Jump to content

Featured Replies

1 hour ago, pineapple dee said:

How long since we had a solid legit full back. Danny Hughes... Ray Biffen 

Steve Smith? Tony Campbell? 

 

I once got a C+ on a maths test and my dad told me to go and get his belt.

 
6 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

Steve Smith? Tony Campbell? 

Jamie Shannahan...


13 hours ago, tiers said:

Please, no more snide comments about Jesse. As supporters, we invested far too much in his ability to score goals when his real talent lay elsewhere. He was an outstanding champion of our club and deserves to be remembered fondly.

For various team management and balance reasons, he was never allowed to reach his full potential. His real talent was up the field as a running CHF where his ability to read the play and get to a contest, win the ball in the air and on the ground and dispose to the best position was second to none for a 193 player.

There was even a post that suggested that he play CHB. He would have excelled in this position and, if the trade had not occurred, it was a viable option.

We should thank Jesse for his contribution and wish him well at the dockers.

 

What????

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years.  If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less.  We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts.

Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket.

The Lever trade impacted this IMO.

 

I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

 

I thought a B would have been sufficient, we traded to strengthen weaknesses with quality in 3 different areas Defence(May), Midfield(Kolo) and Ruck(Pruess) not many teams did that in this years trade.

Yes we had to let something good go (Hogan) to get something good in return(May), if Freo weren't so stingey we would have had pick 11 instead of 23.

If this would have occured i would have rated our trade period an A.

If 2017 and 2018 trade gets Lever, Fritsch, May, Kolo and Pruess land us a premiership in the next 3 years, it would have been well worth it.

Edited by Win4theAges

 
On 10/22/2018 at 12:16 PM, adonski said:

Collingwood ignored their weaknesses and topped up their already strongest area. 

Collingwood desperately wanted May but he chose Melbourne. 

On 10/22/2018 at 11:19 AM, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

How is everyone so confused about the Preuss trade??

We've now got the best number one ruck and one of the best back-up rucks in the comp.....

wallace is an idiot.

Didn't he watch the finals series this year and see how the Eagles unlocked the secret to beat/neutralise 1 big key ruckman (Gawn and Grundy).

Great forward thinking by Mahoney and co with Preuss.

This also guarantees we will be watching Big Max as a 34 year old too running around.


1 hour ago, Bay Riffin said:

Collingwood desperately wanted May but he chose Melbourne. 

Have read that the Pies were his first choice, but knew the chance of them being able to trade for him was minimal at best, we were his second (and better) choice

3 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Have read that the Pies were his first choice, but knew the chance of them being able to trade for him was minimal at best, we were his second (and better) choice

Link to source where you read this please.

C+ is about right. Overpaid for May and got unders for Hogan. Whilst bringing in KK who is fringe. 

12 hours ago, TGR said:

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years.  If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less.  We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts.

Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket.

The Lever trade impacted this IMO.

 

I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

 

Seriously?

We win a flag in the next 5 years with Lever and May making significant contributions and they look like smart trades.  Win more than that and they look like genius.  Don't win any and you have a point.  It's not about winning trade week - expect better of you.


Thread should be on Trade board btw

4 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Seriously?

We win a flag in the next 5 years with Lever and May making significant contributions and they look like smart trades.  Win more than that and they look like genius.  Don't win any and you have a point.  It's not about winning trade week - expect better of you.

you're talking about hypotheticals. At this stage, Lever and May have done nothing for our club. 

43 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

you're talking about hypotheticals. At this stage, Lever and May have done nothing for our club. 

That's the whole point, it's premature to make judgements about individual trades now.

The thing I do make judgements about is trading philosophy.  We trade for outcomes and have a reputation for getting the deal done.  Dodoro and Bell do their teams no favours in the long run IMO.

Play hard ball on Lever.  Maybe May and GC don't have faith in us to get the deal done and lose patience and he ends up elsewhere.

Edited by Fifty-5

8 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

That's the whole point, it's premature to make judgements about individual trades now.

The thing I do make judgements about is trading philosophy.  We trade for outcomes and have a reputation for getting the deal done.  Dodoro and Bell do their teams no favours in the long run IMO.

Play hard ball on Lever.  Maybe May and GC don't have faith in us to get the deal done and lose patience and he ends up elsewhere.

You have to deal what is in front of you. 

Lever and May are important pieces. So we bought them...

if Membership and Sponsorship goes up, the price is paid tenfold, thus irrelevant 

14 hours ago, TGR said:

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years.  If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less.  We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts.

Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket.

The Lever trade impacted this IMO.

 

I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

 

We finished in the top 4 and are one of the favorites for the flag next year. I give you an E-


19 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i give wallet a D+

I rate him a D H

3 hours ago, ManDee said:

We finished in the top 4 and are one of the favorites for the flag next year. I give you an E-

we still have a fair way to go. losing to wce by what really couldve been 130 points plus in the prelim

5 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Sorry mate, have no recollection of where I read it.

Lets face it.
Collingwood have more money, better resources, better facilities, a larger supporter base to play infront of and just played off in a GF.
No surprise to me the perennial basketcase was supposedly 2nd choice.

 
17 hours ago, TGR said:

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years.  If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less.  We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts.

Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket.

The Lever trade impacted this IMO.

 

I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

 

Freo needed Hogan more than we needed Lever, and they needed to protect draft picks more than we did. Why battle to save a future first rounder when your intent wasn't to go to the draft in the first place?

6 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

we still have a fair way to go. losing to wce by what really couldve been 130 points plus in the prelim

Let's say that C is a pass. 9th is half way. Top 3 is top 17%. 

To say D+ is patently showing the writer's bias. I am accepting that TGR and yourself are negative characters, but I am happy with the direction of our club and you naysayers can have your negativity I simply disagree.


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Gold Coast

    The Gold Coast Suns find themselves outside of the top eight for the first time since Round 1 with pressure is mounting on the entire organisation. Their coach Damien Hardwick expressed his frustration at his team’s condition last week by making a middle-finger gesture on television that earned him a fine for his troubles. He showed his desperation by claiming that Fox should pick up the tab.  There’s little doubt the Suns have shown improvement in 2025, and their position on the ladder is influenced to some extent by having played fewer games than their rivals for a playoff role at the end of the season, courtesy of the disruption caused by Cyclone Alfred in March.  However, they are following the same trajectory that hindered the club in past years whenever they appeared to be nearing their potential. As a consequence, that Hardwick gesture should be considered as more than a mere behavioral lapse. It’s a distress signal that does not bode well for the Queenslanders. While the Suns are eager to remain in contention with the top eight, Melbourne faces its own crisis, which is similarly deep-seated but in a much different way. After recovering from a disappointing start to the season and nearing a return to respectability among its peer clubs, the Demons have experienced a decline in status, driven by the fact that while their form has been reasonable (see their performance against the ladder leader in the Kings Birthday match), their conversion in front of goal is poor enough to rank last in the competition. Furthermore, their opponents find them exceptionally easy to score against. As a result, they have effectively eliminated themselves from the finals race and are again positioned to finish in the bottom half of the ladder.

    • 0 replies
  • NON-MFC: Round 15

    As the Demons head into their Bye Round, it's time to turn our attention to the other matches being played. Which teams are you tipping this week? And which results would be most favourable for the Demons if we can manage to turn our season around? Follow all the non-Melbourne games here and join the conversation as the ladder continues to take shape.

    • 276 replies
  • REPORT: Port Adelaide

    Of course, it’s not the backline, you might argue and you would probably be right. It’s the boot studder (do they still have them?), the midfield, the recruiting staff, the forward line, the kicking coach, the Board, the interchange bench, the supporters, the folk at Casey, the head coach and the club psychologist  It’s all of them and all of us for having expectations that were sufficiently high to have believed three weeks ago that a restoration of the Melbourne team to a position where we might still be in contention for a finals berth when the time for the midseason bye arrived. Now let’s look at what happened over the period of time since Melbourne overwhelmed the Sydney Swans at the MCG in late May when it kicked 8.2 to 5.3 in the final quarter (and that was after scoring 3.8 to two straight goals in the second term). 

    • 3 replies
  • CASEY: Essendon

    Casey’s unbeaten run was extended for at least another fortnight after the Demons overran a persistent Essendon line up by 29 points at ETU Stadium in Port Melbourne last night. After conceding the first goal of the evening, Casey went on a scoring spree from about ten minutes in, with five unanswered majors with its fleet of midsized runners headed by the much improved Paddy Cross who kicked two in quick succession and livewire Ricky Mentha who also kicked an early goal. Leading the charge was recruit of the year, Riley Bonner while Bailey Laurie continued his impressive vein of form. With Tom Campbell missing from the lineup, Will Verrall stepped up to the plate demonstrating his improvement under the veteran ruckman’s tutelage. The Demons were looking comfortable for much of the second quarter and held a 25-point lead until the Bombers struck back with two goals in the shadows of half time. On the other side of the main break their revival continued with first three goals of the half. Harry Sharp, who had been quiet scrambled in the Demons’ first score of the third term to bring the margin back to a single point at the 17 minute mark and the game became an arm-wrestle for the remainder of the quarter and into the final moments of the last.

    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: Gold Coast

    The Demons have the Bye next week but then are on the road once again when they come up against the Gold Coast Suns on the Gold Coast in what could be a last ditch effort to salvage their season. Who comes in and who comes out?

      • Haha
      • Like
    • 142 replies
  • PODCAST: Port Adelaide

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 16th June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Dees disappointing loss to the Power.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Like
    • 33 replies