On 21/08/2019 at 11:01, Sir Why You Little said:

Speaks Volumes of our 2 Captains. They should just walk now. 

Nobody took any notice of what Max said at the B&F

”You cannot win the Flag in the off Season, but you can certainly lose it...”

Of Course we plummeted 

Big Max placed the writing of the wall this season very early - he'd obviously stewed over it time and again before his statement.

  On 22/08/2019 at 03:54, Kiss of Death said:

Wondering if random supporters can join the pre-season camp, and bust their guts showing the lads how to give everything you’ve got..

You volunteering, KoD?  Would at least add spice to the pre-season training reports!  I can see the headline now:  "Kiss of Death needs the Kiss of Life after his first 50 metre sprint waddle."

In a way I like hearing this, as it explains a bit of drop off in our form, along with the injuries etc.

We all make mistakes, the key is how the players respond. It's up to them, the coaches can only give them the tools, they need to execute on that.

Could be the best learning curve guys like Brayshaw, Oliver and Petracca ever get.

Lewis whacks the coaches?

“You don’t know what you don’t know, and you just think after a successful year it’s just going to happen again.

“I think everyone’s found out from a tactical coaching point of view, from an athlete point of view, that that’s just not the case.”

The harsh lessons from 2019: Lewis

  On 22/08/2019 at 05:42, Lord Nev said:

Lewis whacks the coaches?

“You don’t know what you don’t know, and you just think after a successful year it’s just going to happen again.

“I think everyone’s found out from a tactical coaching point of view, from an athlete point of view, that that’s just not the case.”

The harsh lessons from 2019: Lewis

It beggars belief that the whole football department took their eye off the ball and just thought the good times would simply roll around again.

For those that thought:  "It is the pre-season stupid".  We now know from a number of sources that it wasn't.  The primary issue was the Off-Season! 

To me the article talks to the lack of experience of our leaders, coaches and managers.  I've talked many times on DL of their respective lack of experience in their given roles.

Lewis' comments  just reinforce for me that Goodwin needs a coaching mentor/director to help him avoid such rookie errors.  Like Lewis said 'you don't know, what you don't know'.  That is what a coach mentor/director is for.

Edited August 22, 20195 yr by Lucifer's Hero

  On 22/08/2019 at 05:42, Lord Nev said:

Lewis whacks the coaches?

“You don’t know what you don’t know, and you just think after a successful year it’s just going to happen again.

“I think everyone’s found out from a tactical coaching point of view, from an athlete point of view, that that’s just not the case.”

The harsh lessons from 2019: Lewis

And rightly so.. Maybe if they reviewed the Prelim  in a lot more  details...

  On 22/08/2019 at 05:42, Lord Nev said:

Lewis whacks the coaches?

“You don’t know what you don’t know, and you just think after a successful year it’s just going to happen again.

“I think everyone’s found out from a tactical coaching point of view, from an athlete point of view, that that’s just not the case.”

The harsh lessons from 2019: Lewis

Easy to read too much into comments quoted from on air interviews but this line caught my eye:

“The boys who are around next year and come back to pre-season, I’ve got no doubt their attitude … compared to last pre-season, will be completely different,” Lewis said.

Could be serious cull about to happen

  On 22/08/2019 at 06:01, binman said:

Easy to read too much into comments quoted from on air interviews but this line caught my eye:

“The boys who are around next year and come back to pre-season, I’ve got no doubt their attitude … compared to last pre-season, will be completely different,” Lewis said.

Could be serious cull about to happen

This line from that article seems to imply many won't be back:

You’ve got to make some really harsh decisions......

 

I think Lewis should be here to see it....one way or another.

  On 21/08/2019 at 23:14, sue said:

Once again this is something relevant to us long suffering supporters, but of only minor relevance to current players.  I can imagine an excited player being interviewed after the GF siren and being asked how does it feel to break the drought.  Response, "oh, yeah, that too".

Missing the point Sue. The players who do it will become heroes to the Club and fondly looked upon for life.  Your thoughts also do not tie in with how the Swans and Bulldogs players felt when they broke long standing droughts. Many said the best thing about the win was seeing the look on old time supporters faces.

  On 22/08/2019 at 06:34, Sorry kids said:

Missing the point Sue. The players who do it will become heroes to the Club and fondly looked upon for life.  Your thoughts also do not tie in with how the Swans and Bulldogs players felt when they broke long standing droughts. Many said the best thing about the win was seeing the look on old time supporters faces.

But I do see the point. Sorry, I don't put much weight in your examples.   

  On 22/08/2019 at 06:52, sue said:

But I do see the point. Sorry, I don't put much weight in your examples.   

Each to their own. 

  On 22/08/2019 at 01:17, rjay said:

Heard the same from someone close to the club...

It’s staggering that the players would come back in that condition and have that attitude, especially in 2018-19. IMO, the coaches and staff are just as much to blame. It’s unacceptable. 

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  On 21/08/2019 at 10:46, Lord Nev said:

“Players may not have come back with the right attitude and the sense that finals was just going to roll around again."

“They’ve been dealt a harsh lesson this year and I wouldn’t be surprised if the attitude was changed coming back to the pre-season.”

Lewis questions Demons attitude in year from hell

Some truth starting to leak out of the MFC now...

Leak?, what he was hiding behind a bush and went ppssssttt to a journalist

From Day 1 he has been very vocal exactly why Goody got him

Lot of trouser expanding in the thread here

He is free to say what he likes now, good on him for firing both barrels, if it pisses off the playing group , good

Attitude and confidence is a part of the whole package, a team lacking form, consistency and cohesion will sonn fail

  On 22/08/2019 at 07:34, Satyriconhome said:

Leak?, what he was hiding behind a bush and went ppssssttt to a journalist

From Day 1 he has been very vocal exactly why Goody got him

Lot of trouser expanding in the thread here

He is free to say what he likes now, good on him for firing both barrels, if it pisses off the playing group , good

Attitude and confidence is a part of the whole package, a team lacking form, consistency and cohesion will sonn fail

Remember watching a player video ANB did on the Qld camp. Even allowing for the fact it was young guys having some fun outside of training time I just got the impression they were all on pretty good terms with themselves.

I’m going to look at the upside because what the hell.

Surely this will serve as a huge lesson for the players to be diligent and professional in how they conduct and prepare themselves in the off season.

Surely the extent of the embarrassment they have brought upon themselves and the club will make them want to avoid it next year at all costs.

Surely this would be the ultimate motivation for a professional athlete.

Surely.

SURELY.

  On 21/08/2019 at 17:51, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Amusing. Lewis is one of the prime suspects when it comes to letting the club down i would have thought. 

Thankfully someone says it as it is

  On 22/08/2019 at 08:37, Old Bear said:

Thankfully someone says it as it is

How so?

  On 22/08/2019 at 08:32, P-man said:

I’m going to look at the upside because what the hell.

Surely this will serve as a huge lesson for the players to be diligent and professional in how they conduct and prepare themselves in the off season.

Surely the extent of the embarrassment they have brought upon themselves and the club will make them want to avoid it next year at all costs.

Surely this would be the ultimate motivation for a professional athlete.

Surely.

SURELY.

Surely the same thing was said after Round 23 2017

Surely....

  On 21/08/2019 at 10:51, Demonsone said:

Ffs our culture is still poor with poor leadership!

Disappointing if true because goody as a serious finals player should know how hard it is to get there and should have been ahead of the curve in pre season.

Is he dumb or just so inexperienced its scary.? ??

  On 22/08/2019 at 07:34, Satyriconhome said:

Leak?, what he was hiding behind a bush and went ppssssttt to a journalist

From Day 1 he has been very vocal exactly why Goody got him

Lot of trouser expanding in the thread here

He is free to say what he likes now, good on him for firing both barrels, if it pisses off the playing group , good

Attitude and confidence is a part of the whole package, a team lacking form, consistency and cohesion will sonn fail

Hey mate, not sure what any of that has to do with the point to be honest?

The events Lewis is describing happened almost a year ago, so seems fair to say it's 'leaking' out now.

All I've seen from you about preseason is that it all went great and it was totally uninterrupted. Doesn't seem like Lewis shares your view.

  On 22/08/2019 at 07:34, Satyriconhome said:

Leak?, what he was hiding behind a bush and went ppssssttt to a journalist

From Day 1 he has been very vocal exactly why Goody got him

Lot of trouser expanding in the thread here

He is free to say what he likes now, good on him for firing both barrels, if it pisses off the playing group , good

Attitude and confidence is a part of the whole package, a team lacking form, consistency and cohesion will sonn fail

The only trouser expanding appears to have been within the playing and coaching group at one MFC...

A team that (some said all was fine, what are you talking about idiot during the preseason....) that turns up under prepared and arrogant (players and coaches) will generally fail. You might not see it but last on the ladder (Suns don’t count) shows it. There is nothing that can justify this debacle of a season. 

  On 22/08/2019 at 09:52, Sir Why You Little said:

Surely the same thing was said after Round 23 2017

Surely....

And the 2018 Prelim!??  Oh hang on ...

 

We recruit Lewis for his leadership.

A leader takes the group with him.

Either Lewis’s leadership is overrated or the group can’t follow.