Forest Demon 4,681 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) It took me until half way through Sunday's game, but I have finally accepted we are not going to do any damage this year. Hopefully we can sneak into finals, get a final or 2 of experience and then get everyone back fit and firing for next year. Edited August 14, 2018 by Forest Demon 5 Quote
_DeeConstructivist_ 9 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Don't go too hard on Hoges. He has talent. Just doesn't mind a sook every now and then. (see early Jack Riewoldt). We have to get better at crisis moments. Flick a switch when we are in danger that finds a new level, not drops down to sleep mode. Cats, Hawks, Tiges all won flags because they got good at wartime moments, and finding a way to get a job done. I guess that's the kind of thing you learn at boot camp. Quote
Die Hard Demon 1,224 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Report suggests they got the injury early, won't require surgery and expect him to be back for the 2019 season .. So realistically he will only miss 2 more games. 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,472 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Jesse hasn’t been 100% for weeks. TMac owns the 50 metre arc now i feel very sorry for Hogan, but maybe the Fwd line will function better now. Can’t carry injured players. 2 Quote
drdrake 3,203 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Nasher said: So many experts on here. I’ve seen everything blamed in this thread from Misson to the club Doctor to Hogan himself to the training ground surface to not resting him against Gold Coast - all claimed as if indisputable fact. If I jumped up the ladder of inference in my job the way you lot do I’d have been sacked years ago. Nasher, something is causing this, stress fractures in feet are rare but we seem to have a number of these, we have 3 out now. To me it is foot wear, surface and training loads that cause these types of injuries. Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Well, this season is done. Not like we were gonna win a flag anyway. But injuries have destroyed us. 1 Quote
chook fowler 19,783 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, layzie said: Whoa dude! Not just jumping the gun here you're jumping the missile launcher! There is absolutely nothing in our form line to suggest we can win either of the next 2. Delighted to be proven wrong. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Seriously...is Goschs the common denominator ? Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, chook fowler said: There is absolutely nothing in our form line to suggest we can win either of the next 2. Delighted to be proven wrong. No I'm with you there. My comment was to the original poster who claimed Hogan was done for the season before any announcements had been made, which unfortunately now we know to be the case 1 Quote
chook fowler 19,783 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, layzie said: No I'm with you there. My comment was to the original poster who claimed Hogan was done for the season before any announcements had been made, which unfortunately now we know to be the case Just now, layzie said: No I'm with you there. My comment was to the original poster who claimed Hogan was done for the season before any announcements had been made, which unfortunately now we know to be the case I think our big opportunity was on Sunday. Not being able to beat Sydney on the G with Buddy being contained and them being 2 down on the bench was a killer. Can’t see us recovering from there. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,181 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 54 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said: it's important to get games into Weid, but Pederson IMO will give us more output at the moment Yep he was great on the weekend, with his 10 possies and 4 turnovers and nearly getting Jesse killed, with an easy pass which set up Mark of the Year to his opponent. It was a similar game to his other one earlier in the year. 5 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 It is extremely depressing and mentally exhausting supporting this club. Not to mention financially draining. Sigh. 2 1 Quote
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, beelzebub said: Seriously...is Goschs the common denominator ? This has me thinking, bb...I really think it might be So many players go down with feet problems in the AFL, is it time to think outside the box and be creative about preaseason? What about two weeks' hard running in the northern hemisphere? Grounds that are safe, but have plenty of give in them? Then, on return, preseason focus is on structures, skills and playing out scenarios I think I'm warming to my own idea 1 Quote
premiers in my lifetime? 30 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 do all these (club wide) foot issues share a common match or training boot brand? Quote
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Redleg said: Yep he was great on the weekend, with his 10 possies and 4 turnovers and nearly getting Jesse killed, with an easy pass which set up Mark of the Year to his opponent. It was a similar game to his other one earlier in the year. Heeney owes Pedo half a 4x4 HiLux No Pedo....not ever. A Casey medal beckons Quote
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jaded said: It is extremely depressing and mentally exhausting supporting this club. Not to mention financially draining. Sigh. But! What a journey! Quote
Redleg 42,181 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, premiers in my lifetime? said: do all these (club wide) foot issues share a common match or training boot brand? They do share the same training ground, not that I know that is the cause. Interestingly however, we are looking to move. Quote
—coach— 3,496 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, chook fowler said: I think our big opportunity was on Sunday. Not being able to beat Sydney on the G with Buddy being contained and them being 2 down on the bench was a killer. Can’t see us recovering from there. Agree Sydney are the weakest team we play in the last 3, but reckon this is the game we are most likely to win. We play better everywhere else to the G because the grounds are narrower and in the case of Perth Stadium also shorter. Quote
Redleg 42,181 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, —coach— said: Agree Sydney are the weakest team we play in the last 3, but reckon this is the game we are most likely to win. We play better everywhere else to the G because the grounds are narrower and in the case of Perth Stadium also shorter. Actually Perth ground 4 metres longer, but no big deal. Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, drdrake said: Nasher, something is causing this, stress fractures in feet are rare but we seem to have a number of these, we have 3 out now. To me it is foot wear, surface and training loads that cause these types of injuries. Yes, I understand the concern over the pattern of these injuries. It’s a worry and no doubt there’s some common root cause. It’s the second half of your post that I’m talking about - where you’ve arrived at the common root cause without any additional analysis other than the problem statement. It’s an absurd logic jump. Quote
jnrmac 20,384 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Redleg said: Yep he was great on the weekend, with his 10 possies and 4 turnovers and nearly getting Jesse killed, with an easy pass which set up Mark of the Year to his opponent. It was a similar game to his other one earlier in the year. You forgot the 3 times he was outmarked by Heeney... 1 Quote
Redleg 42,181 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jnrmac said: You forgot the 3 times he was outmarked by Heeney... Yeah but Heeney is much bigger than Pedo, oh wait a minute. We clearly went in with one lumbering player too many. Oh and also one skilless player and one sh-t scared player. Edited August 14, 2018 by Redleg Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, drysdale demon said: If you can't work that out you must be pretty thick. I'm thick. Now we've got pleasantries out of the way, I'm very politely inquiring why? Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 This hurts, but it's not season ending. Weideman may get his chance here, or we throw Pedersen forward if Kennedy doesn't play. We won over there last season without him and we also had Gawn just returning from a long lay off, while they were pretty much full strength at the time. If we get both Hibberd and Melksham back then it off sets the loss a little and we are still every chance of knocking them off. Hopefully Hoges can recuperate now and get himself ready for a big tilt in 2019. 1 1 Quote
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