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I don't know about Garlett.  He doesn't apply enough forward pressure.

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In the past few years, the Saints have really troubled us with outside pace - especially over the back if any of our midfielders or defenders are slow in their two way running. 

Lewis will come back in. Even though he is not the player he was and now he makes some decision errors, he reads the game so well, is often in the right place at the right time, and is a defensive beast which we need. But he does not help the outside pace quandry.

Hunt has been improving each game, but I wonder if he needs to play wing/half back to help with the defensive spread, and limit the easy one over the back? His pace will be important.

Frost's pace was highlighted against Buddy and will be useful against the Saints.

Do we consider Garlett and  if OMac misses due to concussion, do any of the Casey defensive talls possess decent pace?

 

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OMac needs a stint in the 2's for his own good. He is hopelessly out of form and totally bereft of one shred of confidence, and at present, he is a complete liability down back - even his kicking is letting him down. 

 

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I liked the Wagner boys, Hoare and Hunt in their new roles. I would like all four to be given some time to develop synergy within the team. The Wagner boys are tough, fearless and quick. They tackle well which suits our game plan. I know they are blue collar which means they aren't always AFL standard but given time I think they can hold down positions. Hunt spent last year in the VFL developing his defensive side and is our best small forward at the moment, when you need two or even three in your team.

Where that puts some of the others I'm not sure but stick with those four against smaller forward lines for me.

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On 4/12/2019 at 12:19 AM, Dee Zephyr said:

Unusually quiet this thread. Good signs. 

Yeah well I would rather a Big Mac meal in a Melbourne wrapper than O Mac in the team anytime!

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4 hours ago, one_demon said:

I don't know about Garlett.  He doesn't apply enough forward pressure.

If he kicks 3 or more goals HE WILL PLAY!

Billy Stretch again underwhelming!

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On 4/12/2019 at 9:09 AM, Rusty Nails said:

NQR Keilty for Oscar

At least Keilty will have 'a go' repeatedly, closely, quickly and more thoroughly until the clearance is completed on each occasion.

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2 hours ago, deespicable me said:

Where that puts some of the others I'm not sure but stick with those four against smaller forward lines for me.

Very tempting, it surely will produce confidence and form. 

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4 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Hunt has been improving each game, but I wonder if he needs to play wing/half back to help with the defensive spread, and limit the easy one over the back? His pace will be important.

 

Yeah I've been wanting Hunt to be tried on the wing to help our lack of midfield pace.

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Preuss shouldn't play. Keep him fresh for Richmond. Saints speed and spread will trouble us at the MCG.

OUT: Preuss, Omac

IN: May, Lewis

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4 hours ago, deespicable me said:

I liked the Wagner boys, Hoare and Hunt in their new roles. I would like all four to be given some time to develop synergy within the team. The Wagner boys are tough, fearless and quick. They tackle well which suits our game plan. I know they are blue collar which means they aren't always AFL standard but given time I think they can hold down positions. Hunt spent last year in the VFL developing his defensive side and is our best small forward at the moment, when you need two or even three in your team.

Where that puts some of the others I'm not sure but stick with those four against smaller forward lines for me.

Don't fall in love with old mate Wagner just yet. He has more flexibility given we are covered in the key defensive roles, albeit with Omac and Frost. If OMAC doesn't play, Corey may fill his role. Better player in the air, sure, but his early years weren't so flash. Happy to give him a chance.

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14 minutes ago, praha said:

Preuss shouldn't play. Keep him fresh for Richmond. Saints speed and spread will trouble us at the MCG.

OUT: Preuss, Omac

IN: May, Lewis

May won't be right for St Kilda.

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2 hours ago, picket fence said:

If Garlett kicks 3 or more goals HE WILL PLAY!

Billy Stretch again underwhelming!

Well he has ticked off that hurdle. 

If he gets back to his best we will be a far better side. God I hope he is hungry for it

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1 minute ago, martin said:

In: Garlett, Baker, May   Out: Oscar, Spargo, Stretch.

Why would you drop Spargo? Is Baker going to offer more? Deckchairs.

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21 minutes ago, martin said:

In: Garlett, Baker, May   Out: Oscar, Spargo, Stretch.

May is out a few weeks.   Why do people keep naming him in the team!!   🤬

 

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9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nasher, you shouldnt have to explain yourself in regards to Jetta. But i also understand why you had to.. 🤦‍♂️

Jetta is simply locked and loaded in our best 22. He is also our Vice captain and when on song he's one of our best one on one defenders. St Kilda forwards have a mix of small forwards that run through there, Billings Lonie Gresham etc. Gresham is the one i want Jetta locking down on.

You actually should have to question team selections based on players form.

9 hours ago, Nasher said:

 

Jetta was injured, hence the form.

Surely it’s beyond question that a non-injured Jetta plays seniors. I can’t see any sensible scenario where Jetta plays at Casey.

If he was carrying an injury, well then that explains a lot. However the "Beyond question" aspect of team selection needs to be dialled back a touch. Players get old and their abilities start waning. You can expect this to occur for Jetta soon enough. He isn't having as big an impact as he was in 2017 and started last year poorly too. To his credit he had a big 2nd half last year. 

Questioning is fine, people in here do it to Lewis ad nauseum. Questioning, especially if players like Hore, Wagner & Petty make a bigger impact in the seniors as time goes on should be fine. I'm not writing him off, but if he has a poor patch of form in the next month, other players deserve a go too.

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53 minutes ago, praha said:

Why would you drop Spargo? Is Baker going to offer more? Deckchairs.

Spargo did some great 'rover' work against the Swans. Make no mistake about that despite a few fluffs and fumbles in that game. He is showing opportunity teamwork, generally kicking intelligently and well; a few more games and we have Johnny Townsend on our hands, again. Possibly - but I am prepared to watch, analyse his play and wait.

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4 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Spargo did some great 'rover' work against the Swans. Make no mistake about that despite a few fluffs and fumbles in that game. He is showing opportunity teamwork, generally kicking intelligently and well; a few more games and we have Johnny Townsend on our hands, again. Possibly - but I am prepared to watch, analyse his play and wait.

If Spargo becomes John Townsend, ANB will become Greg Parke. It is not happening.

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1 hour ago, praha said:

Why would you drop Spargo? Is Baker going to offer more? Deckchairs.

Baker will offer more than Stretch, Garlett more than Spargo. Some reports suggesting May will be fit. If not, against the Tiges.

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3 hours ago, picket fence said:

If he kicks 3 or more goals HE WILL PLAY!

Billy Stretch again underwhelming!

You might have your wish PF with Jeffy having a decent game today apparantly and kicking 3.

Billy was more a direct replacement for ANB but they might be able to swing Jeffy in anyway and push Spargo up the field to cover Stretch's role (if ommitted).

Hannan would have been the obvious replacement for ANB if fit.

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3 hours ago, one_demon said:

Yeah I've been wanting Hunt to be tried on the wing to help our lack of midfield pace.

On the G i would also feel that is our best option until Hannan returns.  Jeffy then comes in for Stretch and Fritschkrieg gets the other wing.

On the smaller grounds like Marvel and SCG we might be able to get away with rotating say Spargo/Melk/Chunk & Fritchskrieg on the wings allowing us the luxury of Hunt up forward as per the Swans.

Chunk to play a mostly forward role regardless of the ground.  More so when Hannan returns with little time, if any, on a wing.

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Interesting selections this week - Lockhart will also be available. Goodwin doesn’t like changing winning sides so I can’t see much happening. Oscars concussion may provide an opportunity for Petty to come in. I reckon Jetta will need more than a week to get over his knee. Lewis is underdone and probably should have a run at Casey - he will hate that. Like others I can’t se May being ready for a few weeks.

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39 minutes ago, Redleg said:

If Spargo becomes John Townsend, ANB will become Greg Parke. It is not happening.

Nah, ANB already kicks better than Greg Parke, just nowhere near as good at marking.

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32 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

You might have your wish PF with Jeffy having a decent game today apparantly and kicking 3.

Billy was more a direct replacement for ANB but they might be able to swing Jeffy in anyway and push Spargo up the field to cover Stretch's role (if ommitted).

Hannan would have been the obvious replacement for ANB if fit.

No way can Spargo cover Stretch (or ANB), his "engine" is 2-stroke wippa-snippa stuff

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