Farewell Jesse Hogan

[MadAsHell 4,217]

12 minutes ago, Neitz the Great said:

I'm 90% sure Cat B rookies don't count as players on your main 44 man squad

From what I can make of it, once you have a senior list the size of 38, there's a maximum number of rookies you can have, but nothing about minimum. Meaning no reason a squad of 38, 4 & 2 can't work.

http://m.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/about-the-afl

[Demon Disciple 12,537]

2 hours ago, demon-4-life said:

Reckon freo trades 11 to eagles for 18 and another pick. 

Wce trade 11 for Kelly.

freo trades Neale for 5

5 and 18 for hogan

5 for may and kk (hopefully)

 

That's a bit more sensible. Bring in May and KK and go to the draft with 18 (maybe one of the Xavier's Duursma or O'Halloran)

[sue 9,277]

5 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

From what I can make of it, once you have a senior list the size of 38, there's a maximum number of rookies you can have, but nothing about minimum. Meaning no reason a squad of 38, 4 & 2 can't work.

http://m.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/about-the-afl

Isn't there a mid-year trade period this year 2019? Does that allow getting in more players somehow? against future picks or whatever?

Edited October 13, 2018 by sue

[beelzebub 23,392]

2 hours ago, CityDee said:

No way Hogan goes for anything less than 2 first rounders . 

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/fe7eff6b-28f5-41a4-89b9-a41fc3188f01

 

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12 hours ago, Aus in Engerland said:

I agree with the AFL website dudes. Just a ploy. More to play out yet.

The domino in this whole business is Lachie Neale. When that falls, everything else can get done.

cheers josh.

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But we might as well keep Jesse, I think.   As he's not valued over if cockburn.

Jesse to halfback.

 

Belly & Lyon, a pair of half-twits  =  a Full Twit.

... good luck Freo you'll need it.

[Sydee 4,684]

17 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

The party line.

If he was happy to stay he’d have inked a three year extension months ago.

He already has a contract he doesn’t need to sign another one early. I don’t think this in itself is proof he isn’t happy to stay or the FD isn’t happy for him to play next year 

The only players desperate to sign contracts are the ones unsure about their value to their team or other teams - in short if you have currency it is likely in your best interest to not sign early and bargain when your negotiating position is strongest 

I don’t see much evidence of JH initiating this current situation but I do believe he is and will continue to be courted heavily by the idiots abroad - for JH that would be tempting from a $ perspective , flattering , somewhat attractive from a go home point of view and confusing all at the same time - it’s not his fault but at some point it would be in everyone’s interests that the circus moves on 

 

 

[Canplay 635]

Ricky Nixon stating on Twitter that Jesse is damaged goods and Freo have made 110% right call and wont be back....... but won’t say why.   AFL industry loves rumours and innuendo.

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3 minutes ago, Canplay said:

Ricky Nixon stating on Twitter that Jesse is damaged goods and Freo have made 110% right call and wont be back....... but won’t say why.   AFL industry loves rumours and innuendo.

Didn't know you could get internet reception from the sewer.

[Ted Lasso 19,586]

2 minutes ago, Canplay said:

Ricky Nixon stating on Twitter that Jesse is damaged goods and Freo have made 110% right call and wont be back....... but won’t say why.   AFL industry loves rumours and innuendo.

This is all being piggie backed off the same rumours freo tried to spread around.  If he were damaged goods, freo wouldn’t have offered him a truck load of cash, and wouldn’t have offered picks 11 and 20 odd. This is a weird, amateur negotiation tactic and the media are totally misreading it. And it’s pretty annoying they run with this stuff with no basis for it. 

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34 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

and also happy to stay if a deal cannot be reached. You forgot that bit 

The kid lost his Dad and had Testicular Cancer this year. He is allowed to weigh up options. 

This whole scenario portrays the power of the media. They keep hounding until they get what they want - new Prime Minister - AFL coach losing contract, Hogan leaving MFC and on and on and bloody on!

 Keeping Hogan would not be the end of the world. Who says he'll just leave at the end of 2019? So might Oliver, or Gawn or Petracca.No one knows - yet the media hypothesize. Mud-rakers and morons like Sam Maclure.

Replacing Hogan with May would strengthen our backline but would do nothing for the forwards. What if T Mac or Weideman sustains an injury? How would our forward line look then? And Hogan is 4 years younger than May!

At least the backline will see the return of Lever during next season.

At one stage this season commentators were speaking volumes of our 'twin towers' up forward - T Mac and Hogan - and what a huge advantage they gave us over most other teams. How has this changed of late?

To win matches you have to kick lots of goals - we did this very well most weeks. Why change a successful formula?

 

[beelzebub 23,392]

2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

I'm struggling to see the analogy - perhaps you can tease it out for me?

Who is God for a start off?

used to play for the wees poos and cats !!

[Six6Six 1,507]

9 minutes ago, Canplay said:

Ricky Nixon stating on Twitter that Jesse is damaged goods and Freo have made 110% right call and wont be back....... but won’t say why.   AFL industry loves rumours and innuendo.

I would have thought Ricky Nixon was damaged goods

[sue 9,277]

4 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

This is all being piggie backed off the same rumours freo tried to spread around.  If he were damaged goods, freo wouldn’t have offered him a truck load of cash, and wouldn’t have offered picks 11 and 20 odd. This is a weird, amateur negotiation tactic and the media are totally misreading it. And it’s pretty annoying they run with this stuff with no basis for it. 

While it may serve Freo's interest to spread rumours and for Nixox to say:

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There is a lot more to this than people know which unfortunately I can’t say

there are some posters here who are making similar statements.  So either they have been duped or there is something....

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11 minutes ago, Canplay said:

Ricky Nixon stating on Twitter that Jesse is damaged goods and Freo have made 110% right call and wont be back....... but won’t say why.   AFL industry loves rumours and innuendo.

How on earth can Ricky still get a gig in the media?

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4 minutes ago, clark's kick said:

How on earth can Ricky still get a gig in the media?

Twitter isn't media

[Lucifers Hero 40,734]

3 minutes ago, clark's kick said:

How on earth can Ricky still get a gig in the media?

He Doesn't!  His pulpit is twitter!!

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

20 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

If he were damaged goods, freo wouldn’t have offered him a truck load of cash, and wouldn’t have offered picks 11 and 20 odd. 

Did Freo offer him a “truckload of cash”? This has become fact on this forum but may not be true at all. 

We might have to consider that Freo saw something that spooked them during their due diligence process.

Perhaps the nonsensical 11 & future second rounder offer was purely a face saving gesture and they now have zero interest.

The more I think about Bell’s sloppily written statement the more I am inclined to think that’s what’s happened. They’re not bluffing, they’ve gone cold on him. 

Love to know why.

Edited October 13, 2018 by EnterTheDragon

[beelzebub 23,392]

34 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You are guessing. As you have done for days now...

Im guessing...fmd.. How many bloody dots do you need ??

For someone who professes a clue about media ...youre' not showing it.

Dont you KNOW how these things are played out?  You ACTUALLY believe all the public media drivel ?

Clubs ,Players all have their little public announcement soundbites ready.  Sometimes you actually just stay shtum.

COme on SWYL  i know your cleverer than that.

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27 minutes ago, Canplay said:

Ricky Nixon stating on Twitter that Jesse is damaged goods and Freo have made 110% right call and wont be back....... but won’t say why.   AFL industry loves rumours and innuendo.

Probably had a night out with chicken... 

Damaged goods or not the kid can play. Freo can cry about the price all they want.... We welcome him back with open arms if I dosent get done and Freo continue to be shite

Edited October 13, 2018 by Unleash Hell

[sue 9,277]

9 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Did Freo offer him a “truckload of cash”? This has become fact on this forum but may not be true at all. 

We might have to consider that Freo saw something that spooked them during their due diligence process.

Perhaps the nonsensical 11 & future second rounder offer was purely a face saving gesture and they now have zero interest.

The more I think about Bell’s sloppily written statement the more I am inclined to think that’s what’s happened. They’re not bluffing, they’ve gone cold on him. 

Love to know why.

Whatever it is, it is not catastrophic because they still offered something, and if it was catastrophic, MFC would have jumped at it. 

[daisycutter 30,021]

19 minutes ago, Six6Six said:

I would have thought Ricky Nixon was damaged goods

yep, all we need now is for bomba and cuzz to step in with their opinions

[faultydet 7,623]

The worst thing we can look forward to is Jesse Hogan lining up for us next year, so I'm not going to lose any sleep if we don't trade him out this year. 

What I can't figure out is why I'm suddenly wondering where Hogan will fit in for us considering the sudden advancement of Weidemann, and the recruitment of Preuss.

I'm of the belief that we would be a better side with May at full back, than we would with Hogan at CHB.

Hoping I'm wrong.

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

Here are the Nixon tweets.

 

Edited October 13, 2018 by EnterTheDragon

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39 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Didn't know you could get internet reception from the sewer.

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

I wouldn't trust Ricky Nixon to sit the right way on a toilet seat.