Farewell Jesse Hogan

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2 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

King brothers have significant go home factor interstate clubs are aware of and if drafted by an interstate club it will only be one confident of getting both of them to lessen that. Freo would be silly to draft an unproven king brother with go home factor with the same pick that could have locked up jesse hogan, a proven key forward and as you say set up their forward line for the next decade. 

Fremantle also won’t get him cheap next year, it will likely cost them a strong first round pick minimum to get a deal done, and they run the risk of Jesse deciding to stay or Another club like west coast getting involved with Kennedy another year older. 

The strategy you have proposed is full of risks for fremantle who could achieve a better outcome tomorrow if they’d pull their heads out of it and accept our very reasonable trade request 

Yep. Agreed.

We might agree on some things @EnterTheDragon, but not on this one. 

Jesse won't be a Melbourne player come Wednesday evening (no sources, just opinion).

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46 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Will you be MIA for those 12 months and then be reborn like the phoenix (that could be your next user name)  Seems like an unfair bet.

Careful buddy. 

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5 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Yeah, well, I AM Jess Hogan, and all I ever wanted was ..... to darnce!

 

Any good in a forward pocket ?

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1 hour ago, layzie said:

That article is silly. Suggesting that we need to ‘soften our stance’ for it to happen. Freo need to pony up, that’s the story here. 

Yes they do, just like we did for Lever. We wanted our man and got it done early in the trade period without fuss. Freo need to stop wasting everyone’s time. 

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20 hours ago, Nasher said:

Ahh, here we go. The poster who knows eff all during the year, then at trade time, suddenly knows every intimate detail that gets discussed in the FD, right at the moment that you could probably just assemble all the rumours and take a wild stab and get to the same conclusion. Add a dash of “trust me, this is rock solid” and there you have it. 

The only surprising thing is that it’s taken over 300 pages of this thread for him to turn up.

And there we go the usual gnf baggers can't wait to get into him as soon as he posts. Don't know why he bothers.

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1 hour ago, Hogan2014 said:

Both Mahoney & Bell would lose their credibility if they backdown know .. would have no back bone in future trades.. imagine Mahoney accepting pick 11 

All Mahoney wants is to get May and KK to the club. If the Suns agree to pick 11, which they haven't, then he will accept Freo's offer. Otherwise the club is more than happy to keep Jessie. Who cares whether we have received unders and paid overs. Mahoney has achieved his objective like he has in previous years.

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1 hour ago, Neitz the Great said:

Proposed trade:

Melbourne give Hogan <----> Fremantle give picks 5 + 23

Melbourne give pick 5 <----> Adelaide give pick 13 

GC give pick 19 <---> Adelaide give pick 8 

GC give Steven May <------> Melbourne give pick 23 

Fremantle

Get: Hogan

Give: Picks 5 + 23

Melbourne

Get: May, Pick 13.

Give: Hogan

Adelaide 

Get: Picks 5 + 19

Give: Picks 8 + 13

GC

Get: Picks 8 + 23

Give: May + 19

Thoughts on this trade?

My head hurts or we just get  5 and 23 from Freo and give 5 for Hogan and keep 23. 

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1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

My head hurts or we just get  5 and 23 from Freo and give 5 for Hogan and keep 23. 

This is a way to get us May and Pick 13 for Hogan which I think many would regard as a big win

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Much Ado about nothing.

Albeit it is only possibly from my perspective but so much of this is about very little... really.

It's only for many here that the supposed valuation at two first rnd picks matters. What are those 1 and 18 , 9 and 16 ?? There just a means to an end.

I fess up as to not valuing Jesse as high as some. Strangely I would think one 1st and reasonable 2nd. Funny..pretty much the same as....ummm.... Melbourne.

The first rnd value is relative. All related to what you need a pick to do. Our case...to get May.

If that was 15..he's ok at 15...if 11.. he's 11... If 5 is required... he's worth 5 and the 2nd round pick.

That's how all of this works.

My bone of contention is not what Freo suggest so much as their dlcklng around.

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Hats off to Don Bradman... and Tubby of course ?

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2 minutes ago, Neitz the Great said:

This is a way to get us May and Pick 13 for Hogan which I think many would regard as a big win

I missed the pick 13 part 

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7 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Page 334

Hats off to Don Bradman... and Tubby of course ?

That was pure class by Tubby.

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9 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Page 334

Hats off to Don Bradman... and Tubby of course ?

Bugger...I had 333 in the pool

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*applause*

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6 hours ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Fair dinkum, some of you are like desperate lovers living in denial about a girlfriend who’s given them the flick.

So your saying he doesn't say it???

Funny how you demand quotes from others to prove a point, but when the shoes on the other foot you're as defensive as Geoff Boycott on Day 1 of a Test at Lords on a Green top!

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38 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Any good in a forward pocket ?

he was the school pocket billiards champ

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21 hours ago, Nasher said:

Ahh, here we go. The poster who knows eff all during the year, then at trade time, suddenly knows every intimate detail that gets discussed in the FD, right at the moment that you could probably just assemble all the rumours and take a wild stab and get to the same conclusion. Add a dash of “trust me, this is rock solid” and there you have it. 

The only surprising thing is that it’s taken over 300 pages of this thread for him to turn up.

What do you care? There is plenty of speculation on here. SOme of us are happy to read it and make of it what we want.

You sound like..............Peter Bell....

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Are we a chance with this one Jesse trade thread to match all the Jack Watts threads in total, time for some research...

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4 hours ago, ManDee said:

ETD I have seen much of what you have seen, where we differ is the conclusions we come to. Players tour other clubs facilities, sometimes they end up there sometimes they don't. Bruce Lee to Peter Bell that would be a bitter pill everyday you open Demonland. I'm looking forward to it.

 

How [censored] amateur are Freo to let him get “news cammed” coming into the joint?!

I’m not sure we would have been that bad in our worst days with Schwab running things.

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https://www.theurbanlist.com/melbourne/a-list/we-rank-all-the-biscuits-worth-ranking

An article well worth a read ... an interesting diversion from the drivel (not dribble!!) in this thread !! 

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4 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

How [censored] amateur are Freo to let him get “news cammed” coming into the joint?!

I’m not sure we would have been that bad in our worst days with Schwab running things.

How do you know they didn’t do that on purpose?

It put MFC and its supporters offside making us even more fed up with the circus than we were.

Looked more a deliberate tactic to drive price down to me.

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1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Any good in a forward pocket ?

Back pocket 

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1 minute ago, EnterTheDragon said:

How do you know they didn’t do that on purpose?

It put MFC and its supporters offside making us even more fed up with the circus than we were.

Looked more a deliberate tactic to drive price down to me.

You honestly think they would have let him do the media run just to [censored] with Melb?! 

Like Mahoney gives to flying fs if the “fans” are fed up. Not all “fans” are fed up either, I’m pretty relaxed about it. I want him to stay because he is our best fwd. If he doesn’t then I know Mahns and co have it sorted. YOU seem to be reveling in this though don’t you Range Rover.

I think you need some fresh air, go for a walk, hang with the family, stars and the crescent moon are amazing tonight. 

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10 minutes ago, bingers said:

https://www.theurbanlist.com/melbourne/a-list/we-rank-all-the-biscuits-worth-ranking

An article well worth a read ... an interesting diversion from the drivel (not dribble!!) in this thread !! 

What?? The Chocolate Royal is not even rated!!!

who is this idiot writer??

apart from that i was amused...

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2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

What?? The Chocolate Royal is not even rated!!!

Future fourth rounder SWYL.