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41 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

He is class and polish, that's why he'd be huge.

We have zero X-factor in our starting 22.

He has the ability to kick a goal from nothing, the ability to set-up an opportunity for goal that wasn't there.

He is quality and we are absolutely desperate for that forward of the ball.

He hasn't had a single game in his now 6-year career where he's been BOG or at least turned a game on its head (e.g. Daniel Rioli).

I'm all for targeting him, don't get me wrong, as long as it's not the focus of our next off-season. I'd rather see us go after, and justifiably pay more, for the out-of-contract Kelly who oozes "X-factor" "silk" and "class".

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I get your point, but as clubs say, we have to back ourselves to make him happy. We have to create an environment that he is happy. Carlton have shown themselves to be ruthless, both in what they are

Is this the same Jack Martin that begged and pleaded to be a Bomber this time last year? Unless there’s a clear threat that he’d sit out the season, or would be a toxic member of the playing grou

I'll tell you why it's a salary issue, he's reportedly looking for $650-700k per season. What has he done to earn that,  nothing but potential and he's not a ball winning mid or key position play

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1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

He is class and polish, that's why he'd be huge.

We have zero X-factor in our starting 22.

He has the ability to kick a goal from nothing, the ability to set-up an opportunity for goal that wasn't there.

He is quality and we are absolutely desperate for that forward of the ball.

This has become ultra apparent in recent weeks when Jay Lockhart has marked himself as basically our classiest finisher.

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2 hours ago, binman said:

He has what we need.

What...a plan B ?

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I've been hoping we might find a way to get Martin for years.  He's exactly what we need.  He has outside pace, good foot skills and marks far taller than his height.  As an added bonus, he can win contested ball when it's his turn to go.  You can't judge him by his time at the Gold Coast.  Nobody has really shone up there.  But I think he could be a damn good player in the right side. 

Sadly, I'm pretty sure Clarko has been in his ear for a year or more.  I'm betting on him moving to the Hawks as a free agent when his turn comes. 

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I have to ask, though I appreciate sounding like a scratchy 45 going around and round. 

We've had plenty of opportunities to get this type of player, but we went for the hard inside types as that's the style. Would it not require a distinct change in direction for our FD to prioritise this kind of player ?

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2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I have to ask, though I appreciate sounding like a scratchy 45 going around and round. 

We've had plenty of opportunities to get this type of player, but we went for the hard inside types as that's the style. Would it not require a distinct change in direction for our FD to prioritise this kind of player ?

Looking at our drafting last year I think they have seen where we are lacking.  While Sparrow is a bit of a bull, the others are all more in the outside ball-user mold.  I didn't mind the look of young Chandler at Casey this weekend either.  He's got some skills and poise about him, but he's a bit on the small side. 

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2 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

Looking at our drafting last year I think they have seen where we are lacking.  While Sparrow is a bit of a bull, the others are all more in the outside ball-user mold.  I didn't mind the look of young Chandler at Casey this weekend either.  He's got some skills and poise about him, but he's a bit on the small side. 

Alternatively they've been building from the inside out. Now we've got the grunt sorted we can draft the polish. We tried the other way round previously and it was a disaster

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3 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

Looking at our drafting last year I think they have seen where we are lacking.  While Sparrow is a bit of a bull, the others are all more in the outside ball-user mold.  I didn't mind the look of young Chandler at Casey this weekend either.  He's got some skills and poise about him, but he's a bit on the small side. 

 

30 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Alternatively they've been building from the inside out. Now we've got the grunt sorted we can draft the polish. We tried the other way round previously and it was a disaster

Yes to both doing a proper rebuild this time.

 

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2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We don't have to rebuild we just need to add some class/pace.

I think that was 'Pennants' point 'Gonzo'.

Adding class/pace is the final piece of the rebuild that started with Roos.

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16 hours ago, rjay said:

I think that was 'Pennants' point 'Gonzo'.

Adding class/pace is the final piece of the rebuild that started with Roos.

Yes Rjay that's correct

I meant we are taking time to put the pieces together weve got our bulls now the polish

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