On 12/05/2019 at 15:29, bing181 said:

But heh, happy for the professionals at the club to decide on whether or not he plays.

Injuries are deciding that he plays.

If May and Lever get their bodies right O Mac wont play another game.  He will be behind Petty soon as well.

  On 12/05/2019 at 15:29, bing181 said:

A finer example of confirmation bias it's hard to imagine.

- Oscar's one of the more reliable kicks in the team, as his DE% confirms (e.g. last week, 100%)

- He marks when the ball comes near him: last week was in top 10, this week down, but then so was everyone. He took as many marks as Viney and Gawn, who no-one seems to have noticed "barely mark the footy"

- Have a look at the 1%'ers. He's so far in front of everyone else in the team it's not funny.

Also worth remembering that for his one game back at Casey a couple of weeks back, he managed an in-the-bests performance with a team-high 22 disposals while Petty - who some here seem to see as a preferable alternative even though his one AFL game was a disaster - didn't even manage half of that.

Finally, for the last two games we've won not because we kicked thumping scores, but because our defense was miserly. It's not as if we have KPF's kicking buckets of goals on Oscar (or anyone for that matter).

But heh, happy for the professionals at the club to decide on whether or not he plays.

This is an excellent post!

IN: PREUSS, NEAL-BULLEN, BAKER

OUT: O'MAC, LEWIS, HIBBERD

  On 12/05/2019 at 07:17, John Demonic said:

I recall the thinking outside the square that came from Port when they beat em, was the "dirty ball" into the forward line, low balls to eliminate McGoverns influence. I wonder if we can emulate this?

I don't see why not JD.  What's good for the goose...

Key Eagles defender Jeremy McGovern sustained a cut above his eye against the Saints on Saturday night and could come under scrutiny from the Match Review Officer for an errant off-the-ball collision with St Kilda's Blake Acres.

 

 

In -  Baker,  Preuss, ANB

Out -  Hibberd (inj), Lewis, Keilty

 

Id rather move Keilty to the backline and drop O mac, but dont think the coaches will do that.

Regardless of injury or not, i would hope Goodwin has the sense to rest Lewis, Perth is a big trip for a veteran. 

So i though the game was utterly disgusting on Saturday night with a fantastic ending, but we were horrible, in so may areas. Billy Stretch offers the team spread.. and thats it.. nothing else, will be very lucky to keep his place.

I would like to give kudos to Frosty and Nathan Jones, i thought they were fantastic.  Gawn and Oliver Huge in the last qtr. and Hunt's game was a classic case of even if you are not hitting the scoreboard, you can have a great impact. So Changes this week, not the game to bring a first gamer into in Perth. Baker has another good game in the 2s then get him in. 

OUT: Hibberd. Lewis

IN: Pruess. ANB

I think we will lose 3 through injury and I feel we might be best to swap out Keilty.

In: Pruess, ANB, Corey Wagner, Sparrow.

Out: Lewis, Hibberd, Keilty, Melksham 

- Fritsch will need to stay as a backman for this week. Our back stocks are depleted, but we still have the 2 key talls, plus Hore and Wagner, Salem and Fritsch. At least we will add a little more leg speed. 

- Forwardline we will bring in Preuss and ANB.

- Forward/Mid- Wagner and Sparrow for a little rotation and depth. 

  On 12/05/2019 at 11:57, dazzledavey36 said:

Honestly if it was up to me then yes personally i would have Keilty or Petty back and Oscar to the 2s. Maybe Keilty is ahead because he is much more mature and can cope with the bigger bodies.

To me Oscar adds absolutely no value to our side, barely marks the footy, turns it over by foot, has no awareness, slow, dumb and just looks like a headless chook. I saw a bloke by the name of Sam Collins do much more this year then Oscar has his whole career.

 

In total agreement.  Omcd was horrible again.

Wish we had grabbed Collins after Freo delisted him.  He is exactly what we need.  Big.  Strong.  Confident mark. 

  On 12/05/2019 at 21:05, Petraccattack said:

Key Eagles defender Jeremy McGovern sustained a cut above his eye against the Saints on Saturday night and could come under scrutiny from the Match Review Officer for an errant off-the-ball collision with St Kilda's Blake Acres.

 

 

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Not much in that McGovern hit. Fine at worst.

  On 12/05/2019 at 21:19, Petraccattack said:

 

 

Id rather move Keilty to the backline and drop O mac, but dont think the coaches will do that.

Why?

I don't think we're in a luxury of dropping players given our injury crisis. So O Mac and Garlett will survive.

Incidentally O Mac could hardly move at the end of the game so is he injured as well?

Preuss for Keilty is a straight forward like for like.

Lewis surely can't play off a 6 day break in Perth. If they can absolutely assure that Melksham can't do further damage and is at least 70% fit, then you'd think he'll be ok to play.

IN - Preuss, ANB

Out - Hibberd, Lewis (both injured)

 

  On 12/05/2019 at 22:01, spirit of norm smith said:

In total agreement.  Omcd was horrible again.

Wish we had grabbed Collins after Freo delisted him.  He is exactly what we need.  Big.  Strong.  Confident mark. 

Who arguably cost them the game against the dees.

in a game where we scored 8 goals Collins direct opponent, who has been in woeful form, kicked 3.

And at the end Collins sagged off tmac gifting him a completely free mark. Which he dropped, yet Collins could still not stop him kicking the ball of the ground for the matching winning point. Great defence. Not.

Imagine if that were omac, posters would be all over him. 

Meanwhile omac blanketed his opponent.

But sure Collins is who we need.

Edited May 12, 20195 yr by binman

It sucks but I really think we need Tmac to play back this week... 

Otherwise Omac will need to line up on Darling or Kennedy *Shudders*

We will still need O-mac to stick around to "help out" with the resting ruckmen...

In: Pruess, Smith, ANB

Out: Hibberd, Lewis, Melksham 

 

Lets just hope someway some how our tall forwards can bring the ball to ground and, Garlett, Hunt & Tracc play the games of their lives.

  On 12/05/2019 at 21:44, SPC said:

I think we will lose 3 through injury and I feel we might be best to swap out Keilty.

In: Pruess, ANB, Corey Wagner, Sparrow.

Out: Lewis, Hibberd, Keilty, Melksham 

- Fritsch will need to stay as a backman for this week. Our back stocks are depleted, but we still have the 2 key talls, plus Hore and Wagner, Salem and Fritsch. At least we will add a little more leg speed. 

- Forwardline we will bring in Preuss and ANB.

- Forward/Mid- Wagner and Sparrow for a little rotation and depth. 

Tim Smith kicked four goals for Casey against Essendrug seconds. He should be considered.

  On 12/05/2019 at 23:26, Stormy Dee said:

Tim Smith kicked four goals for Casey against Essendrug seconds. He should be considered.

I agree, but think we need a 2nd ruckman and don't like the idea of TMAC, Preuss and another tall in Smith up forward. Going small has served us well so far. 

I really like Tim Smith, he does something that no other forward is doing at the moment, he can take a contested Mark. Lets be honest, he hasnt ever really had a good run at it.. I think he should play. So updated changes:

OUT: Lewis (rested /inj) Hibbered (inj) Keilty (out)

IN: Pruess, ANB, Smith.

  On 12/05/2019 at 01:19, rjay said:

Can Bull go back to take a role?

Similar size too Darling.

He has done some midfield time at Casey, so should have the tank to run with him.

Be better to have trialed it at Casey but we don't have many options.

Just a thought...

 

 

  On 12/05/2019 at 12:23, Pennant St Dee said:

Not a bad one, Casboult looked good down back yesterday 

 

  On 12/05/2019 at 23:32, SPC said:

I agree, but think we need a 2nd ruckman and don't like the idea of TMAC, Preuss and another tall in Smith up forward. Going small has served us well so far. 

Have floated the idea of playing Smith back...

Let's see if the FD have some imagination.

Apologies if I missed it, do we know why Spargo didn’t play for Casey?

  On 12/05/2019 at 23:01, binman said:

Who arguably cost them the game against the dees.

in a game where we scored 8 goals Collins direct opponent, who has been in woeful form, kicked 3.

And at the end Collins sagged off tmac gifting him a completely free mark. Which he dropped, yet Collins could still not stop him kicking the ball of the ground for the matching winning point. Great defence. Not.

Imagine if that were omac, posters would be all over him. 

Meanwhile omac blanketed his opponent.

But sure Collins is who we need.

I'm not much of a fan of Omac, but I have to agree that he's done his job the last few weeks. 

There is no way he'll be dropped until May and Lever are in and playing good footy and well supported by Jetta/Hibberd/Frost/Salem (or other structure).

Even then he could justify his position if his form is good freeing up other options. I'd think good form is more likely if the best back 6 group is on the park with a stable structure performing well - so I'm prepared for him to surprise on the upside

Picking single plays of the game where Omac didn't singlehandedly stop an attack OR using gross (and largely incorrect) generalisations to characterise his performance is unfair

  On 12/05/2019 at 23:49, Dee Zephyr said:

Apologies if I missed it, do we know why Spargo didn’t play for Casey?

He got overlooked!

  On 11/05/2019 at 10:50, Monocology said:

Griff Rhys Jones and Mel Smith very stiff....

Alas, they're playing under an alias.

Is it just me or does Brayshaw seem a little off/lazy this year? Just watched the highlights and recalling some other games

 

genuine question, not sh5t stirring and I have not referred to stats

If Lewis doesn't play (either because of injury or the travel factor), it means the following defenders will be unavailable: Lever, May, Hibberd, Jetta, Lewis - arguably all in our starting seven. That leaves Oscar, Frost, Hore, Salem, Wagner and Fritsch as players who we all accept as defenders (even though many of us would prefer Fritsch to be on the wing or further forward). We will therefore need one more defender. I imagine the match committee will need to decide if we need another tall defender, in which case I expect Petty to play or a more mobile backman, in which case we essentially have no-one so we will be looking at either moving Hunt backwards (undesirable given Hunt is in the process of learning the forward role), playing Jones there (tried before without success) or trialling someone else in the role, such as Brayshaw or one of the new kids.  

Edited May 13, 20195 yr by La Dee-vina Comedia

  On 12/05/2019 at 22:01, spirit of norm smith said:

In total agreement.  Omcd was horrible again.

Wish we had grabbed Collins after Freo delisted him.  He is exactly what we need.  Big.  Strong.  Confident mark. 

Yes I too am spewing we missed out on Collins. He is exactly the type of defender we need.

Collins also proves that there are players out there far and wide playing good footy at VFL SANFL level. Picking someone like him saves us giving up a first rounder for May also.

I am also not saving giving up 6 was a mistake (willing to give May time), but more so saying that there are big defenders out there that  are capable of stepping straight into our senior and playing an important role. Bit like Marty Hore who is already is our best intercept defender and someone who looks like he's played 100 games already.