Round 23 Non MFC Games

[Earl Hood 6,082]

1 minute ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Ryan and Rioli, both so exciting to watch, both electric and skilful. We don’t need one small crumbing forward, we need two. 

Yes I am at Optus watching this and my thoughts exactly if only we had those skills in our forward line! The Eagles ball movement in the last 10 minutes is extraordinary! Hard to defend against that although the Hawks are playing well.free kick to Darling was laughable

[Clintosaurus 7,838]

Well done Jeremy Cameron. EAD Ben Brown.

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

2 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Well done Jeremy Cameron. EAD Ben Brown.

Looks like Jeremy Cameron now owes Sam frost a beer 

[KLV 1,765]

I’m glad J Cameron wins the Coleman. Ben brown was well beaten today 

[dees189227 12,373]

Usually it wouldn't bother me if the hawks in but come on west coast. We want collingwood out of the top 4. So Wc gave to win as does richmond or they could draw with brisbane meaning they finished on top and the tigs still get top 4. 

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

Gold Coast clearly making their case for a priority pick 

[SaberFang 7,151]

Just watch Hawthorn win this and lock Collingwood into the top 4, rather than forcing them into an elimination final. FFS!

The Bulldogs aren't losing tomorrow, look at the bigger picture here. ?

Edited August 24, 2019 by SaberFang

[dees189227 12,373]

18 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Just watch Hawthorn win this and lock Collingwood into the top 4, rather than forcing them into an elimination final. FFS!

The Bulldogs aren't losing tomorrow, look at the bigger picture here. ?

I know. It's bad enough essenscum are in there but now the pies have been gifted a double chance. 

You have to hand it to Clarko. He is  a genius. 

I know I have gone on about it, but if freo held onto win last week then that stupid black/red team would be out.

West Coast have shot themselves in the foot. Win tonight they would have had a double chance. They have fumbled, dropped easy marks, spoiled each other and just kicked badly. 

This finals series is going to be hard to watch. There aren't many teams in there that I want to win the grand final. 

 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Just a big Boooooooooooooo to this season. Hopefully Dogs win tomorrow and the Bummers can go play an elimination final in Perth or one here against Toiges. There really isn’t much joy left. 

[SaberFang 7,151]

Hate almost every team in the top 8, this is just a disaster right now. The only thing that would make me feel better is Essendon having to go to Perth for their first final and getting blown away by 100+ points.

Collingwood getting a double chance after playing like [censored] for half the season is about as frustrating as it gets. The Hawks could make finals with 11 wins! ELEVEN!

[Sir Why You Little 36,976]

1 minute ago, SaberFang said:

Hate almost every team in the top 8, this is just a disaster right now. The only thing that would make me feel better is Essendon having to go to Perth for their first final and getting blown away by 100+ points.

Collingwood getting a double chance after playing like [censored] for half the season is about as frustrating as it gets. The Hawks could make finals with 11 wins! ELEVEN!

Yep. 11 wins gets a finals berth and we win 5 games for the season

Pathetic

 

[dees189227 12,373]

I think the only teams in the 8 that I would want to see win the GF is brisbane, west coast and the dogs if they make it. If its hawthorn then I wouldn't mind them winning. 

This is going to be a long 5 weeks. 

 

[Pennant St Dee 13,118]

Another master class by Clarko tonight nullified the Eagles at home shutting down their rebound on turnovers 

by forcing them to not be able to control tempo, controlling the ball, bringing good intensity and tackling pressure.

Worpoel doing a job on Yeo

and all forward 50 entries either
a)over Mcgovern's head to Mcevoy/OBrien bringing it to ground and forcing Barrass and Hurn to be accountable 
b)low and quick to space to take McGovern out of the game 
c)All forwards only marking when free in space or being hit up lace out in front.

d) Continually spoiling inside 50 entries instead of trying to take a contested grab(except as c) above) and either winning the ground ball or applying pressure to lock it in or force a hurried clearing kick

All of the above also prevents quick rebound from defence and Hawks were setting up defensive press from halfback to the wings

Simpson and brains trust will know all teams will employ these tactics and will spend 2 weeks working on it, but tonight's loss may leave no room for error 

[Demonsone 2,035]

Can see the Hawks challenging well before the mfc.. unbelievable how they haven’t bottomed out & bring in new players & continue the culture vs the pathetic culture we have 

[Earl Hood 6,082]

41 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Can see the Hawks challenging well before the mfc.. unbelievable how they haven’t bottomed out & bring in new players & continue the culture vs the pathetic culture we have 

Yep watching live tonight the Hawks took them to the cleaners and this loss has most likely cost the Weagles another flag. The Hawks are so well drilled, and have skills and they have a system that works. They always show up to play to the game plan and tactically they play smart to negate their opponents strengths. 

Next year they get Mitchell back, Wingard, Scully will be better, they might pull Cogniglio as well. They have picked the eyes out of the free agent system and the disgruntled or chronically injured A graders from other clubs. As well they keep developing second round picks into likely future champions, Worpel, Sicily, Mitch Lewis, etc. Yes the Hawks will give it a shack next year, us well who knows! 

[John Demonic 5,749]

1 hour ago, SaberFang said:

Hate almost every team in the top 8, this is just a disaster right now. The only thing that would make me feel better is Essendon having to go to Perth for their first final and getting blown away by 100+ points.

Collingwood getting a double chance after playing like [censored] for half the season is about as frustrating as it gets. The Hawks could make finals with 11 wins! ELEVEN!

The Hawks could even get a double up game against the Eagles. The Eagles would be spooked with that matchup now, which would be amazing, given they'd be confident against every other club at home.

Edited August 24, 2019 by John Demonic

[TheoX 1,222]

Ben king looking the goods. Meanwhile we're stuck with a couple of blokes that can't get on the park.

Edited August 24, 2019 by TheoX

[sue 9,096]

8 hours ago, John Demonic said:

The Hawks could even get a double up game against the Eagles. The Eagles would be spooked with that matchup now, which would be amazing, given they'd be confident against every other club at home.

I dimly recall in August 2018 another team beat WCE at home and then made it to the prelim against them and got thrashed by WCE.  Let's see how it plays out.

[jumbo returns 6,738]

They can all go and get stuffed

I couldn't give a [censored]

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

9 hours ago, Demonsone said:

Can see the Hawks challenging well before the mfc.. unbelievable how they haven’t bottomed out & bring in new players & continue the culture vs the pathetic culture we have 

That’s what happens when you have the best coach over the last 50 years or so.

[John Demonic 5,749]

1 hour ago, sue said:

I dimly recall in August 2018 another team beat WCE at home and then made it to the prelim against them and got thrashed by WCE.  Let's see how it plays out.

I'd back WCE to win in a do-or-die final the 2nd time around, but there would have to be some psychological factor with an immediate follow up game that would sew some doubt. As for the psy-factor last year, well they would've been confident knowing Kennedy and Darling would actually be on the field in the prelim and playing for a GF or top 4 is different to having two games to lock in top 2 with just 1 win needed and 5win Brisbane to come the following week.

 

Edited August 25, 2019 by John Demonic

[dees189227 12,373]

So we need the dogs to win today. Push the bummers down to 8th and hopefully they have to go to perth and get flogged. 

I know the cats will still get a home final but it would be nice o see brisbane finish on top. 

[Redleg 40,836]

13 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Another master class by Clarko tonight nullified the Eagles at home shutting down their rebound on turnovers 

by forcing them to not be able to control tempo, controlling the ball, bringing good intensity and tackling pressure.

Worpoel doing a job on Yeo

and all forward 50 entries either
a)over Mcgovern's head to Mcevoy/OBrien bringing it to ground and forcing Barrass and Hurn to be accountable 
b)low and quick to space to take McGovern out of the game 
c)All forwards only marking when free in space or being hit up lace out in front.

d) Continually spoiling inside 50 entries instead of trying to take a contested grab(except as c) above) and either winning the ground ball or applying pressure to lock it in or force a hurried clearing kick

All of the above also prevents quick rebound from defence and Hawks were setting up defensive press from halfback to the wings

Simpson and brains trust will know all teams will employ these tactics and will spend 2 weeks working on it, but tonight's loss may leave no room for error 

Funny then, that a sh-t club like ours, as the media and footy world see us, with a crap coach, selfish players, who are poorly skilled, should have beaten the Eagles twice this year, but for massive injuries, poor umpiring and shocking kicking for goal.

No credit given to us for those and many other close losses this year.

It's time to adopt the John Northey mantra of "it's us against the rest of them" and come out fighting next year.

We need a hard edge on the ground from our team and in the public forum from our FD. 

Get fit, learn how to tackle, work on our skills, make the game plan simpler, bring in some new talent and pace, get rid of those that aren't good enough and reward those that play hard team footy.

Do that and we are back as a competitor and a relevant team.

[Diamond_Jim 12,539]

so if Bulldogs win both Adelaide teams and Hawks miss.

If Bulldogs lose Hawthorn replace the Bulldogs unless one of the Adelaide teams has a BIG percentage boost in which case they go in.

Also if Bulldogs lose Essendon ends up seventh whereas if Bulldogs win Essendon end up eighth.

Am I correct?

Very appropriate that Bulldogs are playing on Mars Stadium

Interesting that it's 12 games gets you in the eight... so not much different to most years where it's 13 guarantees a spot.

Edited August 25, 2019 by Diamond_Jim

[SaberFang 7,151]

There's a lot of permutations yet to play out. If Brisbane [censored] Richmond, they would end up 5th which means an MCG elimination final with whoever finishes 8th (Essendon or Hawks, depending on the Bulldogs result).

Really want the Drug Cheats to end up facing the Eagles in Perth, but 2 results need to go our way (Richmond and Bulldogs both need to win).

Port v Fremantle is basically a dead rubber because Port won't make up the percentage required to overtake Hawthorn (assuming Adelaide win).