Jump to content

Who do we realistically target for a trade?

Dee1987
Dee1987
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

1 hour ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

Coniglio is a free agent and would be a big upgrade on Tyson.  I could see him being a good fit for Goodwin's style. 

Jack Martin is contracted until the end of next year, but I'd love us to make a play for him.  He'd be a great fit swinging between wing and HF.  Has pace, marks well above his head and can win contested ball when he needs to. 

I also wouldn't mind us sounding out Daniel Rich.  He's a good solid player with an exceptional boot and we are desperate for good footskills. 

I wouldn't mind having a crack at Rich this year.

 

... but save our pennies for 2019__  I'd like a red hot crack at Lachie Whitfield...  he is the one we all want. 

Forget Gaff.  

Spend Spend Spend on Lachie.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     

    I did not realise that in the case of a restricted free agent if the "old" club matches the new clubs offer and thus forces a trade the old club effectively gives up the compensation pick.

    Could mean WCE don't match our Gaff offer assuming we make one.

    https://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-02/lynch-to-tigers-a-done-deal-says-one-list-boss

    "The Suns have the salary cap space to match any offer for the restricted free agent and could do so in a bid to force a trade. But they might opt not to given, on current ladder position, they will receive pick No.3 in the NAB AFL Draft if they let Lynch walk. " 

  • Quote
    2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    I did not realise that in the case of a restricted free agent if the "old" club matches the new clubs offer and thus forces a trade the old club effectively gives up the compensation pick.

    Could mean WCE don't match our Gaff offer assuming we make one.

    https://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-02/lynch-to-tigers-a-done-deal-says-one-list-boss

    "The Suns have the salary cap space to match any offer for the restricted free agent and could do so in a bid to force a trade. But they might opt not to given, on current ladder position, they will receive pick No.3 in the NAB AFL Draft if they let Lynch walk. " 

    This is the point King was making on 360 during the week. He can’t understand the difference between ‘restricted’ and ‘ unrestricted’ for the same reasons you mention DJ. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    14 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    I did not realise that in the case of a restricted free agent if the "old" club matches the new clubs offer and thus forces a trade the old club effectively gives up the compensation pick.

    Could mean WCE don't match our Gaff offer assuming we make one.

    https://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-02/lynch-to-tigers-a-done-deal-says-one-list-boss

    "The Suns have the salary cap space to match any offer for the restricted free agent and could do so in a bid to force a trade. But they might opt not to given, on current ladder position, they will receive pick No.3 in the NAB AFL Draft if they let Lynch walk. " 

    It's the reason why Adelaide didn't accept the compensation for Danger and made a trade with Geelong instead. The Hawks elected to take the compo from Buddy (pick 19) becauce had they matched and Sydney then not traded then they would have been left with his massive salary and their team would have been pulled apart earlier.

    If we made an offer for Gaff, then unless WCE know we can be traded with they'll take the compo pick.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    On 7/27/2018 at 12:58 PM, daisycutter said:

    i wonder if weitering is worth chasing as a kp defender ? i'm sure with a better structure around him he could recapture his debut year form. is still only 20 

    Might be worthwhile - we need an extra real defender and he could be blooded to our game and intent.

  • Quote

    1 hour ago, Red and Blue realist said:

    It's the reason why Adelaide didn't accept the compensation for Danger and made a trade with Geelong instead. The Hawks elected to take the compo from Buddy (pick 19) becauce had they matched and Sydney then not traded then they would have been left with his massive salary and their team would have been pulled apart earlier.

    If we made an offer for Gaff, then unless WCE know we can be traded with they'll take the compo pick.

    I think Gaff is an unrestricted free agent, so they don’t have the option to match 

  • Quote
    5 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

    I think Gaff is an unrestricted free agent, so they don’t have the option to match 

    He is a restricted free agent

    Edited by Demon Disciple

  • Quote
    •  
    1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

    Might be worthwhile - we need an extra real defender and he could be blooded to our game and intent.

    I'm not in the camp that says we need an extra KPD but even if I was could you please tell me how we get him and the reasons Carlton would trade him?  The thread title refers to "realistic".

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    6 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

    I'm not in the camp that says we need an extra KPD but even if I was could you please tell me how we get him and the reasons Carlton would trade him?  The thread title refers to "realistic".

    An extremely good question BB. Like you I am waiting for an answer.

  • Quote

    I wouldn't mind having a crack at Daniel Menzel. Knows how to kick a goal.

  • Quote
    3 minutes ago, Philthy said:

    I wouldn't mind having a crack at Daniel Menzel. Knows how to kick a goal.

    only against us it seems

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    • Sad 1
    15 minutes ago, Philthy said:

    I wouldn't mind having a crack at Daniel Menzel. Knows how to kick a goal.

    His nickname at Geelong is blister, pops up when the hard works done. 

    No offence but he’s exactly the type of player we should stay away from. He can find the goals, all too inconsistently though. 

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    3 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

    This is the point King was making on 360 during the week. He can’t understand the difference between ‘restricted’ and ‘ unrestricted’ for the same reasons you mention DJ. 

    The difference is you can't match the offer for an unrestricted FA and force a trade.

    In Lynch's case it probably doesn't matter because GC will finish low and their compensation pick after their first rounder - say pick 3 will be at around trade market value.

    However in Gaff's case it does matter because WC's compensation pick after is likely to be late teens and well below trade market value so they might take the option to match and force a trade at market value.

    If the AFL want to differentiate the RFA and UFA categories further they could remove compensation for UFA.

    http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/free-agency

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    I’ll be disappointed if we aren’t looking at Darcy Moore!

  • Quote

    The attraction to some players is that they come free, other than inflated salary. In the Gaff scenario we don’t have first round picks to trade and the players they would want are the ones we want to keep. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    Andrew gaff has to be a priority and to be totally honest I still think we are in the box seat. I think we’d have the cap room to offer a good deal. And we are a promising team for the short and long term who he grew up supporting. I can’t see north offering drastically more than what we could. 

    Aaron hall is another I think has the attributes we need and wouldn’t cost much to get. 

    I suspect the curve ball could be Jesse hogan. I’m sure the club will ask if his intention is to stay on and if not we may look to more him on a year early given we have some cover up forward now. Obviously I think and hope he will stay but if he was set on leaving he’d get us a pretty good package in return 

  • Quote
    1 hour ago, old dee said:

    An extremely good question BB. Like you I am waiting for an answer.

    Any player is a realistic acquisition given the correct incentives, that need not be purely financial. 

  • Quote

    12 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    Andrew gaff has to be a priority and to be totally honest I still think we are in the box seat. I think we’d have the cap room to offer a good deal. And we are a promising team for the short and long term who he grew up supporting. I can’t see north offering drastically more than what we could. 

    Aaron hall is another I think has the attributes we need and wouldn’t cost much to get. 

    I suspect the curve ball could be Jesse hogan. I’m sure the club will ask if his intention is to stay on and if not we may look to more him on a year early given we have some cover up forward now. Obviously I think and hope he will stay but if he was set on leaving he’d get us a pretty good package in return 

    not gonna happen

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    9 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    not gonna happen

    I agree, just in the event Jesse told them he wasn’t open to discussing an extension because he wants to go back to Perth. I suspect he will stay and will be signed on before round 5 next year 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    3 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    5849201B-201E-4DB5-9A8C-9043D0B46F84.jpeg.c8f4a26c3112e2995d1c71641e9cc284.jpeg

    Who’s the looker on the left?! 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     
    1 minute ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

    Who’s the looker on the left?! 

    Some Pommy bird in a nice little black and white striped number.

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Jay Clark has repeated the rumour that we are into Aaron Hall. Not sure if he got it from here or not.

  • Quote

    • Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • PREVIEW: Hawthorn

      Melbourne and Hawthorn who face off against each other this week have more in common than having once almost merged and about to wear a blue jumper with a red v triangle and an embroidered picture of a bird on the front. They also share the MCG as their main home ground, their supporters are associated with the leafy suburbs of Melbourne and in recent times, James Frawley graced the colours of both teams. Even more recently, both have bounced back from disastrous five game losing streaks to start off a season. Of course, the Hawks turned their bounce into a successful leap from the bottom of the ladder into a finals appearance, making it to the semifinals in 2024 and this year, they’re riding high in third place on the AFL table. The Demons are just three games into their 2025 bounce back, and are yet to climb their way out of the bottom four although they are sitting a game and percentage out of the top eight. However, with the current sportsbet odds of $3.90 to win this week’s encounter, it seems a forlorn hope that their upward progression will continue much longer.

        • Thumb Down
        • Clap
        • Thanks
      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Harvey Langford Interview

      On Wednesday I'll be interviewing the Melbourne Football Club's first pick in the 2024 National Draft and pick number 6 overall Harvey Langford. If you have any questions you want asked let me know. I will release the interview on Wednesday afternoon.

        • Clap
        • Love
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 28 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: West Coast

      On a night of counting, Melbourne captain Max Gawn made sure that his contribution counted. He was at his best and superb in the the ruck from the very start of the election night game against the West Coast Eagles at Optus Stadium, but after watching his dominance of the first quarter and a half of the clash evaporate into nothing as the Eagles booted four goals in the last ten minutes of the opening half, he turned the game on its head, with a ruckman’s masterclass in the second half.  No superlatives would be sufficient to describe the enormity of the skipper’s performance starting with his 47 hit outs, a career-high 35 possessions (22 of them contested), nine clearances, 12 score involvements and, after messing up an attempt or two, finally capping off one of the greatest rucking performances of all time, with a goal of own in the final quarter not long after he delivered a right angled pass into the arms of Daniel Turner who also goaled from a pocket (will we ever know if the pass is what was intended). That was enough to overturn a 12 point deficit after the Eagles scored the first goal of the second half into a 29 point lead at the last break and a winning final quarter (at last) for the Demons who decided not to rest their champion ruckman at the end this time around. 

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Hawthorn

      The Demons return to the MCG to take on the High Flying Hawks on Saturday Afternoon. Hawthorn will be aiming to consolidate a position in the Top 4 whilst the Dees will be looking to take a scalp and make it four wins in a row. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
      • 253 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: West Coast

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 5th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we analyse the Demons 3rd win row for the season against the Eagles.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 25 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • POSTGAME: West Coast

      Following a disastrous 0–5 start to the season, the Demons have now made it three wins in a row, cruising past a lacklustre West Coast side on their own turf. Skipper Max Gawn was once again at his dominant best, delivering another ruck masterclass to lead the way.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 215 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All