Farewell Jesse Hogan

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

27 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

I would. Especially if I was Ross Lyon and staring down another season with Taberner, McCarthy and whichever other no-name hack he’s been running with in that forward line the past few seasons. They are under serious threat of a bottom four finish Freo, which would likely cost the coach his job. They are DESPERATE.

Nowhere have I ever stated that Hogan is no good. He’s a talented young key forward with potential, however he does have his flaws. People on here talk like he’s guaranteed to be a multiple All-Australian , multiple Coleman Medal winning champion of the sport in years to come. He is being talked about like he’s the next Buddy Franklin. It’s bulltish. Living in Dee-nial land.

At 23yo Buddy was winning a flag, kicking a ton and routinely wheeling away from 60m out and thumping sausage rolls through at post height.

Jesse Hogan has achieved nothing in footy yet except winning a Rising Star award and showing plenty of promise, as well as exhibited some worrying defects. A clear eyed view show  that’s all he’s done. 

Freo will pay up the extra top tenner for him  because they have no bloody choice. 

 

You're like ProDee, but only cooler because you have Bruce Lee as your profile pic.

 

Edit* - I have similar thoughts on Jesse and his output to date. 

 

Edited October 7, 2018 by stevethemanjordan

[daisycutter 29,892]

Just now, dl4e said:

So if Hogan had a medical then one would presume he is going but then again maybe mrs fremantle might be unhappy with mr hogans foot.

i wouldn't presume that just because of a medical when he has a known foot injury, a history of back problems and wonky knees

does mean he's willing to listen to an offer, but we knew that

[dl4e 5,851]

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i wouldn't presume that just because of a medical when he has a known foot injury, a history of back problems and wonky knees

does mean he's willing to listen to an offer, but we knew that

Yes that is true but I am convinced there is something going on we don't know about. Maybe it is a physical thing and we are happy for him to go. Don't know.

[picket fence 17,978]

6 hours ago, Redleg said:

The jugglers follow the clowns into the ring.

Cleaning out the garage today and what did I find???

My long thought Lost MARX BROTHERS BOX SET all movies.

Trade week will feature all the above and more in Glorious Black and White!

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

22 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Of course that’s the public line.

What was your older username on here? It’s on the tip of my tongue. 

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

6 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

What was your older username on here? It’s on the tip of my tongue. 

 

Range Rover or E25? Or were they the same person?

I've never understood why people create multiple accounts. 

A bit weird.

[Adam The God 30,614]

37 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

 

Range Rover or E25? Or were they the same person?

I've never understood why people create multiple accounts. 

A bit weird.

Because they get banned.

I liked RR, E25 and Stuie, but I find myself at odds with him/them on this particular occasion.

Hogan hasn't matched Buddy's output yet, but he's only 23 and has much better output to date than many superstar forwards of the past. And as we all know, talls take much longer to hit their straps.

I'd back Jesse to win a Coleman one day (at the very least), but at the same time, we have more pressing needs than one gun forward. With our defence being a pressing need, we have Tommy Mac who has stepped into the elite category and a developing Weideman. If we want to win a flag next year or the year after, IMO, we have to bite the bullet and fix our defence as a matter of priority over keeping Hogan.

If Jesse wanted to stay, then we'd find another way of getting May, but as this opportunity has presented itself via Jesse's refusal to properly extend his contract, I'm happy to get the maximum compensation out of him - which we will get and even Drags agrees on this point.

Edited October 7, 2018 by A F

[sue 9,195]

10 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Yes that is true but I am convinced there is something going on we don't know about. Maybe it is a physical thing and we are happy for him to go. Don't know.

I don't think we have to look for mysterious ailments/attitudes.  Surely the proposition that we want a long term commitment for stability knowing he might leave at the end of next year, and we can get more for him now than then, and possible plug immediate holes elsewhere in the team, is sufficient explanation of why all this is happening and driven by MFC.  

[Wiseblood 24,637]

31 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

 

You're like ProDee, but only cooler because you have Bruce Lee as your profile pic.

 

Edit* - I have similar thoughts on Jesse and his output to date. 

 

[Marty 419]

34 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Of course that’s the public line.

That's not the public line, the club has said very little, but oblivious from your statement you know more than everyone.

[beelzebub 23,390]

2 minutes ago, sue said:

I don't think we have to look for mysterious ailments/attitudes.  Surely the proposition that we want a long term commitment for stability knowing he might leave at the end of next year, and we can get more for him now than then, and possible plug immediate holes elsewhere in the team, is sufficient explanation of why all this is happening and driven by MFC.  

That flies.

[Damo 3,437]

Im pretty sure there are many usernames (and email addresses) used by the one poster. I find it funny when they forget which one they should use.

It should be banned.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

1 hour ago, Unleash Hell said:

Surely we've gone too far down the track for this not to happen now.

184 pages of posts. The FD won't waste all our efforts to date. Have faith.

[old55 23,836]

2 minutes ago, sue said:

I don't think we have to look for mysterious ailments/attitudes.  Surely the proposition that we want a long term commitment for stability knowing he might leave at the end of next year, and we can get more for him now than then, and possible plug immediate holes elsewhere in the team, is sufficient explanation of why all this is happening and driven by MFC.  

Agree, the FD will have projected the salary cap forward and figured out we'll lose a gun like GWS have.

They see we have a surplus of KPF and an opportunity to proactively trade now with a club who has currency and is a suitable destination for our player.

We're staying ahead of the curve.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

41 minutes ago, dl4e said:

So if Hogan had a medical then one would presume he is going but then again maybe mrs fremantle might be unhappy with mr hogans foot.

That's nothing, wait til she sees his cockburn.

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

4 minutes ago, deeology said:

That's not the public line, the club has said very little, but oblivious from your statement you know more than everyone.

Mahoney did say “we’d want the highest ever value in trade for Hogan” or words to that effect, did he not? 

That’s actually saying quite a lot. Read between the lines and you’ll see a whole game of one upmanship being played out here before the two clubs even shake hands over the trade table.

[chookrat 4,268]

8 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Mahoney did say “we’d want the highest ever value in trade for Hogan” or words to that effect, did he not? 

That’s actually saying quite a lot. Read between the lines and you’ll see a whole game of one upmanship being played out here before the two clubs even shake hands over the trade table.

A couple of years ago Roos said noone has ever done what Jessie did in winning the rising star the way he did, and then Mahoney says this. Very Trump like in their language, love it. 

[Marty 419]

13 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Mahoney did say “we’d want the highest ever value in trade for Hogan” or words to that effect, did he not? 

That’s actually saying quite a lot. Read between the lines and you’ll see a whole game of one upmanship being played out here before the two clubs even shake hands over the trade table.

That's Mahoney posturing to get value in the trade, not the reason behind the trade. As in "Hogan wants to go home or Melb giving him a push because he won't sign another contract"

[Redleg 41,952]

47 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Cleaning out the garage today and what did I find???

My long thought Lost MARX BROTHERS BOX SET all movies.

Trade week will feature all the above and more in Glorious Black and White!

Enjoy the Marx Brothers and remember when xmas comes around " that there is no sanity clause/santa claus".

[DeeZee 7,445]

A guy on SEN, just said he spoke to Hogan’s best mate over in Perth and he told him Jesse is definitely coming home and it’s just a matter of this year or next.

Take it for what it’s worth.

Edited October 7, 2018 by DeeZee

[Redleg 41,952]

3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

A guy on SEN, just said he spoke to Hogan’s best mate over in Perth and he told him Jesse is definitely coming home and it’s just a matter of this year or next.

Take it for what it’s worth.

It seems quite worthwhile, as clearly the Dees are operating under that belief.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

Probably stating the obvious here but if we can't get his long term commitment now then I'd be more than happy to trade him, granted we get a nice return package.

No need for a Hogan-WA fiasco throughout the entire 2019

[Adam The God 30,614]

30 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Probably stating the obvious here but if we can't get his long term commitment now then I'd be more than happy to trade him, granted we get a nice return package.

No need for a Hogan-WA fiasco throughout the entire 2019

This seems to be the general consensus now between Melbourne supporters.

[Superunknown 4,241]

39 minutes ago, Damo said:

Im pretty sure there are many usernames (and email addresses) used by the one poster. I find it funny when they forget which one they should use.

It should be banned.

Righto Pinochet 

[Superunknown 4,241]

55 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

 

Range Rover or E25? Or were they the same person?

I've never understood why people create multiple accounts. 

A bit weird.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's weird.