Match Preview and Team Selection - Round 22

[Demonland 67,012]

JESSE WHO? by The Oracle

The news that Jesse Hogan is out of contention to play with the Demons until 2019 after suffering a foot injury during their nine-point loss to the Swans at the MCG last Sunday might have sent feelings of shock and aware through the community of Demon supporters but I’m not overly concerned about the fact that the club’s key forward will be sidelined for the rest of the season.

The reason why is that Melbourne seems to produce its best wins without Hogan in the team. There were the big breakthrough wins over Geelong and Hawthorn in 2015 and 2016 respectively and last year, it overcame top eight clubs Adelaide and the West Coast Eagles, both times away from home. 

That is not to say that the team won’t feel the loss of its leading goal kicker of the season but the impact of his absence does not necessarily portend the doom and gloom that some of the pundits are predicting.

Last week against the Sydney Swans, Hogan played with his injury for at least three quarters. As early as in the second quarter, he was visibly limping and in hindsight, the team performance might have benefited from him being declared injured and not to return to the playing field. Given that he was clearly unable to perform at his best, this might well have made the difference in a game where the Demons’ inability to find the goals played a significant role in their failure to bring home the four points. 

The fundamental fact remains that the club leads the competition in contested possessions and centre clearances which have contributed to it also leading the way in inside 50s, marks inside 50 and scoring. Melbourne has also performed better away from the MCG this year than it has done at home and, whilst it has its injury woes, so does West Coast which barely managed the win last week against a tiring Port Adelaide that finished the game off with barely a whimper.

This game is evenly poised and the absence of a key forward on either side is not going to make the difference.

THE GAME

West Coast v Melbourne at Optus Stadium Saturday 19 August 2018 at 3.20pm.

HEAD TO HEAD

Overall West Coast 33 wins Melbourne 16 wins

At Domain Stadium West Coast 15 wins Melbourne 6 wins

Past five meetings West Coast 4 wins Melbourne 1 win

The Coaches Simpson 0 wins Goodwin 1 win

MEDIA

TV - Channel 7, Fox Sports 3, Live at 3.00pm

RADIO - Triple M 3AW ABC ABC Grandstand

THE LAST TIME THEY MET

Melbourne 15.9.99 defeated West Coast 14.12.96 in Round 14, 2017 at Domain Stadium

In a tense, close game Melbourne looked gone midway through the last quarter but it launched a successful come back and capped it off with an unlikely victory thanks to Tom McDonald’s goal square gymnastics. His  five-goals for the night helped  break a nine-game losing streak against the Eagles.

THE TEAMS  

WEST COAST EAGLES

B: Shannon Hurn, Tom Barrass, Brad Sheppard 
HB: Thomas Cole, Jeremy McGovern, Lewis Jetta 
? Chris Masten, Elliot Yeo, Jamie Cripps 
HF: Mark Hutchings, Jack Darling, Mark LeCras 
F: Willie Rioli, Nathan Vardy, Brendon Ah Chee 
Foll: Scott Lycett, Jack Redden, Luke Shuey 
I/C: Liam Duggan, Liam Ryan, Dom Sheed, Daniel Venables
Emg: Matthew Allen, Jackson Nelson, Francis Watson, Jake Waterman

No change

MELBOURNE 

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Jordan Lewis
HB: Christian Salem, Sam Frost, James Harmes
? Alex Neal-Bullen, Clayton Oliver, Angus Brayshaw
HF: Charlie Spargo, Sam Weideman, Aaron vandenBerg
F: Michael Hibberd, Tom McDonald, Dom Tyson
Foll: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Christian Petracca
I/C: Bayley Fritsch, Mitch Hannan, Dean Kent, Jake Melksham
Emg: Jeff Garlett, Jay Kennedy Harris, Cameron Pedersen, Josh Wagner

In: Mitch Hannan, Michael Hibberd, Dean Kent, Jake Melksham, Sam Weideman

Out: Jeff Garlett (omitted), Jesse Hogan (foot), Jayden Hunt (ankle), Jay Kennedy Harris (omitted), Cameron Pedersen (omitted) 

The moment of truth is about to arrive for the Melbourne Football Club. 

There has been a cloud hanging over the heads of its players and coaching group for almost twelve months since its last gasp elimination from last year’s AFL finals series after it capitulated meekly to Collingwood in the first quarter of the last round of the season.

Ironically, it was the West Coast Eagles that “stole” Melbourne’s place in the finals with their 29-point win over Adelaide in Perth delivering them a narrow lead on percentage over the Demons. This week’s game will be played on a different arena in the same city but for fans of the club it looks as yet another installment in their recurring nightmare. 

The Eagles would appear to have the upper hand given that they have home ground advantage and the statistical abnormality of the “noise of affirmation” from the umpires which demonstrates that they have what amounts to a one player advantage whenever they play in their state. 

Against that is the fact that they are missing some of their top line stars in Nic Naitanui, Josh Kennedy and Andrew Gaff. Some say that those players make up three of their best five players - I maintain they’re actually three of their best three (their best four if you count the noise of affirmation as a player).

Many commentators say that the fact that they are still second on the AFL ladder proves that the Eagles have the resilience and the ability to defy the odds. The argument goes on to describe as a case in point,  the way the Eagles produced a monumental win at their last start against the Power when Jeremy McGovern scored after the final siren to put his side ahead for the first time. 

My take on that game is that it was always there to be won against a hobbled opposition that ran out of steam because of injury and an inability to rest and rotate players in the final term. 

It could be said that the Demons messed up a similar opportunity against the Swans last week but for their wastefulness, but they also had their problems with injury - Jesse Hogan was limping around as early as the second quarter, Jayden Hunt went off with an ankle and Angus Brayshaw and Neville Jetta missed valuable time getting treatment for ailments during the game, the latter who was dominant in the first quarter with 10 possessions, was off in that patch when the Swans booted about four goals and retook the momentum of the game in the second quarter. The Demons also have three of their top five players out this week as well with the the absence of Jack Viney, Jake Lever and Hogan.

So who really does have the upper hand?

I think it’s Melbourne which still has the best ruckman, the stronger midfield as proven by its record over the year at clearances, and the recast side particularly with the return of Michael Hibberd and Jake Melksham to add to the team’s solidity, puts it ahead of the Eagles who will sorely miss their trio of outs far more than the Demons will miss theirs. 

Their good record in the absence of Hogan is what swings the ultimate result for me.

Melbourne by 7 points.

[WERRIDEE 5,256]

The toughest test in football, I predict that the dees will win by 5 points.

 

B: Lewis, Frost, Jetta

HB: Hibberd, O.McDonald, Salem

C : Fritsch, Oliver, Jones

HF: Petracca, T.McDonald, Neal-Bullen

F: Garlett, Weideman, Melksham

FOLL: Gawn, Brayshaw, Harmes

IC: Kent, Hannan, Vandenberg, Tyson

senior emergency: Kennedy Harris

[Jaded No More 60,460]

I'm not sure how or why, but I have lost a lot of interest in this season following last week's loss. Maybe it's because I know for sure that no matter what happens in the last two matches, we are no real threat of winning anything of importance this year. 

My interest will probably be restored if we win this week, but I still went and booked a work trip for the day after the GF because I know the only hangover I'll be suffering will be from watching yet another grand final without Melbourne in it. 

[dl4e 5,729]

Win this week so next week won't be a living hell. This match is there for us to win. Take it demons.

[—coach— 3,475]

12 hours ago, Demonland said:

THE LAST TIME THEY MET

Melbourne 15.9.99 defeated West Coast 14.12.96 in Round 14, 2017 at Domain Stadium

Just a question, was last years game at Subiaco or the new Perth stadium?

[jnrmac 19,521]

West Coast are the best side for converting inside 50s. We are the 4th worst side for defending them.

Plus they usually get at least 12 free kicks more than us. Who can forget the 23 frees to 2 at half time a few years back.....

Will be interesting and if we win we will have earned it.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Dees to win a thriller, finals therefore assured and we don't have to sweat through another Round 23 game.

[DubDee 22,196]

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

I'm not sure how or why, but I have lost a lot of interest in this season following last week's loss. Maybe it's because I know for sure that no matter what happens in the last two matches, we are no real threat of winning anything of importance this year. 

My interest will probably be restored if we win this week, but I still went and booked a work trip for the day after the GF because I know the only hangover I'll be suffering will be from watching yet another grand final without Melbourne in it. 

I'm the same Jaded.  I think its coz we thought we would finally rise to the occasion and beat the swans after so many chokes and then we choked again.   so so flat

I don't know if I am going to watch the game.  maybe the first 5 mins to see if we turn up

[CityDee 738]

Its our first game at this ground .

hopefully the ( so the brother in law says ) mcg like demensions hold us in good stead . 

May the footy gods be ours !!! 

We are a win away from September and a correction away from a period of serious success. 

[Demon3 2,541]

We cant carry Weideman, T Mac,  Frost, Oscar  Gawn and Vandenberg in the one team, against a side that has one tall forward. Vandenberg kicked 3 last week which was a good effort, but if the coaches have the balls, they will leave him out. 

[SFebes 4,757]

If we don't make finals you can all blame me. After a salubriously delicious long lunch and many frothies one Saturday a few months back I booked a finals package including the GF. Since then we have had a bad run in form and injuries. ( I actually do feel responsible!) 

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,683]

It's going to be 24 and sunny in Perth on Sunday?

Will that be too hot for us?

[Demon17 4,772]

38 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Dees to win a thriller, finals therefore assured and we don't have to sweat through another Round 23 game.

That's assuming the Pies beat power, and tiges beat bombers tomorrow and Saturday - then we can sweat the final game in comfort.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,683]

5 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

We cant carry Weideman, T Mac,  Frost, Oscar  Gawn and Vandenberg in the one team, against a side that has one tall forward. 

Is he even a certainty to come back in though?

[SFebes 4,757]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It's going to be 24 and sunny in Perth on Sunday?

Will that be too hot for us?

Nah. We are Darwin tough and all that travel and training up there will hold us in great stead.........

[Willmoy1947 3,874]

Phew, and i was going into this game with no expectations and looking forward to my imminent demise with an expectant heart attack to follow after next week. Happiness is a warm gun baby, and everyone is so positive........

[Demon3 2,541]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is he even a certainty to come back in though?

nah not sure mate to be honest, he may not and that might be fine, more of just philosophical thought, i think we looked slow again last week, but you always look slow when you dont have the ball.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

12 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

That's assuming the Pies beat power, and tiges beat bombers tomorrow and Saturday - then we can sweat the final game in comfort.

Mate, I can't go into the weekend thinking any different.  I've got to back the Dees to get it done!

[Neil Crompton 4,995]

Like Jaded, i’m not feeling the usual pre-match anxiety that normally follows the Thursday chat. I think deep down I have almost accepted that we have blown it for this year, so the expectation for the last 2 games is not so high. If we do the improbable then I will be over the moon. I may well feel different on game day, but I almost prefer this current state of mind. It’s so much easier on the old ticker.

On reflection we are certainly a better side than last year. While extremely disappointed we have stumbled this year, the fact that we have, simply shows we are not yet ready for the big dance. We’ve effectively had 5 years of progressive improvement. No one should be disappointed in that. Maybe the rebuild has not been as quick as some would have liked, but while we are not yet the real deal, I don’t think we are too far from it.

In this age of instant gratification, having patience is not an easy emotion to embrace. As someone who sat on the wing and watched as our back pocket player snapped the winning goal in the 64 grand final, I know what having patience means. But in all those intervening years I have never felt more confident in a playing group as I am in this one. So i’ll enjoy the rest of this year, whatever the results of the next 2 games, while knowing that next year, 2019, will be ours.

Go Dees.

 

[McQueen 17,864]

9 hours ago, —coach— said:

Just a question, was last years game at Subiaco or the new Perth stadium?

Subiaco.

This will be the first time we’ve played at the new Perth (Optus) stadium at Burswood.

[—coach— 3,475]

2 hours ago, CityDee said:

Its our first game at this ground .

hopefully the ( so the brother in law says ) mcg like demensions hold us in good stead . 

May the footy gods be ours !!! 

We are a win away from September and a correction away from a period of serious success. 

It’s 11m narrower and 5m longer

[GCDee 3,111]

The AFL will make sure ESS, Norf & Geeling win this week and Port, Dees & Sydney lose to make viewing interesting for the final round.

Bookmark it

[Clintosaurus 6,969]

1 minute ago, GCDee said:

The AFL will make sure ESS, Norf & Geeling win this week and Port, Dees & Sydney lose to make viewing interesting for the final round.

Bookmark it

Richmond resting half their team smells a lot like that. There is 2.5 finals spots up for grabs and Gil would like this to be the case next week. A few of the Head Office favourites will be locked away this week (Collingwood, Hawthorn, GWS) and they would very much like Geelong and Essendon to get there.

[dl4e 5,729]

11 minutes ago, GCDee said:

The AFL will make sure ESS, Norf & Geeling win this week and Port, Dees & Sydney lose to make viewing interesting for the final round.

Bookmark it

You can be sure they will try and get the druggies into september. The more I think about it the umpires are going to be a real problem over there.

[deebug 1,754]

10 minutes ago, dl4e said:

You can be sure they will try and get the druggies into september. The more I think about it the umpires are going to be a real problem over there.

They are a real problem here as well.