Farewell Jesse Hogan

[RyanD 290]

29 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I'm a bit confused about all the wrist slashing.

Option One:  We trade Hogan to our advantage (as determined by the FD)

Option Two:  We keep Jesse who is an elite talent.

What's the problem?

This ^^

 

So much crap on here, but the reality is that this is the situation. Win/Win for us.

[McQueen 17,864]

2 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Are the Fishburnes any relation to the Cockburns?

Yes but I believe it’s pronounced ‘Fi’ burns. 

[Demonland 72,147]

Just now, Wells 11 said:

I recognise they’reprotest posts as this thread is off the rails. But...the Biscuit humour is wearing thin now. Maybe Stay out of the thread if u don’t like it ? or check in every 20 pages to see if anything has actually happened lol... or idk Start a new biscuit thread? 

I agree. I've let it slide over the weekend when there was nothing happening and granted there still isn't anything happening but if you would like to continue talking biscuits then please take it to the general forum.

[TRIGON 4,783]

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

I agree. I've let it slide over the weekend when there was nothing happening and granted there still isn't anything happening but if you would like to continue talking biscuits then please take it to the general forum.

Fair enough too. Time to get back to the potential Jessie trade. 

[dl4e 5,851]

1 minute ago, TRIGON said:

Fair enough too. Time to get back to the potential Jessie trade. 

I am going to stick my neck out and say there won't be one. I'll probably have it cut off.

[daisycutter 29,613]

1 minute ago, dl4e said:

I am going to stick my neck out and say there won't be one. I'll probably have it cut off.

every chance

but there again....

[McQueen 17,864]

3 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Fair enough too. Time to get back to the potential Jessie trade. 

Agreed.

I'm left wondering just how much Jesse would still want a trade to the Dockers after they've handled the whole process thus far.

Bell has definitely painted a nice shitstain on himself and the FFC.

[SFebes 4,884]

So still going to be ~10 list spots available, only one trade done, hope we don't go to the draft with those late picks for depth. Need to get a hurry along.

[daisycutter 29,613]

Just now, McQueen said:

Agreed.

I'm left wondering just how much Jesse would still want a trade to the Dockers after they've handled the whole process thus far.

Bell has definitely painted a nice shitstain on himself and the FFC.

was wondering exactly the same thing

what we don't really know is how much he is influenced/controlled by his player manager

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

2 minutes ago, SFebes said:

So still going to be ~10 list spots available, only one trade done, hope we don't go to the draft with those late picks for depth. Need to get a hurry along.

At this stage we're only hearing about KK and May, so still a lot of draft picks to be used regardless. It's going to be interesting to see how we do this, I'm thinking there's some delisted free agency action coming up.

[ManDee 7,134]

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

was wondering exactly the same thing

what we don't really know is how much he is influenced/controlled by his player manager

[TRIGON 4,783]

14 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Agreed.

I'm left wondering just how much Jesse would still want a trade to the Dockers after they've handled the whole process thus far.

Bell has definitely painted a nice shitstain on himself and the FFC.

The above, and -  if Jessie's not looking at a premiership (if he was then the least disruptive course would be to sign-on for longer with us) and instead a fresh start after a personally hellish few years, then the anonymity that comes with Queensland footy could hold the answer. 

Both Brisbane and Gold Coast are well placed to provide potentially satisfying trades from the MFC's perspective.

[Marty 419]

19 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Agreed.

I'm left wondering just how much Jesse would still want a trade to the Dockers after they've handled the whole process thus far.

Bell has definitely painted a nice shitstain on himself and the FFC.

On one hand you have Goodwin and Mahoney who stays tight lipped and gets deals done to get the players we chase. Or you get Ross the Boss and Bell do everything I can to make a [censored] out of myself. WA would have to be losing some shine.

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

26 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I agree. I've let it slide over the weekend when there was nothing happening and granted there still isn't anything happening but if you would like to continue talking biscuits then please take it to the general forum.

It's true, this thread was breaking apart, and getting stale.

It's just because we need something to chew on! Even a few crumbs will do...

On this note, did anyone else read Jon Ralph's piece in the Sun? He seemed to be suggesting that Neale is worth more than Pick 5? I hope that sentiment is not shared by Freo.

(All this aside, it must be my sense of humour, but it's funny that we, as, I think, mostly adults, have to be told that if we're going to talk biscuits, we need to take it outside (this thread)).

[Demonland 72,147]

Just now, RedButMostlyBlue said:

It's true, this thread was breaking apart, and getting stale.

It's just because we need something to chew on! Even a few crumbs will do...

On this note, did anyone else read Jon Ralph's piece in the Sun? He seemed to be suggesting that Neale is worth more than Pick 5? I hope that sentiment is not shared by Freo.

(All this aside, it must be my sense of humour, but it's funny that we, as, I think, mostly adults, have to be told that if we're going to talk biscuits, we need to take it outside (this thread)).

I have no inside information but I guarantee you this is the number one thing holding up the trade.

Freo were low balling us on Jesse in the hope that they didn't have to get the Neale trade done to land Jesse.

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, pineapple dee said:

Can I suggest, though,  that it still makes more sense than the NO TS NO BS thread ???

At least this one's not going around and around in circles.

I’ve never allowed myself the “pleasure” of venturing into the thread.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

It says a lot wbout freo and their strategy when pick 5 isnt enough for Neale but pick 6 is too much for Hogan.

As much as May would have been nixe lets just keep hogan and move on

[old dee 23,787]

On SEN this morning Watson said that Freo don't want to make the same mistake they made with Bennell. Hmm interesting comment!!!!!!

 

[Undeeterred 3,123]

2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

On form, he's not worth a first round pick, let alone pick 5. He's not in the top 5 full backs in the league at present. He's been poor-average for the past 1-2 years. Most believe that's due to not wanting to be where he is now, but there's the chance he's just not capable of playing the way he did a few years ago. 

If all we got for the best young key forward in a decade was an average full back and a token pick I'd be very disappointed. 

Maybe he hates being there....

[beelzebub 23,346]

9 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

I’ve never allowed myself the “pleasure” of venturing into the thread.

your loss

[GCDee 3,199]

4 minutes ago, old dee said:

On SEN this morning Watson said that Freo don't want to make the same mistake they made with Bennell. Hmm interesting comment!!!!!!

 

So why chase a guy for 4+ years, bring him to your facilities whilst he is contracted and offer him a multi million dollar deal? Freo are actually pathetic and if they are honestly leaking this stuff they are dragging Jesse's name through the mud, & for what to get him cheaply? 

Unless something had changed between this time last week whilst he was over seas and Jesse has become a leader of the Hells Angels this is just absolute dribble. 

Bell is a complete waste of space in this setting and is clearly so far out of his league, I want nothing more than for this to blow up in his face. 

[olisik 4,060]

1 minute ago, GCDee said:

So why chase a guy for 4+ years, bring him to your facilities whilst he is contracted and offer him a multi million dollar deal? Freo are actually pathetic and if they are honestly leaking this stuff they are dragging Jesse's name through the mud, & for what to get him cheaply? 

Unless something had changed between this time last week whilst he was over seas and Jesse has become a leader of the Hells Angels this is just absolute dribble. 

Bell is a complete waste of space in this setting and is clearly so far out of his league, I want nothing more than for this to blow up in his face. 

There loss, if they dont want to pay, then they dont get him.

 

This is almost like going into a Lambo store with $2000 and complaining that the tyres are not any good and that they should sell it for $2000. Complete time wasters, get out of the shop.

[binman 42,889]

6 minutes ago, old dee said:

On SEN this morning Watson said that Freo don't want to make the same mistake they made with Bennell. Hmm interesting comment!!!!!!

 

If  jessie does has some off field 'issues,' unlike benell, his on field form has not suffered. Which is where my interest begins and ends (with the proviso there would be some issues I would care about)

But I am very suspicious of the rumours.

 

[ManDee 7,134]

I'm starting to think "trade week" should be stretched to beyond two weeks to two months for some clubs and reduced to one day for others all culminating on the same day.  That way we will get the same result but Freo will have a much bigger hotel bill to put in their soft cap. And Melbourne can turn up on the last day and pop through a few quick deals. 

[TRIGON 4,783]

Just now, GCDee said:

So why chase a guy for 4+ years, bring him to your facilities whilst he is contracted and offer him a multi million dollar deal? Freo are actually pathetic and if they are honestly leaking this stuff they are dragging Jesse's name through the mud, & for what to get him cheaply? 

Unless something had changed between this time last week whilst he was over seas and Jesse has become a leader of the Hells Angels this is just absolute dribble. 

Bell is a complete waste of space in this setting and is clearly so far out of his league, I want nothing more than for this to blow up in his face. 

Perhaps Peter Bell is 'the real victim here'... having watched too many episodes of Suits and/or the movie Draft Day - doesn't understand that they're fictional.