The 2019 Draft and Trade Targets Thread

[Mickey 4,752]

Anderson and Rowell are apparently good mates. Wouldn't be surprise if the AFL give them 1 and 2 coz they think it will help keep them up there.

[deebug 1,754]

Why the hell should we even agree to this?

I will be so p$&##@! off if they get pp in the top ten at all, why should we keep taking this s*#^ from the AFL?

[Demon Disciple 12,315]

5 minutes ago, deebug said:

Why the hell should we even agree to this?

I will be so p$&##@! off if they get pp in the top ten at all, why should we keep taking this s*#^ from the AFL?

We shouldn't and we aren't, but they simply don't give a damn. The AFL puts even FIFA into the shade when it comes to corruption.

[Clintosaurus 7,913]

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

We shouldn't and we aren't, but they simply don't give a damn. The AFL puts even FIFA into the shade when it comes to corruption.

This is so true. Rules are made up as they go.

[deebug 1,754]

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

We shouldn't and we aren't, but they simply don't give a damn. The AFL puts even FIFA into the shade when it comes to corruption.

So true, just sick of the AFL how they keep getting away with c&@( such as this.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

1 hour ago, deebug said:

Why the hell should we even agree to this?

I will be so p$&##@! off if they get pp in the top ten at all, why should we keep taking this s*#^ from the AFL?

Were you demanding the same thing when we got picks 1 & 2 through PP system?

I too am not happy, but we seem to have very short memories

[Panamapapers 60]

19 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Were you demanding the same thing when we got picks 1 & 2 through PP system?

I too am not happy, but we seem to have very short memories

The club was responsible for shocking recruiting, I agree you cant claim GC for asking and they deserve it as much as we did. What's different is they couldnt waste those picks like we did for 10 years could they?

[Hunt29 295]

4 hours ago, Good Lord George said:

Anderson and Rowell are apparently good mates. Wouldn't be surprise if the AFL give them 1 and 2 coz they think it will help keep them up there.

The AFL wouldn’t admit that being a reason. But if it is then the current administration need to step down. 

[Moonshadow 17,678]

57 minutes ago, Panamapapers said:

The club was responsible for shocking recruiting, I agree you cant claim GC for asking and they deserve it as much as we did. What's different is they couldnt waste those picks like we did for 10 years could they?

All teams 'waste' picks in retrospect. No team can afford to.

At the moment, we are just as irrelevant as GCS. Difference is that they will be backed by the AFL into success (eventually).

[deebug 1,754]

When are the AFL going to tell us that gc are going to be given pp?

 

[Dirts 429]

3 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

We shouldn't and we aren't, but they simply don't give a damn. The AFL puts even FIFA into the shade when it comes to corruption.

So true. I grew up playing both AFL and ‘soccer’. 

I have since decided that soccer is a much better sport to follow. Has its faults but at least can watch a game and not want to kill some due the [censored] umpires and the admin serve up. 

Sorry but if we ever make a World Cup quarter final or beyond soccer will overtake AFL 

As to pick 2 say goodbye but AFL will do a deal to get King to dees for pick 3. Happy with that.

 

 

[olisik 4,060]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Were you demanding the same thing when we got picks 1 & 2 through PP system?

I too am not happy, but we seem to have very short memories

When we got it, it was due to us having won less then 4 games. A pre defined / measurable amount which was in place before the season had started. Not the same in this instance, this is just being made up on the fly. 

[olisik 4,060]

5 minutes ago, Dirts said:

So true. I grew up playing both AFL and ‘soccer’. 

I have since decided that soccer is a much better sport to follow. Has its faults but at least can watch a game and not want to kill some due the [censored] umpires and the admin serve up. 

Sorry but if we ever make a World Cup quarter final or beyond soccer will overtake AFL 

As to pick 2 say goodbye but AFL will do a deal to get King to dees for pick 3. Happy with that.

 

 

Agree, much easier to adjudicate and less grey areas. That’s what kills afl internationally, it’s too grey and people don’t get it. Cricket, soccer and basketball are clear cut and that’s why they are so successful on international scene.

AFL needs to urgently simplify the game or be at risk of dying, can start by removing ‘touched off the boot’ rule when players kick goals. If it goes through just call it a goal, no need to [censored] around with 50 slow mo cameras to still get it wrong.

[whatwhat say what 23,106]

38 minutes ago, deebug said:

When are the AFL going to tell us that gc are going to be given pp?

 

Brownlow night

[Redleg 41,745]

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Were you demanding the same thing when we got picks 1 & 2 through PP system?

I too am not happy, but we seem to have very short memories

It is now discretionary and we were refused PP's many times when we deserved them.

They have more top 10 picks than any club on their list and many young players ready to blossom.

We didn't have past deals where future picks traded are being affected.

Our last pick 1 was just taken from us by a new franchise run by the AFL.

Edited August 18, 2019 by Redleg

[Moonshadow 17,678]

1 hour ago, olisik said:

When we got it, it was due to us having won less then 4 games. A pre defined / measurable amount which was in place before the season had started. Not the same in this instance, this is just being made up on the fly. 

Regardless, did we deserve it any more than GCS do now? No.

I'd argue the less than 5 games rule promoted tanking, which is what we did to get it.

Oops, there's that word....

Edited August 18, 2019 by Moonshadow

[Panamapapers 60]

1 hour ago, olisik said:

When we got it, it was due to us having won less then 4 games. A pre defined / measurable amount which was in place before the season had started. Not the same in this instance, this is just being made up on the fly. 

Ummm...we tanked to get it...that's worse than GC who are actually trying I believe. We never deserved a PP, such is the disgrace of this club 

[spirit of norm smith 16,596]

7 hours ago, Good Lord George said:

Anderson and Rowell are apparently good mates. Wouldn't be surprise if the AFL give them 1 and 2 coz they think it will help keep them up there.

It’s guaranteed.  Afl helping their problem child by keeping the two best mates together 

[Panamapapers 60]

25 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

It’s guaranteed.  Afl helping their problem child by keeping the two best mates together 

Short sighted?

We were offered money and PP by AFL. How is GC any different?

[spirit of norm smith 16,596]

MFC. 2013 - 2 wins 54%. Nil priority picks (7 years out of finals) 

2014 - 4 wins. 68%. Nil priority picks. (8 years out of finals) 

Suns 2018. - 4 wins. 64%   3 priority VFL picks.  Collins   Corbett   Burgess   All played in 2019  40 games between them. 

2019 - 3 wins. 62%. Priority. ???? 

Wow - Suns were given 12 of first 18’picks in 2011 draft plus 10 priority youngsters. Plus an extra salary $$$ cap.  They have blown it. MFC got no sympathy in terms of priority picks for the 2013 and 2014 years because we had “made our own mistakes” 

my eye sight is fine btw

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,720]

9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Were you demanding the same thing when we got picks 1 & 2 through PP system?

I too am not happy, but we seem to have very short memories

What about when GC and BWS came into the comp? We were bent over many a barrell in 2011,12 and 13.

[Pennant St Dee 13,323]

16 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Jeez we're an arrogant lot aren't we. 

We've been around since the dawn of footballing time and it was only 10 years ago that we received a priority pick from the AFL. What's worse? As recently as 2014 we submitted another request for one with the AFL denying it. However, we did recieve pick 2 as compensation for Frawley leaving that year. For Frawley. Let's just take a minute to think about how other clubs felt about that if we're playing this game? 

The AFL bring in two more AFL clubs to expand the game and there are Melbourne supporters on here whining that the Suns might be taking precious pick two away from us. We've been around for how long and still need assistance in almost all facets. We make a prelim and are so arrogant to think it will just happen again the following year. 

We are a nothing club right now and supporters whining about the AFL giving the Gold Coast assistance are completely contradictory, pig-headed and are in total denial of the state of their own club. It beggars belief.

How about we look after our own backyard you peanuts. 

Steve I'm against them receiving a PP  but not because of our benefit, my view is further access to young players will do little they need older bigger bodies, C.O.L.A and no limit on FD spending to become anything resembling a football club 

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,464]

When people are discussing potential list changes the same names are put fwd,

JKH, Stretch, ANB, Spargo, Wagner, Omac etc.

Petracca and Hibberd seem to escape scrutiny. Hibberd turns 30 next year (last year of contract) so would be of no interest to any of the other clubs. The Suns would be chasing others in that age group but in the Luke Hodge mould. 

We lack star power, when we drafted Petracca I was so excited thinking he would become a hybrid of Dangerfield and Robbie Grey. He is yet to deliver on his dominance as a junior and regularly goes missing for periods in games. I personally don’t think he’ll ever become the player we need him to. We are faced with the Watts / Hogan scenario, what have we learnt....We held Watts 1-2 years too long and got minimal return. We got rid off Hogan at exactly the right time and got May in return. Some argued we should got more and whilst this year hasn’t been great for May most were happy we were able to land him when we did. The time to move on Petracca is now, package him up with next years first round pick or trade for a mid to late first round and package that with next years first round pick and go after some real midfield class. Let’s go after Kelly, Cogniglio or Whitfield. Offer up some big money and make something happen. Another year of waiting for Petracca’s to reach his potential doesn’t cut it anymore.

 

[Robbie57 2,022]

16 hours ago, deebug said:

When are the AFL going to tell us that gc are going to be given pp?

 

After they decide which PP they are giving to GWS who are clearly struggling at the moment. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,596]

On 8/17/2019 at 7:50 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Langdon for 2nd round 2019 (circa #21) and swap of 1st rounders in 2020 with Freo. Outside run on the wing  GET HIM IN  

Schoenmakers 25yo who can be picked up as a free agent - 3rd tall or backup for Weid  - Good Eye for the goals  (we need goal kickers)

#2-3 Ash -18yo  instantly walks into wing opposite Langdon  ; big call needed if Rowell was available 

#39 Bergman - 18yo classy youngster from the Dragons    Suits our need to get skilled footballers in  

# 57 - Brodie Newman 18yo  super talent  doesn’t get all the recognition  like an Easton Wood type   Competitive skilled wins the footy 192cm   Allows Salem into a roll in mid if needed

# 75-  will Fordham 23yo  (Frankston VFL) classy skilled midfielder who runs and accumulates OR Matthew Allen - eagles listed but  stars everyweek in wafl (wasted)

upgrade to the list. Dunkley. Lockhart.  CWagner

Gone. 9) Lewis Spargo Keilty T Smith Jkh Maynard Garlett Walker Jwags 

medicals  avberg Jsmith kkolodahjjjjjjji 

 

Resuming transmission on planet earth.