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Personally we should do the May deal first if were allowed to use next years 1st rounder. That would really throw a spanner in the works and Freo would be under enormous pressure thinking we have changed tact.

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    2 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

    Personally we should do the May deal first. That would really throw a spanner in the works and Freo would be under enormous pressure thinking we have changed tact.

    With what ?????

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    9 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

    This was brought up by someone earlier on in this mammoth thread. 

    Yeah. We're all popping in at various times due to being in different parts of the world. Stuff will be rehashed between different people. 

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    Just now, Win4theAges said:

    Personally we should do the May deal first. That would really throw a spanner in the works and Freo would be under enormous pressure thinking we have changed tact.

    With what?

    Next year's 1st rounder would have to be expected to be 15-18 (we're equal 2nd Fav for Premiership with Coll/WCE)

    That'll drift a few places with Priority and Compos

    That's not going to get it done I'm afraid 

    So we're waiting for Freo

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    GC won’t take our pick next year for May. No way they accept it. They will just keep him and get the early compensation pick for losing him as a FA

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    1 minute ago, DemonLad5 said:

    GC won’t take our pick next year for May. No way they accept it. They will just keep him and get the early compensation pick for losing him as a FA

    we'll see..

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    5 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    That’s specious reasoning borne out of Mahoney’s inability to explicitly say what he meant by ‘affording’ May. The connotations are that we don’t have the cap space but that is crap; we have been chasing Gaff and Kelly. What we will struggle to do is to ‘afford’ to acquire May with our lack of picks. So the May sitution moving forward really doesn’t mean Hogans’ is too.

    I know that. 

    I posted how we have the sal cap space and how the May/Hogan deals are separate, in the May thread about 30 min ago:

     

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    7 minutes ago, A F said:

    Am I right in saying that the list managers pull up stumps at 3pm each day?

    In which case they do less work than the real estate industry and need to tough it out a little longer in order to get deals done.

    they would all be calling each other after hours anyway.  they 'clock off' at the building at 3pm.

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    41 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

    Would like to hear mahoney answer a question of what will be done in defence if Hogan stays. Do we have a plan b recruit or May next year?

    I am more than happy to hear nothing from Mahoney. 

    Keep Freo guessing and under pressure 

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    see if tyson wants to go to the GCS and put forward next years 1st round draft pick for May and maybe another 2nd rounder. see if that floats. and if Jessie goes and we get a couple of nice early draft picks, then bonus.

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    12 minutes ago, A F said:

    Am I right in saying that the list managers pull up stumps at 3pm each day?

    In which case they do less work than the real estate industry and need to tough it out a little longer in order to get deals done.

    Officially yes, but it goes on basically 24/7 especially at this time of year in one way or another. 

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    I can’t see Brisbane taking a future first round pick. They may as well retain May for next season, they’ll get more in the same draft with the compo pick they’ll receive for him. 

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    13 minutes ago, A F said:

    Am I right in saying that the list managers pull up stumps at 3pm each day?

    In which case they do less work than the real estate industry and need to tough it out a little longer in order to get deals done.

    Apparently its earlier these days

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    3 minutes ago, Deecisive said:

    see if tyson wants to go to the GCS and put forward next years 1st round draft pick for May and maybe another 2nd rounder. see if that floats. and if Jessie goes and we get a couple of nice early draft picks, then bonus.

    Given Frost wouldn't even be first depth with Omac + Lever working just fine this year. Surely Frost could be asked if he wanted to go, given a lack of opportunities with us.

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    3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I can’t see Brisbane taking a future first round pick. They may as well retain May for next season, they’ll get more in the same draft with their compo pick. 

    Oh I don’t know, I think Brisbane would happily accept a future first for May...

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    Tyson can still go to North, and we can then ontrade the pick we get for him to help get May, and could include next years first rounder or it might not.

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    How has the Hogan camp still said nothing after yet another deadline? 

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    15 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I can’t see Brisbane taking a future first round pick. They may as well retain May for next season, they’ll get more in the same draft with the compo pick they’ll receive for him. 

    I wonder whether the GCS position of a trade this year must be approx next years FA comp pick, is being overplayed.  They can get a player(s) now to develop/contribute rather than waste a year with May playing out time.  They have other good leaders: David Swallow and two metre Pete is pretty good value, if they can get him on the park.

    One would think the environment and culture needs to come before draft picks.  Agree a future 1st round won't get it done, but I have a hunch they might give him up for less than their posturing suggests.  A complex trade, camouflaged with swapping of current/future later round picks...

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    24 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

    With what?

    Next year's 1st rounder would have to be expected to be 15-18 (we're equal 2nd Fav for Premiership with Coll/WCE)

    That'll drift a few places with Priority and Compos

    That's not going to get it done I'm afraid 

    So we're waiting for Freo

    Throw in a 2nd rounder, should more than sufficient.

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    1 minute ago, olisik said:

    How has the Hogan camp still said nothing after yet another deadline? 

    The longer the silence, the more I think the deal is agreed to but hinging on the L.Neale agreement. ?

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    2 minutes ago, olisik said:

    How has the Hogan camp still said nothing after yet another deadline? 

    I doubt very much they haven’t said anything it’s just not public yet. I don’t think freo and the dees enter trade negotiations without at least an incredibly strong indication. Trade week is too short to waste time 

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    1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

    Neale won’t be leaving Freo 

    Brisbane footy manager disagrees with you. 

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    7 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    I wonder whether the GCS position of a trade this year must be approx next years FA comp pick, is being overplayed.  They can get a player(s) now to develop/contribute rather than waste a year with May playing out time.  They have other good leaders: David Swallow and two metre Pete is pretty good value, if they can get him on the park.

    One would think the environment and culture needs to come before draft picks.  Agree a future 1st round won't get it done, but I have a hunch they might give him up for less than their posturing suggests.  A complex trade, camouflaged with swapping of current/future later round picks...

    Definitely

    no one will give them pick 1-4 for May which is what they get as compo next year. Remember also that the recipient club pays nothing in the form of draft picks next year. It's just a quirk of the system.

    On the other hand they have a disaffected captain who they don't want hanging around the club.

    Their choice

     

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