1 minute ago, chook fowler said:

Listening to Goodwins press conference tells me the guy’s in lala  land. Trying to sell our form as improving. Hiding behind a few goals in the last quarter when the game was done.FMD.

I’d thoroughly recommend nobody listen to coach press conferences after a bad loss. There is literally no right thing the coach will say. Or at least, you’ll never hear whatever it is you think you want to hear.

Goodwin is still saying he sees improvement 

How can he say this...?

i feel for the guy, he is delusional

i need to hear from Bartlett. 

Not one word after 10 rounds. Our Season is over...

5 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Spargo and the Wagner’s are disgraceful footballers. Spargo offers absolutely nothing. He leads up as a forward and cannot take marks because he is 4 foot. He isn’t quick and can’t crumb and he hates tackling. I would be happy to never see him play for the club again.

 

as for the Wagners... the less said the better. Slow. Slow thinkers. Poorly skilled. I’ll leave it at that

Spot on don’t blame them blame the recruiters. Blind Freddy could spot their deficiencies.

15 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

This is not about one loss but a litany of mistakes that will consign us to more years of misery. Who is accountable for;

1. Recruiting and trading the farm on Lever when everyone knew he had acl problem. An out and out disaster;

2. Recruiting May when the whole industry know he has discipline issues;

3. Recruiting Pruess so we can play him in the reserves every week;

4. Extending Goodwin contract for effectively 4 years after his Essendon involvement and with little demonstrated experience

5. Recruiting Kolodjashnij with known concussion;

6. Continuing to play Garlett when he wouldn’t even get a game in Hawthorn reserves

7 Recruiting players with names such as Sparrow; Jordon; Nietshke; Spargo; Petty; Baker; McKenna; Johnstone. Yet Geelong perennial winners pick Tim Kelly with 24. There more than luck about it.

8. How can we be the only club with sub standard facilities and split administration yet GC and GWS have state of the art.

i really had some hope after Roos/Jackson but it was a fraud. The place is a house of cards. You can take losing but you need some hope and joy. Even when we were seriously bad we had Flower; Jako; Farmer; Jurrah. Now it just sterile boring football. One goal for a half is unwatchable.

We recruit too many bog ordinary footballers, with a few exceptions, while happily taking other clubs NQRs.  All thiz while missing way too many good ones.

No wonder the Casey cupboard is bare.  Nothing's changed on that front in 50 years plus.

Edited May 26, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Goodwin is still saying he sees improvement 

How can he say this...?

i feel for the guy, he is delusional

i need to hear from Bartlett. 

Not one word after 10 rounds. Our Season is over...

Cripes, here we go. Why on Earth do you want to hear from Bartlett?

If only we’d selected Preuss. ?

Can someone please explain the role of Spargo today? I was there and for the life of me I couldn’t work it out. Hasn’t played for nearly a month and yet gets the late call up to replace our best player for the year possibly. 

When you bring players in the team you hope they at least have some impact. C Wagner and Spargo brought nothing, they weren’t alone though. 

Max led our possessions, we need to clone him.

For at least three consecutive centre bounces in the third our forward 6 were, Lockhart, Spargo, Garlett, Hunt, Stretch and Baker. Not sure if by design or due to T Mac moving back and Smith copping a knock again. Odd set up i thought at the time.

From ground level the Giants looked too explosive for us at stoppages and used the ball really well. Beaten by a much better team today.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Tell us what is really going on Goodwin...

What is he eexpected  to do or say? I can't recall such a weak list available. Thirteen out, then we learn that Salem was gone also. I predicted a ten goal loss. We've found a couple of players in Hore and Baker

 

 

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Cripes, here we go. Why on Earth do you want to hear from Bartlett?

He is the President of the organization that has had a shocking year. If you are not interested, cover your ears, i don’t care. 

I’d suggest what Goodwin tells the media during his press conference and what he tells the players post-game is two different things. We are basically playing a VFL team, the extra pressure on our players who are usually better would be enormous. 

Edited May 26, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

Just now, Farmer said:

What is he eexpected  to do or say? I can't recall such a weak list available. Thirteen out, then we learn that Salem was gone also. I predicted a ten goal loss. We've found a couple of players in Hore and Baker

 

 

Doesn’t explain effort for the first 3 Quarters. That is suspect far too often at this club

7 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

Good average player but seriously would not change the current disaster

I believe you missed the second half of my point. We got nothing back. Good clubs don't do that 

1 hour ago, P-man said:

We need the likes of Brayshaw and Petracca to be at a much higher level than they are. They are meant to be our blue chip stocks. Not our cheese and onion chip stocks.

 

Our midfield is Not as good as what people were Hoping/Projecting for,   last year.

 

Oli and Brayshaw both spray their possessions.... 

And Tracca is in traction,  half the time.

Jonesy is cooked and needs to be a 2nd fiddle mid.

AnB is severely limited,  as is Stretch.

 

Gawn is great when he's hitting his targets...  apart from Not taking enough Marks for a dominant big-man.

Harmes is the real deal and improving still.   And would be my early candidate fror a future captain of this club.

.............

If Whitfeld were to wear RednBlue that could release Salem into the midfield.?

 

We need to hit the Draft. Quick.

2 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’d suggest what Goodwin tells the media during his press conference and what he tells the players post-game is two different things. 

You are obviously correct, ET.

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’d suggest what Goodwin tells the media during his press conference and what he tells the players post-game is two different things. We are basically playing a VFL team, the extra pressure on our players who are usually better would be enormous. 

Well it’s about time that changed. Home truths. 

Both our Captains are a joke

i remind you, our 2nd goal was kicked 17 minutes into the 3rd Quarter.....

8 minutes ago, Nasher said:

If only we’d selected Preuss. ?

Wouldn’t have made a difference, but please can you explain to me why we traded  for him when we refuse to play him? 

 

7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He is the President of the organization that has had a shocking year. If you are not interested, cover your ears, i don’t care. 

What does you actually want him to say???

Not being a smartass or anything just dont get why you want to hear from him?

Will you  be satisfied and assured if he came out and said something?

Max led virtually every statistic for us:  25 disposals, 13 contested poss, 8 marks, 6 clearances.  He played a better around the ground game than any of our on-ballers.  They should be embarrassed and that includes our two captains.  I hope Max gives them all a good talking to.  It is not acceptable to waste all that work around the ground by Max (and his 35 hitouts). 

Max is the lone ranger and there is a limit to how much he can do week in and week out with very little support.  He deserves better.

And before folks say it:Preuss would have made no difference; it was the ground level players that blew this.

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I remind you, our 2nd goal was kicked 17 minutes into the 3rd Quarter.....

Absolutely pathetic, I agree. Goodwin would no doubt tell the players the home truths. No point spinning them to the media, imagine the extra negative attention those leaches would bring onto the club when already down. 

10 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

We recruit too many bog ordinary footballers, with a few exceptions, while happily taking other clubs NQRs.  All thiz while missing way too many good ones.

No wonder the Casey cupboard is bare.  Nothing's changed on that front in 50 years plus.

 

10 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

We recruit too many bog ordinary footballers, with a few exceptions, while happily taking other clubs NQRs.  All thiz while missing way too many good ones.

No wonder the Casey cupboard is bare.  Nothing's changed on that front in 50 years plus.

Well, bugger it! It's boring to set this out but some of you need to read it. Add the  following to the team and what does it look like? Hibberd, Jetta, Salem, May, Lever, Hannan, , Vandenberg, Koladjasni , Joel Smith, 

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Well it’s about time that changed. Home truths. 

Both our Captains are a joke

i remind you, our 2nd goal was kicked 17 minutes into the 3rd Quarter.....

So you expect the coach to come out and back the players for all the world to see? C’mon SWYL. I know you’re frustrated, as well as I am but to suggest that is wrong. How did that serve Neeld? 

No doubt that he could be giving them a serve, but that’s behind closed doors. One good thing about Goodwin is that he’s measured and composed in front of the media. But don’t grill players to the media. As soon as you do that, the players will lose respect for him. And I don’t blame them.

2 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Wouldn’t have made a difference, but please can you explain to me why we traded  for him when we refuse to play him? 

 

So Gawn doesn’t have to play against him? 

3 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Wouldn’t have made a difference, but please can you explain to me why we traded  for him when we refuse to play him? 

 

Well I reckon he would have made a difference - we would have had a forward in the team for one!

Edited May 26, 20195 yr by Bitter but optimistic

Just now, Bitter but optimistic said:

Well I reckon he would have a difference - we would have had a forward in the team for one!

Unless he kicks 5 goals the result is still the same. 

But I still don’t know why we went out and recruited him when we don’t actually play him? Could have use that pick to get a decent crumber or some outside run instead and gone for another baby giraffe in the draft as ruck backup. 

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Well it’s about time that changed. Home truths. 

Both our Captains are a joke

i remind you, our 2nd goal was kicked 17 minutes into the 3rd Quarter.....

And I remind you that at some point between the team that made the prelim last year and the kooweerup 2nds plus Max Gawn, performance drops off. Has it dropped off more than it should have taking into account the players we have out? Well that's a question every demons fan (and coach and player) has to ask themselves, for sure.