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24 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

You must work for them, this collective minds are a joke nothing good came from them, they are what they call quacks, frauds pretending to be psychologist when none of them are  qualified.

You’re not a fan of what they’ve achieved at Adelaide? 

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28 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Compare and contrast...

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One lot in charge of worlds biggest power ( at least this week )

The other lot have issues

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12 hours ago, Mickey said:

It is only getting worse as more details come out.  

According to this article, Collective Minds were ditched early in the season, which led to some wins, before Pyke brought them back the week before the Alice Springs game...

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/afl/crows-camp-crisis-pyke-ignored-players-wishes-with-collective-mind-20180827-p5003j.html

Addressing the psychology of players is essential. Do it in a militaristic way such as the Crows did and we did is fraught with danger. It is not the way to go about it.

Employing a mindfulness course sellout like the Tigers did and focusing on positive psychology is how it needs to be managed.

I note our players revolted and told the FD they didn't want to do the camp again and the FD listened and cancelled it. We were laughed at and seen as weak (both players and coaches) yet ended up finishing 5th. The Crows players revolted and Collective Minds were scrapped leading to their best form for the season. They were then reinstated leading to their worst loss (in years?) against us and ended up dropping to 12th after runners up last year.

Beware the fugazi.

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Where are all those morons saying we should have gone on the camp? Those saying it thought the player where weak, maybe the players knew something, maybe if Don listen to his players like Goodwin did they might have had a better season.

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28 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

Where are all those morons saying we should have gone on the camp? Those saying it thought the player where weak, maybe the players knew something, maybe if Don listen to his players like Goodwin did they might have had a better season.

I don't think anyone wanted us to go on a fake macho camp run by would-be Rambos who've watched too many Schwarzenegger and Steven Seagal movies, and end up injured physically or psychologically.

The issue was always the way the players went behind the club's back. Indicated a rift in the club which had the potential to Adelaide our season.

Adelaide lived out precisely the season we feared we might wear because of the rift.

Fortunately we appear to have overcome that and amazingly enough, our recent on-field success is the mental breakthrough we needed, not midnight hazings while naked in blackface.

No more camps and no more rifts.

Go Demons!

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1 minute ago, don't make me angry said:

Where are all those morons saying we should have gone on the camp? Those saying it thought the player where weak, maybe the players knew something, maybe if Don listen to his players like Goodwin did they might have had a better season.

 

18 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

I don't think anyone wanted us to go on a fake macho camp run by would-be Rambos who've watched too many Schwarzenegger and Steven Seagal movies, and end up injured physically or psychologically.

The issue was always the way the players went behind the club's back. Indicated a rift in the club which had the potential to Adelaide our season.

Adelaide lived out precisely the season we feared we might wear because of the rift.

Fortunately we appear to have overcome that and amazingly enough, our recent on-field success is the mental breakthrough we needed, not midnight hazings while naked in blackface.

No more camps and no more rifts.

Go Demons!

No that's wrong many said the player should just do what the club tells them to do, but those saying  that will just pretend they said nothing. 

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19 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Background: A 'cult-like’ pre-season camp debacle left senior Adelaide Crows players distressed

Entitled the ‘Mankind Project’ and run by Collective Minds, players were asked to complete emotionally upsetting questionnaires, as well as a variety of tasks that sources say also had at least one assistant coach questioning the merits of the mental elements of the camp.

Now read on ...

My (very) weird weekend with the naked woodland warriors who travel to remote England to 'reclaim their masculinity'

I have signed up to the ManKind Project, an all-male group boasting 1,700 UK members that aims to release men's 'inner warrior' and reclaim their masculinity.

Sounds like the kind of bollocks that Gavin McInness and the Proud Boys would do. In their case, the participants are mostly coveted in Cheeto dust and sporting fedoras and anime t-shirts.

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6 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

 

No that's wrong many said the player should just do what the club tells them to do, but those saying  that will just pretend they said nothing. 

The players went behind the leaders' backs and behind the coaches backs and went to the AFLPA. That is the only issue.

 

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1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

The players went behind the leaders' backs and behind the coaches backs and went to the AFLPA. That is the only issue.

 

They got the result they wanted, so it’s a non issue. Always was. 

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3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

They can certainly stand the stand, but they can't walk the walk

looks like an audition for godzilla's bride

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Neck minnit ...

Break out into

Can't Stop The Music https://g.co/kgs/JPGcgk

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42 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

They got the result they wanted, so it’s a non issue. Always was. 

The players got the result they wanted? You might be happy with that but it spelled 'issues' for me. What are the leaders of the club there for if not to deal with this sort of thing?

It's like Gysberts refusing to run a 3km time trial because its too hot....

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2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The players got the result they wanted? You might be happy with that but it spelled 'issues' for me. What are the leaders of the club there for if not to deal with this sort of thing?

It's like Gysberts refusing to run a 3km time trial because its too hot....

Were the 'issues' with the coaches or the players in your view?  Coaches unapproachable or players very naughty boys?

Whatever, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding at the moment looks very tasty.   So even if it was an issue, it is a non-issue now as DA stated.

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11 minutes ago, sue said:

Were the 'issues' with the coaches or the players in your view?  Coaches unapproachable or players very naughty boys?

Whatever, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding at the moment looks very tasty.   So even if it was an issue, it is a non-issue now as DA stated.

certainly a non issue now, but it was a potential red flag at the time 

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50 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

They can certainly stand the stand, but they can't walk the walk

looks like an audition for godzilla's bride

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_ZZg6mgMFBssNG0nKiVQ

Does anyone know the reason why they are standing like that?

That cant be a coincidence.  So weird.

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