PREGAME: Rd 05 vs St. Kilda

[Kenners 19]

A heap of talk about Brisbane having a chance to come of age and announce themselves as possible contender, the game seems well framed for that opportunity. I wonder if our game frames up the same. Doubt remains from the prelim, saints are still a bogey team (IMO), saints being touted as back on the rise, opportunity to announce that we are still ahead of the saints, our season has well and truly started and we are a contender. Is this week’s game that big for us and will the coaches and players frame it up that way? Thoughts?

[58er 6,819]

7 hours ago, Kenners said:

A heap of talk about Brisbane having a chance to come of age and announce themselves as possible contender, the game seems well framed for that opportunity. I wonder if our game frames up the same. Doubt remains from the prelim, saints are still a bogey team (IMO), saints being touted as back on the rise, opportunity to announce that we are still ahead of the saints, our season has well and truly started and we are a contender. Is this week’s game that big for us and will the coaches and players frame it up that way? Thoughts?

Tis big and if we win Anzac Eve becomes monstrous

[Demonland 73,506]

MARCHING IN by The Oracle

The most embarrassing loss of the 2018 season (perhaps aside from the Preliminary Final) for Melbourne was the one it suffered in Round 15 against lowly St Kilda. The Demons came into the game as a red hot favourite but were embarrassed by the Saints' speed and willingness to take the contest right up to them for virtually the full four quarters. It was a defeat that they were to bemoan for the remainder of the season. Their arrogance in going into the game and taking an opponent lightly was a costly slip up that possibly cost them the double chance in the end. 

The lead up to this year’s meeting could not be more different to the last. This time, it’s the Saints who are the trendsetters and with three wins to date, they are equal league leaders. The Demons, on the other hand, are in deep trouble with a huge injury list and many players struggling to regain their form of 2018. After three consecutive losses to begin the season, their one win came last week against an equally out-of-form Swans, leaving them sitting in sixteenth place on the AFL ladder.

The glimmer of hope for the team was the way it lifted itself up by the bootstraps after trailing the Swans by 22 points halfway through the second term last Thursday night. Up to that point, the team that was the clearance king of 2018 was struggling to take the ball away from the stoppages despite Max Gawn’s usual dominance in the ruck. Suddenly, they were able to get on top in contested possessions and take advantage when inside the forward fifty. Goals flowed - significantly three of them came from one of the co-skippers in Nathan Jones who’s career many had written off just one week earlier.

And if Melbourne can take its advantage in contested possessions through the likes of Clayton Oliver and Angus Brayshaw into this week’s game, it will go a long way towards atoning for its poor start to the season. Against this will be, the challenge of nullifying St. Kilda’s outside speed which has been so damaging so far this year. 

The Demons benefitted last week from the inclusion of Braydon Preuss, who despite his ungainliness, caused headaches for the Swans’ defence. He kicked a couple himself and made the other Demon forwards who had been struggling for goals despite their numerous opportunities, look taller and play better. He was in doubt for this game at the time of writing but, irrespective of whether he plays, it is to be hoped that coach Simon Goodwin has learned his lesson and affords some extra versatility and options in his forward line.

If the Demons have indeed learned their lessons from last year’s game and from the early rounds of this year, then I expect them to come marching in against the Saints and move forward in their process of resurrection.

Melbourne by 15 points.

THE GAME  

Melbourne v St Kilda at the MCG on Saturday 20 April 2019 at 4.35pm  

HEAD TO HEAD  

Overall Melbourne 121 wins St Kilda 92 wins 1 drawn  

At MCG Melbourne 59 wins St Kilda 36 wins   

Past five meetings Melbourne 3 wins St Kilda 2 wins   

The Coaches Goodwin 3 wins Richardson 1 wins   

MEDIA  

TV - Fox Footy Channel Live at 4.30pm  

RADIO - ABC Triple M SEN 3AW  

THE LAST TIME THEY MET   

St Kilda 18.11.119 defeated Melbourne 18.9.117 at the MCG, Round 15, 2018  After an even opening term, St Kilda got the jump on Melbourne with a seven goal second quarter and the Demons were forced to played catch up for the rest of the game. Despite a late surge of goals they fell by two points and recorded their third-straight loss.

MELBOURNE   

B Marty Hore Sam Frost  Neville Jetta 
HB Jordan Lewis  Michael Hibberd  Christian Salem 
C Nathan Jones  Clayton Oliver  James Harmes 
HF Angus Brayshaw  Sam Weideman  Jayden Hunt 
F Tom McDonald  Braydon Preuss  Jake Melksham 
FOLL Max Gawn  Jack Viney  Christian Petracca 
I/C  Bayley Fritsch  Charlie Spargo Corey Wagner  Josh Wagner 
EMG Declan Keilty Jay Lockhart Oscar McDonald Billy Stretch

IN Neville Jetta Jordan Lewis 

OUT  Oscar McDonald (omitted) Billy Stretch (omitted)

ST KILDA

B Jimmy Webster  Nathan Brown  Shane Savage 
HB Callum Wilkie  Josh Battle  Jarryn Geary 
C Blake Acres  Sebastian Ross  Jack Newnes 
HF Jack Billings  Josh Bruce  Matthew Parker 
F Jack Lonie  Tim Membrey  Jade Gresham 
FOLL Rowan Marshall  Jack Steele  Jack Sinclair 
I/C Dean Kent Ben Long Ben Paton Jack Steven
EMG Nick Hind Darragh Joyce      Jonathon Marsh Robbie Young

IN Jarryn Geary Jack Steven 

OUT Hunter Clark (omitted) Daniel McKenzie (concussion)

Injury List - Round 5  

Oscar McDonald (concussion) – available  Neville Jetta (knee) — test  
Jordan Lewis (hamstring) — test 
Jay Lockhart (shoulder) — test 
Braydon Preuss (shoulder) — test 
Kade Kolodjashnij (concussion) – TBA 
Steven May (groin) — 2-4 weeks 
Joel Smith (groin) —  4-6 weeks 
Aaron vandenBerg (foot) — 4-6 weeks 
Mitch Hannan (knee) — 6 weeks 
Jake Lever (knee) — 6 weeks 
Jay Kennedy-Harris (knee) — 8-10 wee ks 
Guy Walker (shoulder) — indefinite  
Aaron Nietschke (knee) — season     

[JV7 2,375]

7 hours ago, Kenners said:

A heap of talk about Brisbane having a chance to come of age and announce themselves as possible contender, the game seems well framed for that opportunity. I wonder if our game frames up the same. Doubt remains from the prelim, saints are still a bogey team (IMO), saints being touted as back on the rise, opportunity to announce that we are still ahead of the saints, our season has well and truly started and we are a contender. Is this week’s game that big for us and will the coaches and players frame it up that way? Thoughts?

In short no. Completely different, Lions playing last years runners up at their first sellout in a decade. Beating Collingwood would be a massive scalp on field & off, particularly given where they are coming from.

Us, well prelim finalists vs a side many tipped to be bottom 4. My view of the saints hasn't change, they've had 3 lucky wins & found out against an average Freo on the road. These games are the worst, win & it's yeah well done only St.Kilda. Lose & all hell breaks lose. So this game is huge for us just to get the 4 points, build some momentum & try to even the W/L ledger up. Should we win Saturday, anzac eve will be the test.

Edited April 17, 2019 by JV7

[PaulRB 6,432]

Since coming into this season seemingly underbaked, we’ve improved each week. 

Our forwards started to gell last week, and our ability to connect across the ground took another step toward the levels we hit late last year. 

Continue on this improvement trajectory and we should have the saints covered. 

[binman 44,562]

17 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Since coming into this season seemingly underbaked, we’ve improved each week. 

Our forwards started to gell last week, and our ability to connect across the ground took another step toward the levels we hit late last year. 

Continue on this improvement trajectory and we should have the saints covered. 

Yep. A big part of that improvement is related to increased fitness.

The 9 day break could not have come at a better time. A combination of being able to recover from the last game, having a block of time to build some fitness post recovery, and lewis and jets back a bit fresh means we will be in our best shape fitness wise this year.

They are coming of a six day break from what was a taxing, physical game. Huge disadvantage. I'd be jacked off if I was a saints fan. Poor scheduling by the AFL but for once it helps us.

[The Stigga 1,096]

Lewis back, will be good to have a Runner out there again.

 

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by The Stigga

[Kenners 19]

1 hour ago, JV7 said:

In short no. Completely different, Lions playing last years runners up at their first sellout in a decade. Beating Collingwood would be a massive scalp on field & off, particularly given where they are coming from.

Us, well prelim finalists vs a side many tipped to be bottom 4. My view of the saints hasn't change, they've had 3 lucky wins & found out against an average Freo on the road. These games are the worst, win & it's yeah well done only St.Kilda. Lose & all hell breaks lose. So this game is huge for us just to get the 4 points, build some momentum & try to even the W/L ledger up. Should we win Saturday, anzac eve will be the test.

Agree with you. We often find ourselves in these positions too. 

[Wells 11 5,467]

16 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

Lewis back, will be good to have a Runner out there again.

 

 

 Someone with half a brain will def help too. He’s got to do the thinking for 3 back there. 

[JV7 2,375]

24 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

Lewis back, will be good to have a Runner out there again.

 

 

Surely we put him on ice for Anzac eve. Tough for anyone backing up on a 4 day break let alone a 33 year old coming off a hammy.

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,276]

47 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

Lewis back, will be good to have a Runner out there again.

 

 

Possibility he returns via the Casey curtain raiser at the G according to Mark Stevens. Then back in the side V's Richmond.

I think the club may have learnt their lesson from rushing back under cooked players such as Viney, Jones, Melksham and KK.

[What 18,810]

32 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Possibility he returns via the Casey curtain raiser at the G according to Mark Stevens. Then back in the side V's Richmond.

 

This would be the smart thing to do.

[binman 44,562]

1 hour ago, The Stigga said:

Lewis back, will be good to have a Runner out there again.

 

 

Lewis is slow as a wet week. Won't help our issue with spread and speed. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, binman said:

Lewis is slow as a wet week. Won't help our issue with spread and speed. 

I think he means someone who can direct the players, yell instructions etc.  Like the runner used to do before the new rules.

[58er 6,819]

7 minutes ago, binman said:

Lewis is slow as a wet week. Won't help our issue with spread and speed. 

Better Lewy out there than not 

Having said that I also reckon keep him for Anzac Eve.

[What 18,810]

20 minutes ago, binman said:

Lewis is slow as a wet week. Won't help our issue with spread and speed. 

Yes he will, as hes one of the smartest players we have and a great field kick.

He can open up the play with one decision.

[Deemania since 56 6,763]

33 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

He can open up the play with one decision

You betcha - his thought can be contagious. 

[Moonshadow 17,678]

I read Dermott Brereton is mentoring the Saints forwards. We should win by 20 goals.

[Diamond_Jim 12,692]

2 hours ago, binman said:

Lewis is slow as a wet week. Won't help our issue with spread and speed. 

Melbourne could certainly do with a wet week as could most of the country. ?

[layzie 34,340]

Yeah I too don't quite get the odds but it's pretty juicy for the Saints. Definitely getting in on that and will gladly pay for a Dees win!

No idea what the changes will be. 

[radar 1,865]

We were favourites marginally in last year final v Eagles

[BrisbaneDemon 1,574]

I am of the opinion we will make a bit of a statement in this game and have an easy win...

If Gawn gives silver service to our mids, good luck with the run on the outside Saints.

 

Dee's by 42

[Wiseblood 24,637]

I'm backing us in for a win.

But then I say that every week.

We will win.

[Kumamoto_Ken 1,531]

Flying down with the family for the week which will get us to this game (fresh off the plane) and the Tiggers match.

MFCSS has me expecting the worst...

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

3 hours ago, 58er said:

Better Lewy out there than not 

Having said that I also reckon keep him for Anzac Eve.

Let's just eat the meal that's in front of us

Edited April 18, 2019 by FlashInThePan