experience in the seniors are Baker or Lockhart. Butler wont cost much, and at worst would be on a 2 year or so deal so if doesnt work out we move on.

He was very good for the Tigers in 2017 when he won a flag with them. His pressure and tackling in the forward 50 was elite. 

Walk up start as a small forward in our best 22 imo so it’s a yes from me.

If he can get back to the pace, tackling pressure and goal sense of 2017, he would be a steal.  His intensity is very good.  Something lacking in our prior small forwards.  

 

6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

What a headline.  The article merely suggests he might be someone we could look at based on the fact we missed out on Elliott.  At no point is there any evidence from either club or player that we have even a small amount of interest in him.

9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

What a headline.  The article merely suggests he might be someone we could look at based on the fact we missed out on Elliott.  At no point is there any evidence from either club or player that we have even a small amount of interest in him.

It's the most wonderful time of the year ...

What’s his main attribute ? Is he quick?

Not a huge highlight reel but skip to 1:26 1:47 6:20 6:30