On 9/23/2019 at 12:23 PM, Dee Watcher said:

Just what we need another guy who doesn't really have a position he is elite at but just "good" at a few different roles.

We have "good" players problem is we need a few very good & elite players! 

 

Gr8 post.

 

Roos and a few others are concerned that another one paced player comes in.

 

 

This surely means Preuss gone.

 

On 10/4/2019 at 12:43 PM, TGR said:

This surely means Preuss gone.

More garbage

On 10/2/2019 at 10:34 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Where’s his best position. I have seen him play CHF and was ok.  But his finals were terrible.  He missed targets. He played reserve ruck and looked slow. Maybe was out of position.  Definitely not a wingman as some on D-land have suggested. 

His strengths seem to be elite athletic endurance, understanding of required field position/structure, and his height. 

This absolutely makes him a modern defensive wingman, who gut runs all day to always be defensive side of the opposition, preventing them getting "out the back" or getting the overlap,  and quickly plugging the hole when they switch the play. This is an intelligent role, because you need to know even to hang back or when to push forward. 

His height is an advantage for the bail out kick. He will also push forward to link or threaten when we have the ball. This isn't a high possession or obvious impact role, but it is structurally critical.

ANB has been our most successful in this role. JKH has played it when in the side. I think this is what we've tried to use Jones as when he has played on the wing. 

 

It isn't an attacking wing role, using pace and/or great kicking to set up attacks. We definitely lack this role, and it is probably what we use our high half forwards for. Harmes plays this role a lot. Elliot and Langdon both would as well. 

 

On 8/5/2019 at 8:30 PM, trout said:

Looks like the club isn’t so keen on Frostball in 2020. Interesting times ahead.

wow called it.

Anyone know where Tomlinson finished in their B&F the other night? I saw he wasn’t placed in the Top 10. Curious more than anything.

10 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Anyone know where Tomlinson finished in their B&F the other night? I saw he wasn’t placed in the Top 10. Curious more than anything.

Not Top 10 in a year where GWS were riddled with injuries and where he only missed 1 game? Oh boy do I have faith in Josh Mahoney and our recruiting team. FMD.

Edited October 5, 20196 yr by Kelpien

16 minutes ago, Kelpien said:

Not Top 10 in a year where GWS were riddled with injuries and where he only missed 1 game? Oh boy do I have faith in Josh Mahoney and our recruiting team. FMD.

Not sure how their voting system works Kelpien, but the Top 10 has some real useful names in it and it was closely contested by the look of it. He might not be the ‘exciting’ name most are craving and personally I don’t mind the addition of a mature body. 

Why in other posts and in this, why are people saying “ Langdon and Tomlinson address outside run “.  

Langdon. Absolutely.  Pace. Run. Good 75/25 disposal efficiency. 

Tomlinson.  Big. 6”4’. Slow. Played reserve ruck in Giants finals.  More suited to Chf/CHB.  He is no wingman.  No outside runner.  

We will likely get Tomlinson in on a 4-yr $500k a year deal.  But he doesn’t address outside run. Maybe plugs the hole left in key defence by the pushout on Frost. 

4 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Why in other posts and in this, why are people saying “ Langdon and Tomlinson address outside run “.  

Langdon. Absolutely.  Pace. Run. Good 75/25 disposal efficiency. 

Tomlinson.  Big. 6”4’. Slow. Played reserve ruck in Giants finals.  More suited to Chf/CHB.  He is no wingman.  No outside runner.  

We will likely get Tomlinson in on a 4-yr $500k a year deal.  But he doesn’t address outside run. Maybe plugs the hole left in key defence by the pushout on Frost. 

Tomlinson was a wingman before the Giants brought in Kelly and Whitfield.

They then beefed him up to play more ruck time.

I think we will be looking to take a few kilos off his frame to allow him to use his run more.

Sam Murray is being looked at to address our outside run. I’m not sure what role we’re looking at for Tomlinson but highly doubt it’s the wing. 

Edited October 6, 20196 yr by Ethan Tremblay

44 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Sam Murray is being looked at to address our outside run. I’m not sure what role we’re looking at for Tomlinson but highly doubt it’s the wing. 

Backline to replace Frost.

Very much into Murray as you've mentioned too.

Peter Ryan- tweet 5 min ago....

"Have confirmed that Melbourne will lodge paperwork to sign Giants' unrestricted free agent Adam Tomlinson early this week @agerealfooty https://t.co/AsdUEGdCyz

 

On 10/6/2019 at 9:31 AM, Kelpien said:

Not Top 10 in a year where GWS were riddled with injuries and where he only missed 1 game? Oh boy do I have faith in Josh Mahoney and our recruiting team. FMD.

GWS had 21 players play 18+ games so they weren't that riddled.  their top 10 are arguably the best quality in the comp so no disgrace there.  Tomlinson will be a good player but no star.

points-wise he is rated 11-12th for the season so i imagine he was around there for the BnF

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Sam Murray is being looked at to address our outside run. I’m not sure what role we’re looking at for Tomlinson but highly doubt it’s the wing. 

Mahoney said in a interview he is being brought in to play wing, which imo is his best position 

1 hour ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

Tomlinson was a wingman before the Giants brought in Kelly and Whitfield.

They then beefed him up to play more ruck time.

I think we will be looking to take a few kilos off his frame to allow him to use his run more.

Tomlinson was a key forward at under 18s with elite endurance  

194cms 96 kg 

No one should say he is being brought in for outside run.  He’s a key position player.  

37 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Tomlinson was a key forward at under 18s with elite endurance  

194cms 96 kg 

No one should say he is being brought in for outside run.  He’s a key position player.  

I'd say he is being brought in to play as a  Westhoff/Lynch(Adel) type link man the key-wing hybrid use his endurance to roll back in support and then use his size to provide us an option on the wing and push hard forward.  Doesn't bring outside run and carry leg speed but brings outlet options that makes us faster.

Just now, ArtificialWisdom said:

I'd say he is being brought in to play as a  Westhoff/Lynch(Adel) type link man the key-wing hybrid use his endurance to roll back in support and then use his size to provide us an option on the wing and push hard forward.  Doesn't bring outside run and carry leg speed but brings outlet options that makes us faster.

Agree, you are always faster when you have a target to kick to.

1 hour ago, GCDee said:

Mahoney said in a interview he is being brought in to play wing, which imo is his best position 

Isaac Smith?

Mitch Cleary saying on Trade Radio that the Tomlinson paperwork should be finalised today.

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Why in other posts and in this, why are people saying “ Langdon and Tomlinson address outside run “.  

Langdon. Absolutely.  Pace. Run. Good 75/25 disposal efficiency. 

Tomlinson.  Big. 6”4’. Slow. Played reserve ruck in Giants finals.  More suited to Chf/CHB.  He is no wingman.  No outside runner.  

We will likely get Tomlinson in on a 4-yr $500k a year deal.  But he doesn’t address outside run. Maybe plugs the hole left in key defence by the pushout on Frost. 

 

18 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Isaac Smith?

Tomlinson

11 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

 

I’ve seen this footage. He runs off a lazy forward.  He’s not a wingman. Watch the finals where he comes on off the bench as a relief ruck.  He’s brought in to play key position and definitely not wing.   

12 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Tomlinson

No i'm asking the question CBD.  The outside run solution.  Assuming Smith can produce late in his career for a few more years, who do you think might bring us closer to a GF appearance with outside run and carry, specifically talking a wing position not a utility option as is being mooted by many here but not Mahoney. 

10 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I’ve seen this footage. He runs off a lazy forward.  He’s not a wingman. Watch the finals where he comes on off the bench as a relief ruck.  He’s brought in to play key position and definitely not wing.   

Sure. I'll trust his outside ability from the footage. You can believe whatever you made up.