On 25/08/2019 at 06:46, Ugottobekidding said:

Owe.... wont be in the best 22

Might not be, but he deserves another year and will get it.

Where he plays will be up to his form.

We have plenty to move on, while keeping him and he will likely retire next year.

Can't get rid of 15 players, even though we on DL might want to.

 

  On 25/08/2019 at 07:52, Sir Why You Little said:

It was the right thing to do. Junior didn’t like it

we are far too soft on older players

With Lewis gone, we have how many players over 30?

Oh that's right, only one. He of course won 3 B & F's in a row and stayed loyal while we were sh-t. He is not in our worst 8 players and therefore on a number of grounds deserves another year. Would hurt the club massively through the AFL if we dumped him this year.Would speak volumes of our culture.

Hardly soft I would have thought.

PS. Don't bring up Hodge, Lewis and Roughhead, as the Hawks have half their list over 30.

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:21, Redleg said:

With Lewis gone, we have how many players over 30?

Oh that's right, only one. He of course won 3 B & F's in a row and stayed loyal while we were sh-t. He is not in our worst 8 players and therefore on a number of grounds deserves another year. Would hurt the club massively through the AFL if we dumped him this year.Would speak volumes of our culture.

Hardly soft I would have thought.

PS. Don't bring up Hodge, Lewis and Roughhead, as the Hawks have half their list over 30.

Junior’s hammy’s had gone

he needed a year off before he went to GW$

everyone forgets that

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:24, Sir Why You Little said:

Junior’s hammy’s had gone

he needed a year off before he went to GW$

everyone forgets that

Not disagreeing with that.

Isn't jones being offered a contract of about 270,000 with performance based contracts on top. If he isn't in the best 22 then he wont get the performance based contracts. I think he is unhappy about this but in reality his form isn't good enough and he is no longer a captain. This may be a way that Melbourne is trying to manage the situation.

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:33, dl4e said:

Isn't jones being offered a contract of about 270,000 with performance based contracts on top. If he isn't in the best 22 then he wont get the performance based contracts. I think he is unhappy about this but in reality his form isn't good enough and he is no longer a captain. This may be a way that Melbourne is trying to manage the situation.

 

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:21, Redleg said:

With Lewis gone, we have how many players over 30?

Oh that's right, only one. He of course won 3 B & F's in a row and stayed loyal while we were sh-t. He is not in our worst 8 players and therefore on a number of grounds deserves another year. Would hurt the club massively through the AFL if we dumped him this year.Would speak volumes of our culture.

Hardly soft I would have thought.

PS. Don't bring up Hodge, Lewis and Roughhead, as the Hawks have half their list over 30.

Jones is respected in AFL levels for staying with a crap team, reality is no one was really ever interested or enquired about him, and he always stood to earn almost 100% more staying at Melbourne than another club at the next highest salary. From a playing perspective he is well passed it, our Ritchie Vandenverg equivalent and it is time he is moved on. 

I have said it for years that we won't truly be able to move on from the Bailey and Neeld years until any and all leaders from that era are moved on. Jones' leadership traits appear at odds with Gawn's, and I can't imagine seeing -- nor have I ever seen -- the likes of Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw following Jones' leadership. 

I've long been of the opinion that Jones is of an old-school brigade of ol' Melbourne boys, the boys club is gone and you have a new brigade coming through.

If we want to keep the likes of Oliver, Trac and Brayshaw, we need to let this new brigade take charge.

Thanks for your service, here is your life membership, bye Jones. 

Let's stop wasting time money and list space on momentum killers and spuds. We have done more than enough to support and empower Jones to be the best player and bloke he can be. It's time to move on. We finished 17th ffs, and his leadership quality and body language this season was poor. He is a perennial loser.

Edited August 25, 20195 yr by praha

i loved jones dedication to the club, but their is a time and place to call it quits and this is the time.  He should see if he can help out at Casey mentoring and helping our younger players.

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:52, praha said:

 

Jones is respected in AFL levels for staying with a crap team, reality is no one was really ever interested or enquired about him, and he always stood to earn almost 100% more staying at Melbourne than another club at the next highest salary. From a playing perspective he is well passed it, our Ritchie Vandenverg equivalent and it is time he is moved on. 

I have said it for years that we won't truly be able to move on from the Bailey and Neeld years until any and all leaders from that era are moved on. Jones' leadership traits appear at odds with Gawn's, and I can't imagine seeing -- nor have I ever seen -- the likes of Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw following Jones' leadership. 

I've long been of the opinion that Jones is of an old-school brigade of ol' Melbourne boys, the boys club is gone and you have a new brigade coming through.

If we want to keep the likes of Oliver, Trac and Brayshaw, we need to let this new brigade take charge.

Thanks for your service, here is your life membership, bye Jones. 

Let's stop wasting time money and list space on momentum killers and spuds. We have done more than enough to support and empower Jones to be the best player and bloke he can be. It's time to move on. We finished 17th ffs, and his leadership quality and body language this season was poor. He is a perennial loser.

So it sounds like you’re not a fan ?

  On 25/08/2019 at 09:19, Superunknown said:

So it sounds like you’re not a fan ?

Love the guy, as I said, thanks for your service, but time to move on.

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:21, Redleg said:

With Lewis gone, we have how many players over 30?

Oh that's right, only one. He of course won 3 B & F's in a row and stayed loyal while we were sh-t. He is not in our worst 8 players and therefore on a number of grounds deserves another year. Would hurt the club massively through the AFL if we dumped him this year.Would speak volumes of our culture.

Hardly soft I would have thought.

PS. Don't bring up Hodge, Lewis and Roughhead, as the Hawks have half their list over 30.

What is our culture? Is he not in part responsible for the fact we don’t have any? 

Edited August 25, 20195 yr by Bombay Airconditioning

Nobody panic, the club just posted some feel good crap on FB.

A season to own, learn from + respond to.

We’re in this together.

#Myheartbeatstrue

Well that explains everything....who’s ground?

  On 25/08/2019 at 01:04, dazzledavey36 said:

With the VFL side now out of the finals race I wonder when they will announce first official delisting.

First thing Monday?

So they should.... stand by for Armageddon type Carnage Dazzle!!

Need to go

Oscar

Spargo

Both Wagners

Stretch

ANB

AVB

Keilty

That will do for starters!!

  On 25/08/2019 at 02:46, demon3165 said:

Delist ANB, JKH, Stretch, Garlett, Keilty and Jones.

Trade Salem, Viney

 

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Jones will and deserves another year.  

People calling for his head are a disgrace!

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:02, Sorry kids said:

need to move some of the momentum killers

 Maynard and Lewis are gone with Smith likely also

Spargo,  Kielty

Trade if can Jones, Stretch, ANB  OMac

No point having momentum & then having our senior players continue turning the ball over.......or maybe you'd prefer that.

Yesterday a classic example.....I'm with 'sir why you little'.....good post!

  On 25/08/2019 at 10:11, Demons11 said:

Jones will and deserves another year.  

People calling for his head are a disgrace!

I'd be the last one calling for his head but his time is up. He isn't going to get better. The MFC needs to get better, 2019 was a write-off. Players like Jones are NOT the future. Tough times call for tough calls. These are those times....Why pick on the obvious failures this year when the most blatant failure is staring at us and people on this site want to bring up loyalty. I use the term, most blatant failure, because of his lack of leadership. He comes across as someone playing for himself. The fact he ran past Oliver when he was giving Fritsch a spray and said nothing betrays a lack of captain's care. Thank you Mister Jones, I respect your contribution and thank you from the bottom of my heart. Let's now move on.

  On 25/08/2019 at 10:13, Laughing Goat said:

No point having momentum & then having our senior players continue turning the ball over.......or maybe you'd prefer that.

Yesterday a classic example.....I'm with 'sir why you little'.....good post!

Welcome to try again, preferably in a format that makes sense.

ha ha yeah maybe you would understand if you take the time to watch the game  again yesterday.....also, hate to tell you this but ANB signed for 2 more years.

  On 25/08/2019 at 10:32, Laughing Goat said:

ha ha yeah maybe you would understand if you take the time to watch the game  again yesterday.....also, hate to tell you this but ANB signed for 2 more years.

This ANB signing/not signing is becoming the new did/didn’t we review the prelim. 

A lot of confusion on here LG regarding ANB, can you elaborate please? When did he sign up? As far as some are concerned nothing official has come out of the club.

I'm not about to throw anyone under the bus, needless to say that its a done deal.....2 years!

I believe the club has been waiting for the appropriate moment to release the news, however, with 8 losses in a row I am thinking that the right time may be in the next week or 2......

I hope they give ANB an opportunity to play in the mid field next year.......he's a natural ball winner & ball hunter & given the chance, a lot of opinions, especially on this site, may change.

 

  On 25/08/2019 at 10:11, Demons11 said:

Jones will and deserves another year.  

People calling for his head are a disgrace!

The truth is, if the kids had improved and we didn't have so many injuries, in a perfect world he would have been or was about to be pushed out of the side.  I love him, but he isn't the player he was.  

Having said that, going by the year we had, keeping him on for another year isn't the worst option.  I'd take the captaincy off him and give it to someone like Gawn, though.  It's time he stood aside in that regard.

  On 25/08/2019 at 04:09, The Great Pretender said:

Delist ANB, JKH, Stretch, Garlett, Keilty and Jones.

Trade Salem, Viney

Salam is as soft as butter, does not like the hard contest and looks for an easier option even before he gets the ball, Viney is a one trick pony lacks skill and football nouse time to clean out.

  On 25/08/2019 at 11:31, demon3165 said:

Salam is as soft as butter

Salem soft?

Pull the other one.

  On 25/08/2019 at 11:24, Laughing Goat said:

I'm not about to throw anyone under the bus, needless to say that its a done deal.....2 years!

I believe the club has been waiting for the appropriate moment to release the news, however, with 8 losses in a row I am thinking that the right time may be in the next week or 2......

I hope they give ANB an opportunity to play in the mid field next year.......he's a natural ball winner & ball hunter & given the chance, a lot of opinions, especially on this site, may change.

 

No problem LG, wasn’t after specifics, just thought some were confused when the story broke out a couple of months ago about him being close to extending rather than actually signing. Appreciate the response.