Jack Viney and the medical staff...

[Demons1858 1,742]

46 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Wow. To use the usual analogy, I assume you would also agree with this logic:  all dogs are animals; all animals have four legs; therefore all dogs have four legs.

It has been well covered elsewhere that Misson is leaving to travel overseas to accompany his wife who has a new job in Canada.

The findings of the review into our sport science team PJ announced last year haven't been shared with members which is disappointing given we would like to know the outcome before launching into another season. Most agree we have had a spate of foot injuries, reoccurring injuries, examples of poor injury management and deciding when players are match fit and right to play AFL. LDVC what would you expect to happen to the leader of a team that has had a review announced  into their teams concerning performance in a ruthless results based industry? My views is they are respecting his tenure and don't want to pay out his contract. He wisely has seen the writing on the wall and looked at other opportunities with his family. Seems like good timing and all the best to him. He joined us when no one else wanted to

Edited March 25, 2019 by Demons1858

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,687]

14 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

The findings of the review into our sport science team PJ announced last year haven't been shared with members which is disappointing given we would like to know the outcome before launching into another season. Most agree we have had a spate of foot injuries, reoccurring injuries, examples of poor injury management and deciding when players are match fit and right to play AFL. LDVC what would you expect to happen to the leader of a team that has had a review announced  into their teams concerning performance in a ruthless results based industry? My views is they are respecting his tenure and don't want to pay out his contract. He wisely has seen the writing on the wall and looked at other opportunities with his family. Seems like good timing and all the best to him. He joined us when no one else wanted to

Seeing as you asked, I wonder why anyone assumes that the announcement of a "review" must mean that whatever is being reviewed must be problematic? I would expect a well run club (or business or government agency, etc) to conduct ongoing reviews of all aspects of its business including those sections which appear to be running well. To not do so risks (1) inefficient practices, (2) not identifying corruption, (3) ignoring potentially fatal flaws, (4) misdiagnosing problems, (5) failing to operate at the optimal level.

I have no idea whether Dave Misson's position was at any risk. But I do know we made finals in 2018 for the first time in many years, and maybe his work contributed to that result.

And your summation that he "looked at other opportunities with his family" is frankly misogynistic and assumes that his wife only looked at getting a job in Canada because her husband's position was fraught. What nonsense.

[hardtack 10,514]

13 hours ago, A F said:

I know you've never rated him, but just as now, you've never known the ins and outs of our medical team, in order to back up those opinions.

Never mind the fact that he was an integral part of the team that got us as far as the Preliminary finals. Just got to love the “sow’s ear from a silk purse” brigade on here.

[Sir Why You Little 36,955]

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

I am not sure that I will be able to continue with life now in the knowledge that you don"t think that I'm perfect. You do realize that I wrote the song for Mac Davis "It's Hard to be Humble "

Mac Davis, there is a name i haven’t seen in years!

How are the Royalty Cheque’s?

I gather Mac is still in high rotation on spotify these days

[drysdale demon 4,830]

54 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Mac Davis, there is a name i haven’t seen in years!

How are the Royalty Cheque’s?

I gather Mac is still in high rotation on spotify these days

The royalty cheques pay for mine and my family's redlegs membersips and have for the last 38 years

[hemingway 7,615]

3 hours ago, TGR said:

Excuse my snobbery and lack of grace.  I just think that we are entering into an era of keyboard accountability post-Christchurch and Tayla Harris.

Who knows, soon we might have to put our mug-shot in our avatar.

 

 

When I reread your comments this morning, there is nothing that I disagree with. I thought your tone was a bit over the top but again this morning it seems appropriate. 

[daisycutter 29,600]

Jack Viney played on the ball,
Poor Jack had a great fall;
Threescore men and threescore more,
Cannot place Jack Viney as he was before.

Jack Viney lay in a moon-boot,
With all his sinews wrecked in his foot:
Forty Doctors and forty wrights,
Couldn't put Jack Viney to rights!

Jack Viney played again on the ball,
Poor Jack had another great fall;

All the King's horses and all the King's men,
Couldn't put Jack together again.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,687]

37 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

Jack Viney played on the ball,
Poor Jack had a great fall;
Threescore men and threescore more,
Cannot place Jack Viney as he was before.

Jack Viney lay in a moon-boot,
With all his sinews wrecked in his foot:
Forty Doctors and forty wrights,
Couldn't put Jack Viney to rights!

Jack Viney played again on the ball,
Poor Jack had another great fall;

All the King's horses and all the King's men,
Couldn't put Jack together again.

Found your Shift key, I see.

[daisycutter 29,600]

11 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Found your Shift key, I see.

special occasions only ?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,687]

?

15 hours ago, daisycutter said:

special occasions only ?

Actually, I was covering for you. So you don't have to admit to using the Copy-Paste function.

Edited March 26, 2019 by La Dee-vina Comedia

[beelzebub 23,313]

17 hours ago, daisycutter said:

Jack Viney played on the ball,
Poor Jack had a great fall;
Threescore men and threescore more,
Cannot place Jack Viney as he was before.

Jack Viney lay in a moon-boot,
With all his sinews wrecked in his foot:
Forty Doctors and forty wrights,
Couldn't put Jack Viney to rights!

Jack Viney played again on the ball,
Poor Jack had another great fall;

All the King's horses and all the King's men,
Couldn't put Jack together again.

Hey diddle diddle

that Jack in the middle

the bull can't jump,  just fall

The others just laugh

to play this sport

and just run away with the ball

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,687]

Hey, diddle, diddle,

The Cats had a fiddle,

Big Max jumped over [insert name];

Goody did laugh

To see such sport,

And the Dees ran away with the game.

[spalding 1,128]

So has our medical team all moved to West Coast?

WEST Coast goalsneak Willie Rioli has been ruled out of Saturday night's clash with Greater Western Sydney and is facing an indefinite spell on the sidelines as the Eagles continue to investigate his foot issue.  

However, in better news, small forward Jamie Cripps is a chance to make a surprise early return from toe surgery alongside star spearhead Josh Kennedy in his 200th club game. 

Rioli, who booted 28 goals in his debut season, is battling a stress reaction in his foot and didn't train at Subiaco Oval on Tuesday. 

Or maybe foot and toe injuries, such as we have seen with Viney and McDonald, are common in the AFL?

 

[DV8 2,271]

 

Jack was silly,  pushing shytte up hill, to be fit for the season propper
Jack fell down,  his foot was ill,  and now has come a cropper

he's now lost his crown, 'mean-est on ground'

Twas written in the paper,  'sore foot is all',  will miss one round, or then, maybe later.

 

TMC came down, that same worn path

did tumble, as did Jack...

he broke his toe,  heard one did laugh,  No matter ! 

We'll numb dat pain, and keep-him playin'.  No matches will be lost !

Did come a day, when all that pain, was just to much to bear

'bring Pedo' in, I heard 'em say, or maybe go with Frost

both did well, around the ground, and especially the latter.

 

Big Max's gawn down.  I heard 'em frown.. and silence that did follow

Twas [censored] a wake around that ground, with sorrow they did mourn

We'll have him back, by next week !  or he's name not Maxy Gawn.

Alas Ol' chums,  final's had come, an ending O' in Perth, 

The sudden return, all shocked around,  'a thud' back down to Earth'

 

A New day's Yawn,  2019 dawns,  Pre-season was the word, 

Got Max a partner,  'He's tearing it up',   A sharing of the load

Preuss by name,  a big man came, from near Dynan Road

The ruck is sorted, He'll not miss a game !!   "We've got this",   It's ours to keep'. they all were heard to say.

... but some did say,  'lets not astray',  with 23 rounds to go,

'One game at a time's, to slow to keep, now Vander's in the clinic.

Then Jack did waddle, 1st game back, supporters in a muddle

Beware false dawns, as Rnd 2 yawns, the cattery is no picnic

Lookin' to the day,  after afray,  May's wearin' RednBlue,

and KK to the fore, replacing Hore, with Keilty in the thick'o'it

 

Watts all this fiddle da dee,  game One down,  alls a frown

The Cats await in lurch, til Dees do show, down Kardinai Park

This week,  late in March

 

 

[dazzledavey36 54,215]

8 minutes ago, DV8 said:

 

Jack was silly,  pushing shytte up hill, to be fit for the season propper
Jack fell down,  his foot was ill,  and now has come a cropper

he's now lost his crown, 'mean-est on ground'

Twas written in the paper,  'sore foot is all',  will miss one round, or then, maybe later.

 

TMC came down, that same worn path

did tumble, as did Jack...

he broke his toe,  heard one did laugh,  No matter ! 

We'll numb dat pain, and keep-him playin'.  No matches will be lost !

Did come a day, when all that pain, was just to much to bear

'bring Pedo' in, I heard 'em say, or maybe go with Frost

both did well, around the ground, and especially the latter.

 

Big Max's gawn down.  I heard 'em frown.. and silence that did follow

Twas [censored] a wake around that ground, with sorrow they did mourn

We'll have him back, by next week !  or he's name not Maxy Gawn.

Alas Ol' chums,  final's had come, an ending O' in Perth, 

The sudden return, all shocked around,  'a thud' back down to Earth'

 

A New day's Yawn,  2019 dawns,  Pre-season was the word, 

Got Max a partner,  'He's tearing it up',   A sharing of the load

Preuss by name,  a big man came, from near Dynan Road

The ruck is sorted, He'll not miss a game !!   "We've got this",   It's ours to keep'. they all were heard to say.

... but some did say,  'lets not astray',  with 23 rounds to go,

'One game at a time's, to slow to keep, now Vander's in the clinic.

Then Jack did waddle, 1st game back, supporters in a muddle

Beware false dawns, as Rnd 2 yawns, the cattery is no picnic

Lookin' to the day,  after afray,  May's wearin' RednBlue,

and KK to the fore, replacing Hore, with Keilty in the thick'o'it

 

Watts all this fiddle da dee,  game One down,  alls a frown

The Cats await in lurch, til Dees do show, down Kardinai Park

This week,  late in March

 

 

@Moonshadow

[Moonshadow 17,675]

58 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

@Moonshadow

You love to bait Dazzle 

Bloody hell, I don't even understand what most of that means ? Drugs are bad!

Thank [censored] for the ignore function, wish it extended to quoted posts... ?

Edited March 27, 2019 by Moonshadow

[Demons1858 1,742]

On 3/26/2019 at 10:02 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Seeing as you asked, I wonder why anyone assumes that the announcement of a "review" must mean that whatever is being reviewed must be problematic? I would expect a well run club (or business or government agency, etc) to conduct ongoing reviews of all aspects of its business including those sections which appear to be running well. To not do so risks (1) inefficient practices, (2) not identifying corruption, (3) ignoring potentially fatal flaws, (4) misdiagnosing problems, (5) failing to operate at the optimal level.

I have no idea whether Dave Misson's position was at any risk. But I do know we made finals in 2018 for the first time in many years, and maybe his work contributed to that result.

And your summation that he "looked at other opportunities with his family" is frankly misogynistic and assumes that his wife only looked at getting a job in Canada because her husband's position was fraught. What nonsense.

You make references to government, corruption and bring misogynistic. Are we still talking about footy injuries? It was a one off review after a spate of foot and other injuries. When it comes to injuries we are poor at communicating and managing them. Feel free to keep your head in the sand though

[Roger Mellie 3,968]

Jack be nimble

Jack be quick

Jack jump over the effin candlestick FFS

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,687]

11 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

You make references to government, corruption and bring misogynistic. Are we still talking about footy injuries? It was a one off review after a spate of foot and other injuries. When it comes to injuries we are poor at communicating and managing them. Feel free to keep your head in the sand though

You asked me a question. I answered it. I'm sorry if my answer wasn't to your liking. Let's just leave it at that, shall we?

[daisycutter 29,600]

45 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You asked me a question. I answered it. I'm sorry if my answer wasn't to your liking. Let's just leave it at that, shall we?

kudos for spelling "misogynistic" correctly, but 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,687]

44 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

kudos for spelling "misogynistic" correctly, but 

Yes, I should have given credit where it was due. Rude of me.

[Demons1858 1,742]

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You asked me a question. I answered it. I'm sorry if my answer wasn't to your liking. Let's just leave it at that, shall we?

Assuming someone has a misogynist view based on a pretty basic observation is key board warrior stuff. Play the ball 

Edited March 28, 2019 by Demons1858

[TGR 1,367]

On 3/26/2019 at 5:06 PM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Found your Shift key, I see.

May pulls up sore.  Goes off.  Gets assessed.  Allowed to come back on?  Now we know he will miss weeks for the same issue he was assessed for?

a) Why did he go back on?  Medical call?  Player?  Coaching staff?  Medicos would have cleared him surely.

He will miss more than this week.

 

From afar I have always given the benefit o the doubt to the medicos....but....

The benefit is getting smaller; the doubt bigger.

 

One day we will learn the short term pain (rule him out), gives you long term gain (plays round 4).

[Lucifers Hero 39,506]

Viney had his foot iced post Sautrday's game having played for 3 qtrs.  (His game time is being managed; played a bit over 2.5 qtrs vs Port).

There is an interview with Mahoney on club website where it is mentioned Viney wasn't at recovery yesterday.  No reason was given so his absence may not be football related.  Mahoney did say he will be fine to play Friday night. 

Friday is a must win game so I guess he has to play.  But I will be a lot more confident in his durability when he can consistently play 4 qtrs.  

I just hope that in our desperation we don't push it too far and risk him being out for parts of the season.

Edited April 1, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[DubDee 25,532]

Did anyone watch Viney closely on Sat, was he limping?  

excuse my ignorance LH but does playing 3 quarters mean be played 75% game time or sat out a quarter?  if the former I would have thought that is pretty good game time for Viney