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They say you shouldn’t change a winning combination but I think that the selectors will have to be innovative for the Saints game.

We are under pressure to keep winning because of our poor start and we can’t take the Saints for granted but we also have a 5 day turnaround to the next game on Anzac Eve. 

Expect some interesting selection moves.

 

be interesting to see what happens with preuss and o mac, the latter of who copped concussion

brayshaw copped a knock to his knee, i think it was?

would be great to see some vfl form from garlett and anb

will lockhart's back by right for him to play in the vfl in a couple of days?

sounds like jetta might be touch-and-go for in ten days, but anything can happen in ten days

IN: jetta, lockhart
OUT: spargo, j wagner

B: Jetta - Frost - Fritsch
HB: Salem - O Mac - Hibberd
? Brayshaw - Jones - Harmes
HF: Petracca - T Mac - Hunt
F: Preuss - Weideman - Melksham
Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Viney
I/c: Stretch - Hore - C Wagner - Lockhart
Emerg: Spargo - Kolodjashnij - ANB - Garlett

Unusually quiet this thread. Good signs. 

 

We have a big advantage next week... the Saints are playing on Sunday afternoon,  while we will be coming off a huge break.

 

In - Jetta, Lockhart

Out go two of Stretch,  Spargo, C Wagner or J Wagner

Edited by Petraccattack


OMac has concussion... so I’d say he misses a week. Is May back next week?? 

Lewis will come back in. Mahoney, I think it was him anyway, said he would have played this weekend if it wasn't a Thursday game. With a longer break they might get Jetta back in the side too.

I'd save Steven May for ANZAC Eve. Give him as much time as possible to ensure he is ready to go. 

53 minutes ago, GCDee said:

OMac has concussion... so I’d say he misses a week. Is May back next week?? 

The only incident I can remember was the collision with buddy and he played a fair bit after that, so with the extra break I'd be guessing he'll be ok. Think they'll save may for Anzac Eve even if he is ok, just to save him coming back to a very short turn around

 

In: Lewis, Lockhart, Jetta(hopefully)

Out: Stretch, Spargo, J Wagner (unlucky I thought he showed some good signs last night but Hore was better)

Lewis back frees Salem to move up to the wing like he was playing early in JLT. I'd like to see his ball use going inside 50. Spargo was ok but little more than that. If Lockhart is fit he deserves to play again 

Lewis and Jetta need to come in but I really feel Garlett needs to be given a shot. The outs are difficult though. Probably Stretch,  Josh Wagner and Oscar MacDonald. Lockhart lacks the experience that we need right now in a must win game. Garlett is an ego player who will deliver when you really need him to, on the big stage. 

 

Edited by Thehardtackler


I'd be happy with Lewis for Omac (concussion) and leave it at that. 

Save our weapons for Anzac day eve i.e May and Jetta and to a lesser extent Garlett (hoping to see some form in the VFL weekend). This isn't because I underestimate St Kilda FWIW. 

ANB stays out regardless of casey form for mine. Needs a few good games there to regain his confidence, and I truly hope that happens because when his head is screwed on he is a valuable asset 

 

Spargo offered nothing and was a late in for Lockhart anyway so that is the first charge

I've been a supporter of Oscar for a long time thinking he just needed time, but last night he was diabolical, a witches hat would have been more effective. So for mine any one is an upgrade right now, Petty is the next KPD off the rack give him a few weeks till May is fit as he certainly can't be worse 

17 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Spargo offered nothing and was a late in for Lockhart anyway so that is the first charge

I've been a supporter of Oscar for a long time thinking he just needed time, but last night he was diabolical, a witches hat would have been more effective. So for mine any one is an upgrade right now, Petty is the next KPD off the rack give him a few weeks till May is fit as he certainly can't be worse 

Agree. On Oscar's first 4 weeks Petty will be no worse. I would keep Billy in as he needs a few games strung together,  not being dropped after one,  when he contributed and added some pace. Pretty sure he didn't turn it over last night.

Edited by Redleg

8 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

be interesting to see what happens with preuss and o mac, the latter of who copped concussion

brayshaw copped a knock to his knee, i think it was?

would be great to see some vfl form from garlett and anb

will lockhart's back by right for him to play in the vfl in a couple of days?

sounds like jetta might be touch-and-go for in ten days, but anything can happen in ten days

IN: jetta, lockhart
OUT: spargo, j wagner

B: Jetta - Frost - Fritsch
HB: Salem - O Mac - Hibberd
? Brayshaw - Jones - Harmes
HF: Petracca - T Mac - Hunt
F: Preuss - Weideman - Melksham
Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Viney
I/c: Stretch - Hore - C Wagner - Lockhart
Emerg: Spargo - Kolodjashnij - ANB - Garlett

Spargo stays in.  His pace is desperately needed up forward.

2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

We have a big advantage next week... the Saints are playing on Sunday afternoon,  while we will be coming off a huge break.

 

In - Jetta, Lockhart

Out go two of Stretch,  Spargo, C Wagner or J Wagner

No way Lockhart comes straight back in.  


8 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

brayshaw copped a knock to his knee, i think it was?

 

Well, that's what Brian & Bruce we're saying...

...but looked more like he got the wind knocked out of him if I was to guess.

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

Well, that's what Brian & Bruce we're saying...

...but looked more like he got the wind knocked out of him if I was to guess.

it's always hard to tell when the camerawork and the commentary are bad in unison

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Spargo stays in.  His pace is desperately needed up forward.

I must have been watching a different game - can't tackle unless the opposition player is stationary, won't pick up a player, runs around aimlessly, is slow, on all meaningful stats from last night was last- may one day be OK but in MHO needs a year in the twos to show if he has or has not got the potential the coaches think he has.

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

Well, that's what Brian & Bruce we're saying...

...but looked more like he got the wind knocked out of him if I was to guess.

Did you notice Bruce gushing over the Swans and actually barracking for them?


Jeffy in for some much needed creativity in our forward line replacing Spargo thanks.

Why are people naming Steven May?  He will be out at least a few weeks.

 

1 minute ago, Sargent Shultz said:

I must have been watching a different game - can't tackle unless the opposition player is stationary, won't pick up a player, runs around aimlessly, is slow, on all meaningful stats from last night was last- may one day be OK but in MHO needs a year in the twos to show if he has or has not got the potential the coaches think he has.

 

12 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Spargo stays in.  His pace is desperately needed up forward.

Don't agree with Shultz on all points but we do agree on the main one, Spargo is not quick people seem to always equate small with fast. he isn't slow just average

 

Hindsight or not, Preuss should have been our starting 22 from round 1.

I was wanting it to happen and others were too. 

The way he was deployed last night is exactly what we need, it's just annoying that it's taken until round 4. 

Goodwin played him deep on Aliir and it worked a treat. Aliir murdered us as an intercept player last time we played the Swans at the G. 

Everyone knows we're sketchy with our skills, our entries are not always clean and we have players who have a tendency to rush their kicks. This is why playing a monster deep in the forward-line is important for a team like us. He drags away an important oppo defender, it allows for T-mac to get up the ground and it completely straightens us up. 

As long as our mids continue to assess what's ahead, it gives us so many more options compared to playing Weid and T-Mac inside 50. It's a huge change. 

ANB out of the side was also a very welcome change. He was literally just creating more congestion when he was playing. Usually doing nothing when around the ball and allowing his opponent to be a get out option for when the oppo were winning the ball. 

Spargo is a very smart player with ball in hand even if he's not overly quick. He usually always weighs up his options and makes smart choices with disposal. He stays. 

Trac is improving every game now. Just needs to stay as clean as possible. 

If Hunt continues to take his chances, hit the scoreboard and use the ball in a smart way, he clearly stays because his speed and chase down ability is needed. 

I think the addition of Garlett in this kind of a set-up on a big ground like the G could really help too. If he chases and pressures at Casey this weekend, I think we play him against the Saints. 

Forward-line becomes much more dynamic and unpredictable due to short hit up leads from talls like Weed or T-Mac, going long to a Preuss contest, giving Petracca or Melksham a one-on-one chance (both strong in the air) or if the ball hits the ground we have speed in Hunt, Garlett and Spargo to really pressure. 

I'd like to mention that Petracca's willingness to chase and harass the opposition inside 50 was a highlight last night. He worked extremely hard off the ball. 

Whatever happens, the forward line must stay the same for a while. 

Backline clearly needs to change. Oscar. Frost. Happy to play the Saints without Oscar this week. 

Coincedence that we looked so much better off when he wasn't on the ground? 

St Kilda will be a tough assignment and they exposed us for pace last year as the large expanses of the G. A win of any sorts would be fantastic in the scheme of things.

However, if we managed to win by 5 goals we'd be 2-3 with a percentage of 85%. Last year after round 5 we were 2-3 with a percentage of 88%.

No more than 2 changes.

In - Lewis Jetta

Out - One of the Wagners, O Mac (if concussed) 


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